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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,090
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  • dancepartnerdancepartner Posts: 324
    Okay, I'm confused too. This link didn't go anywher but to a home page....
    don't know if it's me?
    p.s. just how in the hell does everyone "clip & paste" from anothers post? I've tried using both the quote icon and above mentioned clip & paste.... this question will make eyes roll but it's true—I'm one of the most unlikely people to be trying to figure out "all things dissiminated via the internet"
  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    what I think is that you need to give it a rest.

    Mitt Romney ran a horrible campaign. Dreadful.

    But that's not the reason he lost.

    You can blame Ken Mehlman. Back in 2004, Ken Mehlman was running the campaign of George W Bush. Seeing that Bush was relatively unpopular with likely voters, he put anti-gay measures on the ballots of any state that he thought was in danger. That brought the anti-gay evangelicals to the polls and while they were there, they voted for Bush.

    And it worked.

    Similar measures helped Republicans win in 2010, but that time they targeted Hispanic people with the "Papers Please" laws meant to make harassing Latinos legal.

    And of course in 2002, Muslims and immigrants were all vilified gleefully by Republicans.

    This time... well, they had no one left.

    He lost because Republicans failed to see that the demographics of the country have changed. It used to be that they could pick a random minority... Muslims, Blacks, Gays, Latinos... every election cycle it was a different one. And one by one, they pissed us all off and we formed bonds between our communities. The GLBT community showed up to protest the "Papers Please" laws and the Black Community has supported the gay community.

    And when the War On Women was in full swing this election cycle, we saw how old white men attacked us and saw them doing it to women. They were threatening to legally force women to have "Trans-Vaginal Ultrasounds" and make them carry rape pregnancies and said if they got pregnant then they were sluts that wanted it.

    Minorities finally had enough numbers to fight back. And we did.

    And THAT is why you lost.

    And I'm glad you did.

    It's a brave new world. You should pitch your fears and come join it.
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  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    Prince is that response really for this thread? LOL
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

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  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    Purple Politics! Indpendently holding all those in power accountable to THE PEOPLE! We need to unite on the things we can agree on.....and ending "identity politics is one of them" Also, exposing the truth is another. Your thoughts?
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    it's going to be for ALL of your threads.
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  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    it's going to be for ALL of your threads.

    You are the type arent you? I know you all too well there bud! You are a sabatoger! Well, you will expose yourself for sure....for the world to see! Good luck bud
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    fear4freedom wrote:
    Purple Politics! Indpendently holding all those in power accountable to THE PEOPLE! We need to unite on the things we can agree on.....and ending "identity politics is one of them" Also, exposing the truth is another. Your thoughts?

    This is the new desperate screed of the right.

    Do away with "identity politics."

    Well tell you what... as soon a Republicans stop making laws to target and attack minority groups, maybe the youth vote might not run screaming from the room when the word "Republican" is mentioned?
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  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    fear4freedom wrote:
    Purple Politics! Indpendently holding all those in power accountable to THE PEOPLE! We need to unite on the things we can agree on.....and ending "identity politics is one of them" Also, exposing the truth is another. Your thoughts?

    This is the new desperate screed of the right.

    Do away with "identity politics."

    Well tell you what... as soon a Republicans stop making laws to target and attack minority groups, maybe the youth vote might not run screaming from the room when the word "Republican" is mentioned?

    you didnt watch the videos or read the links or site have you? YOU are busted!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,084
    Woooooo, "cutting edge ideology", woooooooooo! Same old shit, repackaged and rebranded, kind of like "new Coke" versus "old Coke." Do you really think we're that naive? Good luck with that "cutting edge ideology."

    Willard Mitt Romney + grapes = (please, by all means, fill in the blank)_______________________

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  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    Halifax2TheMax wrote:
    Woooooo, "cutting edge ideology", woooooooooo! Same old shit, repackaged and rebranded, kind of like "new Coke" versus "old Coke." Do you really think we're that naive? Good luck with that "cutting edge ideology."

    Willard Mitt Romney + grapes = (please, by all means, fill in the blank)_______________________

    Peace.

    You didnt watch either? Jeez! I believe that Mitt Romney would have ran this country off a cliff at 50 mph! However, I believe that Obama will run it off a cliff at 100 mph! I am not a "party GOP pride guy". You however, are about to reveal to the world how divisive you are and how shallow you can be! I got news for you, the Democratic Party is not your favorite sports team bud! Drop your PARTY PRIDE and seek the truth!
    The truth may set us free! The truth will hold those in power....accountable!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,090
    4F4- you still haven't given us much of a clue as to what this is about. Everything on the web site leads to the home page which tells nothing. The videos are basically a joke in that they say nothing. To my way of thinking this whole thing looks like banal trolling behavior or classic walking around in a circular room looking for a corner to piss in activity.
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  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    brianlux wrote:
    4F4- you still haven't given us much of a clue as to what this is about. Everything on the web site leads to the home page which tells nothing. The videos are basically a joke in that they say nothing. To my way of thinking this whole thing looks like banal trolling behavior or classic walking around in a circular room looking for a corner to piss in activity.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC5o57mz37I LOL ok
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIpmqddIeYk
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,084
    fear4freedom wrote:
    Halifax2TheMax wrote:
    Woooooo, "cutting edge ideology", woooooooooo! Same old shit, repackaged and rebranded, kind of like "new Coke" versus "old Coke." Do you really think we're that naive? Good luck with that "cutting edge ideology."

    Willard Mitt Romney + grapes = (please, by all means, fill in the blank)_______________________

    Peace.

    You didnt watch either? Jeez! I believe that Mitt Romney would have ran this country off a cliff at 50 mph! However, I believe that Obama will run it off a cliff at 100 mph! I am not a "party GOP pride guy". You however, are about to reveal to the world how divisive you are and how shallow you can be! I got news for you, the Democratic Party is not your favorite sports team bud! Drop your PARTY PRIDE and seek the truth!
    The truth may set us free! The truth will hold those in power....accountable!

    Okay Muffin, I get it. Your truth will set me free! I see that now since I've watched Glen Beck and this "cutting edge ideology." I see it now! The truth, it will, it will, it will set me free!!!!! It will! Oh, and one other thing, like the world cares how divisive I can be. Please. Save your faux outrage for the Benghazi hearings.

    Peace.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,090
    fear4freedom wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    4F4- you still haven't given us much of a clue as to what this is about. Everything on the web site leads to the home page which tells nothing. The videos are basically a joke in that they say nothing. To my way of thinking this whole thing looks like banal trolling behavior or classic walking around in a circular room looking for a corner to piss in activity.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC5o57mz37I LOL ok
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIpmqddIeYk


    Same response as above. Platitudes without a plan are so much gas. I still haven't a clue as to who is behind this group you seem to espouse. Sorry man, but I'm done here.
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  • Prince Of DorknessPrince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    Do some Google Searching and you find this...

    "What’s your end goal?

    We want people to become supporters of ours: join our email list, Facebook “like” us. You have to provide different avenues for different types of people, like “clicktivists,” or people that just want to click on a petition or whatever. We have two unique digital advocacy tools: the Facebook Truth Bomb, and the Free Thinkers Pledge. These are things you could do as a clicktivist to help the cause.

    We have also developed this organic nationwide network of truthseeking communities, called Project Truth. You can download the Manual of Responsible Revolution and inspire people."

    Well THAT clears it up.

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  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    brianlux wrote:
    fear4freedom wrote:
    brianlux wrote:
    4F4- you still haven't given us much of a clue as to what this is about. Everything on the web site leads to the home page which tells nothing. The videos are basically a joke in that they say nothing. To my way of thinking this whole thing looks like banal trolling behavior or classic walking around in a circular room looking for a corner to piss in activity.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC5o57mz37I LOL ok
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIpmqddIeYk


    Same response as above. Platitudes without a plan are so much gas. I still haven't a clue as to who is behind this group you seem to espouse. Sorry man, but I'm done here.

    No agenda here except for us to find a few things that we all can agree on and seeking truth is one of them. A way for us to conversate about important issues with a new way to do it, so we can actually discuss them without hatred and labels!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    Halifax2TheMax wrote:
    fear4freedom wrote:
    Halifax2TheMax wrote:
    Woooooo, "cutting edge ideology", woooooooooo! Same old shit, repackaged and rebranded, kind of like "new Coke" versus "old Coke." Do you really think we're that naive? Good luck with that "cutting edge ideology."

    Willard Mitt Romney + grapes = (please, by all means, fill in the blank)_______________________

    Peace.

    You didnt watch either? Jeez! I believe that Mitt Romney would have ran this country off a cliff at 50 mph! However, I believe that Obama will run it off a cliff at 100 mph! I am not a "party GOP pride guy". You however, are about to reveal to the world how divisive you are and how shallow you can be! I got news for you, the Democratic Party is not your favorite sports team bud! Drop your PARTY PRIDE and seek the truth!
    The truth may set us free! The truth will hold those in power....accountable!

    Okay Muffin, I get it. Your truth will set me free! I see that now since I've watched Glen Beck and this "cutting edge ideology." I see it now! The truth, it will, it will, it will set me free!!!!! It will! Oh, and one other thing, like the world cares how divisive I can be. Please. Save your faux outrage for the Benghazi hearings.

    Peace.

    Who is Glenn Beck?
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,084
    The lead seeker of truth?
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  • Hugh Freaking DillonHugh Freaking Dillon Posts: 14,010
    fear4freedom wrote:
    I believe that Mitt Romney would have ran this country off a cliff at 50 mph! !

    so WHY did you start about 76 threads preaching your undying love and support for him? if you believed that, shouldn't you have voted Gary Johnson?
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  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    saw the videos which were interesting. however i asked myself where did their numbers come from? there didn't seem to be any hard data.

    I think it would be better if they showed where they got their numbers from.
  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:
    fear4freedom wrote:
    I believe that Mitt Romney would have ran this country off a cliff at 50 mph! !

    so WHY did you start about 76 threads preaching your undying love and support for him? if you believed that, shouldn't you have voted Gary Johnson?

    Cmon HUGHEY! You know why! Because in the next line it says I believe Obama will drive this country off a cliff at 100 mph! Thats whY! Context matters!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,084
    Please define "drive this country off a cliff at 100 miles per hour." It might help us all understand what you think might happen in the next 4 years. Also, please explain how it would have been different if Willard Mitt Romney, "drove it off a cliff at 50 miles per hour." Enquiring minds want to know.

    Peace.
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  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    Halifax2TheMax wrote:
    Please define "drive this country off a cliff at 100 miles per hour." It might help us all understand what you think might happen in the next 4 years. Also, please explain how it would have been different if Willard Mitt Romney, "drove it off a cliff at 50 miles per hour." Enquiring minds want to know.

    Peace.

    Its an expression, in terms of I dont believe either candidate will stop the spending, which is our number one biggest problem! Mitt will spend half of Obama and be considered a meany for it! Anytime we cut spending for anything, the left paints the right as being "anti". There is no way out now.....the left will use this method with our youth from here on out and probably sound better to the youth! Its easy to print money, raise revenues and direct that money to areas of interests and lobbyists to basically purchase their support for future elections and future voting blocks! Its never fun to go to Vegas with a conservative, but if we wish to save our country, we need to cut spending big time! Bottom line!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    fear4freedom wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    it's going to be for ALL of your threads.

    You are the type arent you? I know you all too well there bud! You are a sabatoger! Well, you will expose yourself for sure....for the world to see! Good luck bud


    i believe the word youre looking for is saboteur. 8-)
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,084
    fear4freedom wrote:
    Halifax2TheMax wrote:
    Please define "drive this country off a cliff at 100 miles per hour." It might help us all understand what you think might happen in the next 4 years. Also, please explain how it would have been different if Willard Mitt Romney, "drove it off a cliff at 50 miles per hour." Enquiring minds want to know.

    Peace.

    Its an expression, in terms of I dont believe either candidate will stop the spending, which is our number one biggest problem! Mitt will spend half of Obama and be considered a meany for it! Anytime we cut spending for anything, the left paints the right as being "anti". There is no way out now.....the left will use this method with our youth from here on out and probably sound better to the youth! Its easy to print money, raise revenues and direct that money to areas of interests and lobbyists to basically purchase their support for future elections and future voting blocks! Its never fun to go to Vegas with a conservative, but if we wish to save our country, we need to cut spending big time! Bottom line!

    So, do you mean stop the spending as in completely stop the spending? Like no more? Or should the government freeze spending at current levels or should they cut the deficit? Or should spending go back to 1980 levels? You do realize that Obama is proposing $4.1 trillion in cuts and revenue increases over the next 10 years right? Is that enough? Should it be $8 trillion? $16 trillion? And you realize that non-defense discretionary spending, exclusive of social security and medicare, is about 14% or 15% of the budget right? Would you welcome a 10% decrease in the defense budget? Why or why not? So, where does the money to pay for the $16 trillion national debt come from? I would like to hear your proposed solutions. How much is "big time?" What is the "bottom line?"

    Peace.
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  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    Halifax2TheMax wrote:
    fear4freedom wrote:
    Halifax2TheMax wrote:
    Please define "drive this country off a cliff at 100 miles per hour." It might help us all understand what you think might happen in the next 4 years. Also, please explain how it would have been different if Willard Mitt Romney, "drove it off a cliff at 50 miles per hour." Enquiring minds want to know.

    Peace.

    Its an expression, in terms of I dont believe either candidate will stop the spending, which is our number one biggest problem! Mitt will spend half of Obama and be considered a meany for it! Anytime we cut spending for anything, the left paints the right as being "anti". There is no way out now.....the left will use this method with our youth from here on out and probably sound better to the youth! Its easy to print money, raise revenues and direct that money to areas of interests and lobbyists to basically purchase their support for future elections and future voting blocks! Its never fun to go to Vegas with a conservative, but if we wish to save our country, we need to cut spending big time! Bottom line!

    So, do you mean stop the spending as in completely stop the spending? Like no more? Or should the government freeze spending at current levels or should they cut the deficit? Or should spending go back to 1980 levels? You do realize that Obama is proposing $4.1 trillion in cuts and revenue increases over the next 10 years right? Is that enough? Should it be $8 trillion? $16 trillion? And you realize that non-defense discretionary spending, exclusive of social security and medicare, is about 14% or 15% of the budget right? Would you welcome a 10% decrease in the defense budget? Why or why not? So, where does the money to pay for the $16 trillion national debt come from? I would like to hear your proposed solutions. How much is "big time?" What is the "bottom line?"

    Peace.

    I believe bold action would be to balance the annual budget within a few to five years! I also believe in cutting all areas totalling about 8 trillion over the next 10 years. I also believe that keeping the taxes low for businesses would increase jobs and incentives and therefore raise revenues. There is alot of waste that can be cut....this is where whoever is doing the cutting proposals will be called out by the left as being "anti"
    I would pursue waste and fraud at a much better rate than a current admin. who is beholden to all of it! Obama owes many groups, lobbyists, unions, etc. for both of his elections and some of them even say he does! I would limit the federal govt. and enhance the private sector. I would cut Fema by $1 less than Obamas Sequestration just to say that Obama was going to cut it more than me! LOL

    A created job is not just a position paid for by taking money from one area and putting it in another, a true job created is creating an atmosphere of want, need and desire to hire the position! That is a true job that needs to be created.....thats what we need, positions that are created from nothing! Wealth that is created from nothing by using our unique opportunities and combining them with our great people and their money.
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    i read the US economy grew 2.2% over the previous 12 months to august 2012. is that acceptable?
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  • fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
    catefrances wrote:
    i read the US economy grew 2.2% over the previous 12 months to august 2012. is that acceptable?

    NO!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    fear4freedom wrote:
    catefrances wrote:
    i read the US economy grew 2.2% over the previous 12 months to august 2012. is that acceptable?

    NO!

    our economy grew by 3.8% during the same time. what percentage would be acceptable and how do you think growth can be stimulated? or is it okay for it to be seen to be growing with no particular 'acceptable' minimum percentage climb in mind?
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