Eddie solo shows and crowd yelling

DeBarr

First off, I think Ed does a pretty good job of tactfully handling the obnoxious screaming fans at these shows. But it is a major problem. I think some of the problem is that Ed engages the crowd and even encourages responses at various times throughout the show, and many people are not mature enough to handle that. Then Ed gets annoyed (along with most everyone else) when those who can't handle that opportunity, and become a distraction to the whole show and experience. I would think he would know what is going to happen.

I guess my question is: How should this problem best be handled? Should Ed come out and clearly lay the rules from the start, or would that risk turning the many idiots in the crowd against him, and make it worse?

Or, should they send out a venue rep prior to to Ed taking the stage to say "If you are screaming at the artist you will be removed, and we will enforce that"? In the way that such behavior would not be tolerated at 99% of the other performances that take place in these smaller performing arts center venues.

foodboy

tell ed although he may feel he does not wish to hurt their feelings he should tell them to shut the hell up and tell the people who are sitting next to them to tell them to shut the fuck up. i have been to those kind of shows and it is horrible for every one. it is extremely selfish. problem is lots of these people are loaded to begin with so i think constantly screaming out should get an ejection. no one who is really there to actually hear the music would mind. we would all give a good riddance to them and smile as they leave. applause and cheering in the right places is okay the rest is not.

dasvidana

having security remove the overly inebriated would also help.

Dr. Delight

Seems like Tulsa made an ass out of themselves, huh?

curly

everyone's should be entitled to get one or 2 lil shout outs...they paid to get in like every1 else...
but if same person keeps it up and its obviously not entertaining...an usher/security should have the right to go over and shut him up...or put him in the back lobby/ concorses...

PJ-Cubs

curly wrote:

everyone's should be entitled to get one or 2 lil shout outs...they paid to get in like every1 else...
but if same person keeps it up and its obviously not entertaining...an usher/security should have the right to go over and shut him up...or put him in the back lobby/ concorses...

If every one of the 3000 people at the show each did a shout-out or two, that would be a lot of crowd yelling over 2 1/2 hours.

I would prefer if people would just be quiet and enjoy the show.

Abe Froman

After last night I'm definitely in the "shut the fuck up and let these amazing artists perform!" group.
Very distracting during Glens set especially. So fucking rude. I just don't understand people's need for attention. (No matter how drunk you are. No excuse! I love to drink at shows and have no problem being respectful!)

Kathi

I don't know why people feel the need to shout stupid stuff...looking back at the Euro solo shows this summer, I definitely enjoyed Manchester the least, even though the setlist was great, because the crowd was rude and shouty. If you don't care about Glen playing, just stay in a bar nearby instead of ruining it for everyone else.
Best audiences were definitely in Amsterdam...very quiet, everyone was in for Glen already, very respectful in general. Maybe it is indeed the pot making the difference.

Suziemay

Ejector seats controlled by Ed

It does seem to get out of hand at Ed's shows, not sure why because it was hardly an issue at Chris Cornell or Ben Harper at Carnegie Hall. I mean, there were yellers, but nothing disrespectful and they were generally in between songs. The most cringeworthy one for me was at one of the 2010 Beacon shows when someone yelled "PLAY GUITAR" at Ed. People seem to have more of a sense of entitlement when it comes to Ed/PJ, probably because they have invested so much in them. I think Ed should say something upfront and when someone gets out of hand, the people around should feel free to eject said trouble maker.

At the Bowery Chris Cornell show, there was some good natured yelling in between songs which Chris engaged in. I support these yellers 100%. Then there was the chick that kept on yelling "PLAY BLACK RAIN NOW" when Chris was singing Thunder Road acoustic. LOVED the way he handled it (see around 1:17): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PyBQf3C-_A

High Fidelity 2000

I think the problem is that Ed tries to make the shows such a casual, playing in your living room kind of vibe, that people seem to actually think he is playing in their living room and they deserve to engage in the conversation more than necessary. :roll: I think it is super cool that Ed lets his guard down so much and chats for 5-10 minutes at a time between songs sometimes... but some of these people just don't know how to control themselves.

I'll admit, on Nov. 6, I was one of the people in the crowd shouting out "OBAMA WON!" before Ed had announced it... we were just excited after getting a text from someone keeping us up to date on the results and I figured Ed would stop and announce it (he actually went one more song before getting it "officially" and telling the crowd)... and then when he was asking "what do you want to hear" I shouted out for Picture in a Frame (geniuses in the crowd were asking for Footsteps and Jeremy, when Ed picked them out to be "electoral representatives" for their section). But these fanviews I've been reading about people walking up to the stage to ask to sing Hunger Strike (which, any one should realize, Ed does not even play guitar on), and just shouting out really stupid stuff constantly... it's just ridiculous.

I think he needs to start the show off with an announcement of some kind. I saw Bruce on his solo tour in the 90s and after the first 1 or 2 songs he said "In this setting, I'd appreciate if you don't whoop and holler during the songs... I've actually built up quite a good deal of confidence over the years, so I'll make it through ok if you're just quiet." Something like that. People need to be told to listen and if prompted, make a request... and then everyone can get up to the front and take pictures and rock out for the last encore.

Vitalogensia

I'm actually traveling over 700 miles to Memphis to hear what songs the crowd wants played. They tend to have better ideas than Ed.

curly

sorry,...i miss spoke/typed....i meant the few whom seem to HAVE to yell out or say something...
Also, its still rock and roll...even your most expierenced alcohol drinkers will have 1 or 2 too many...
And Ed's a drinker himself, so i think he's a lil more tolerant...
a few here and there...it's always going to be expected...
but i agree with most ya'll on here...
Get the ejection seats ready....specially the "freebird!!" dipshit

PJ-Cubs wrote:

curly wrote:

everyone's should be entitled to get one or 2 lil shout outs...they paid to get in like every1 else...
but if same person keeps it up and its obviously not entertaining...an usher/security should have the right to go over and shut him up...or put him in the back lobby/ concorses...

If every one of the 3000 people at the show each did a shout-out or two, that would be a lot of crowd yelling over 2 1/2 hours.

I would prefer if people would just be quiet and enjoy the show.

Fahka

This must be an ego thing, i can't understand why anyone would interject themselves at a musical performance, like really? If anyone yelled out around me i would tell them that if they don't shut up i either want a 100 bucks in my hand or to they are getting punched in the face. So disrespectful and douchey. Not only to vedder but to the people who paid alot of money to see the show. Who pays that kind of money for a ved solo show (knowing full well that he talks about politics ect) and gets pissed when he says something political? Makes zero sense. I think he should make an example and throw some of these annoying screaming asshats out of the show so the rest of the paying costumers don't have to suffer.. Its only fair...seems like no one is going to get the message until they completely waste 100 bucks by getting kicked out of a show for being an embarrassing tool of a human being.

Fahka

High Fidelity 2000 wrote:

I think the problem is that Ed tries to make the shows such a casual, playing in your living room kind of vibe, that people seem to actually think he is playing in their living room and they deserve to engage in the conversation more than necessary. .

you would think that would make people be MORE respectful, not less..People have no couth anymore..

LloydXmas

I blame Jackson Browne.

JOEJOEJOE

I wonder what sort of thrill or statisfaction people get by yelling at the shows?

Do they feel it builds some sort of bond with Ed, or does it make them feel as if they are part of the show?

JOEJOEJOE

When the Foos did their acoustic tour in the mid-00's, Dave ejected a pair of spunky 20-something fellas by in inviting them to go backstage and get the party started without him. I am assuming this meant they received a refund for their tickets and were promptly ejected.

matt.watt

I just don't get this behavior at all. I grew up in Tulsa. I moved out. My hometown's not as bad as most people not from there imagine it but there's plenty of idiots to make it difficult to convince people otherwise. Last night was some of the worst displays of respect for performers that I've ever witnessed. Glen and Eddie were both getting it. Someone actually shouting "Eddie, Eddie, Eddie" during Glen's performance. There were FAR too many lit up idiots at that show last night, as was evidence by the half hour long line bathroom line through most of the night. I sat right on the aisle where some guy comes up and starts shouting at Ed that he wants to sing with him. He was there for a full minute, not backing down before security came from behind the curtain to take him outside. The shouts were just overly obnoxious, it's fucking indescribable. You can distinguish the wasted idiots from your normal whistles and hoots, and there were a PLETHORA of drunk heckling last night. Keep that shit to yourself. I knew Ed would say something political and some Okie dipshit would shoot off their mouth.

What makes the Brady Theater great is also what makes it terribly annoying. The acoustics were designed before powered amplification existed. Anything you say can be heard by the entire theater.

Glen and Eddie both alluded to the issues of the audiences lack of RESPECT last night.

Fahka

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

I wonder what sort of thrill or satisfaction people get by yelling at the shows?

Do they feel it builds some sort of bond with Ed, or does it make them feel as if they are part of the show?

i guess annoying ved is better to some people than not having any rapport at all with him.. people are so twisted in the head that its not even funny.. Id like to blame alcohol or something but anyone who gets tanked up enough to make an ass of themselves at a vedder solo show is fucked to begin with anyhow..

JOEJOEJOE wrote:

When the Foos did their acoustic tour in the mid-00's, Dave ejected a pair of spunky 20-something fellas by in inviting them to go backstage and get the party started without him. I am assuming this meant they received a refund for their tickets and were promptly ejected.

This needs to happen, someone needs to be made an example of since it seems to be a re occurring problem...

matt.watt wrote:

You can distinguish the wasted idiots from your normal whistles and hoots, and there were a PLETHORA of drunk heckling last night.

Was there booze sold at the actual venue? I wish every music venue would ban drinking (not saying it would totally prevent drunken- ness but it would help if people can't keep getting tanked during the show)Venues make quite a profit off of these drunken idiots so i doubt it will ever change . I saw a concert recently where there was no alcohol and although people were bummed it was so much more enjoyable. No puking, no screaming, no falling into people, no rushing the stage, no spilling beer on the person in front of you. It was nice. This is why joints need to be handed out and the booze needs to be banned.. (i get that some people can drink without becoming obnoxious but those people are few and far between it seems.)

pandora

Some of the first shows back in, well some years back now,
I saw were out west, it was really hard to just remain seated
let alone quiet. Others had a much worse time of it than I did.
Milwaukee may go down as the most rowdy of what I have seen,
also maybe distracting too, unfortunately.

I think it just took a bit to get the PJ out of us and into the Ed acoustic mode.
My favorite parts of the fan views is reading what Ed said,
so no, please don't ever stop interacting and giving us more of a glimpse
into that lovely mind and heart.

The shows are so very special I really wouldn't change a thing!
Maybe just get to one again someday...hot dog!

matt.watt

Fahka wrote:

Was there booze sold at the actual venue? I wish every music venue would ban drinking (not saying it would totally prevent drunken- ness but it would help if people can't keep getting tanked during the show)Venues make quite a profit off of these drunken idiots so i doubt it will ever change . I saw a concert recently where there was no alcohol and although people were bummed it was so much more enjoyable. No puking, no screaming, no falling into people, no rushing the stage, no spilling beer on the person in front of you. It was nice. This is why joints need to be handed out and the booze needs to be banned.. (i get that some people can drink without becoming obnoxious but those people are few and far between it seems.)

Yeah there was beer sold at the venue. Bud Light, Bud & Shock Top. In a way that's kind of telling isn't it? It's Oklahoma 3.2 beer. I think most people drank at nearby bars before coming to the theater. It was noticeable to me how many people were drunk before the show started. I've lived in KC for the past several years and haven't noticed an audience like that, since, well seeing Buddy Guy recently in KC, sadly. Some people drink themselves stupid. Some people don't pace themselves or know their limits. And you get a lot of people who get upset when you confront them about their behavior, because they feel entitled to shout whatever they please. I hope tonight is better.