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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,470
    pjl44 wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i've got a whole bag of those memes just waiting to be posted lol...

    i'm not a doctor, but i play one on AMT...

    i think at this point it is best that we just laugh at the people who are talking about secession and signing petitions. it will only piss them off more :lol:

    Yaaaaaahooooooooo! We found more people we've never met to hate! Let's get after 'em!
    who said anything about hate?

    i support the united states being the united states, and anyone in favor of breaking them up for no good reason deserves to be ridiculed. especially if it is just because they lost an election. channel that energy and come back and win the next one for god's sake...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,470
    the whole issue of states potentially wanting to secede today is like a football team losing in the super bowl and deciding to leave the league after the game. it seems so juvenile...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    OK... but the most important thing... WHERE can I sign the petitions?

    I mean... I'll sign them all. Fuck, if Texas over to Georgia wants to leave? I'll bring my chain saw and we can cut it off and let it float away.

    We get to keep Key West.
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  • SatansFuton
    SatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    OK... but the most important thing... WHERE can I sign the petitions?

    I mean... I'll sign them all. Fuck, if Texas over to Georgia wants to leave? I'll bring my chain saw and we can cut it off and let it float away.

    We get to keep Key West.

    Well hang on, let me jump over the border before we go doing that. I don't want to be adrift in the ocean on Texas island with Jerry Jones, Leatherface and Dubya.
    "See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    I haven't heard about it on the news yet.
    I was hoping it was based in election and electoral reform because somethings got to give there.

    The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.

    Full story here: http://www.queerty.com/over-30-states-a ... z2C6gPBMxx

    actually there's a good point here yes?

    Wow! 30 states involved.
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    I see an inner struggle with some on this subject as other subjects.
    One moment some want to be compassionate the next laugh and ridicule.
    Hope compassion wins out, that is a country to be proud of.
    Being laughed at is not usually what we would want from others,
    but we sure need a sense of humor.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    in all seriousness ... this is a good thing ... i'm really not sure why anyone would be up in arms about this ...
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    pjl44 wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    f@ck these people. seriously. if 23,000 texans and people from 19 other states are that butt hurt over an election that they want to secede from the union, why not just have those individuals move to another country on their own? give them tax breaks to get the fuck out of here. people in my state signed the petition and they are crazy if they think the majority of missourians will just allow a small minority to make us leave the union.

    this is a slap in the face to every vet who fought to defend this country, keep it united, or to unite it after the first rash of secessions.

    yeah go ahead and leave, come up with your own currency, arrange your own treaties, form your own military, secure your own borders, and let rick perry handle everything. next time a hurricane hits your gulf coast or if a central american country threatens your sovreignity, you are on your own. don't come to the US and beg for help.

    About stoking partisan fires...right on cue...

    No one's gonna make you a foreigner. Cripes.

    Folks only read what they want to around these parts. It's not a long article, but here's a paragraph from it:

    An article from WKRC quotes a University of Louisville political science professor who explained that these petitions aren't uncommon. Similar petitions were filed following the 2004 and 2008 elections. Still, should the petitions garner 25,000 signatures in a month, they will require an official response from the Obama administration.


    Who was President in 2004? So, based on the article, one could assume it's Dems that started this new American "tradition." If this were actually journalistic it's headline would be - Here We Go Again....

    This is indicative of the climate in the country. Doesn't matter which side wins, the other does these stupid things. The fact that folks can get so wrapped up in a poorly written blog shows you all you need to know.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,594
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i don't think the calls for secession are going to go away in a week or two. since the gop won't be able to get much passed legislatively that frustration among their constituents is only going to increase and the calls may become louder.

    texas has talked about secession before. perry was talking about it 3 years ago.

    Yes it is. Want to know how simple to file and trivial these "petitions" are? Perhaps this one is more your speed...

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... a/dmQl1bXL
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,470
    pjl44 wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    i don't think the calls for secession are going to go away in a week or two. since the gop won't be able to get much passed legislatively that frustration among their constituents is only going to increase and the calls may become louder.

    texas has talked about secession before. perry was talking about it 3 years ago.

    Yes it is. Want to know how simple to file and trivial these "petitions" are? Perhaps this one is more your speed...

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... a/dmQl1bXL
    signed.

    purely for comedy purposes, but still signed....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    SatansFuton wrote:
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    OK... but the most important thing... WHERE can I sign the petitions?

    I mean... I'll sign them all. Fuck, if Texas over to Georgia wants to leave? I'll bring my chain saw and we can cut it off and let it float away.

    We get to keep Key West.

    Well hang on, let me jump over the border before we go doing that. I don't want to be adrift in the ocean on Texas island with Jerry Jones, Leatherface and Dubya.
    Don't forget Glen Beck.
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,441
    pandora wrote:
    Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget

    Pretty much all states do. It's generally in their constitutions.

    Everyone likes to talk about seceding or moving away when their side loses. I guess it gives people something to talk about. The issue was settled long ago by Messrs. Jackson & Lincoln.
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  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget

    Pretty much all states do. It's generally in their constitutions.

    Everyone likes to talk about seceding or moving away when their side loses. I guess it gives people something to talk about. The issue was settled long ago by Messrs. Jackson & Lincoln.
    Yes I heard it started after the Democrats lost ... yes?

    It seems to be getting worse though and that's a lot of states.
    I haven't done research though to see how it compares to past elections.

    I think this movement it is based pretty much in money...
    Obama is out of control spending. But he will probably allow the cliff and get his defense cuts
    and tax hikes without even trying. This will help the deficit and he'll leave office looking good.
  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,441
    pandora wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget

    Pretty much all states do. It's generally in their constitutions.

    Everyone likes to talk about seceding or moving away when their side loses. I guess it gives people something to talk about. The issue was settled long ago by Messrs. Jackson & Lincoln.
    Yes I heard it started after the Democrats lost ... yes?

    It seems to be getting worse though and that's a lot of states.
    I haven't done research though to see how it compares to past elections.

    I think this movement it is based pretty much in money...
    Obama is out of control spending. But he will probably allow the cliff and get his defense cuts
    and tax hikes without even trying. This will help the deficit and he'll leave office looking good.

    I think Democrats talked of moving to Canada after 2004, with their universal health care and more liberal attitudes. Don't remember any secession talk.

    Also Democrats were sick of their tax dollars going to the Iraq War and tax cuts for millionaires, both primary drivers of our current deficit.

    I think they should just go off the cliff and then take it from there. We'll survive. We don't need to spend more on military than the rest of the world combined. The R's wouldn't have to break their no tax increase pledge after 1/1/13.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    polaris_x wrote:
    in all seriousness ... this is a good thing ... i'm really not sure why anyone would be up in arms about this ...


    anyone!? ... haha ... or are you partisan folks so hell bent on walking into walls ... if so, please continue ...
  • MayDay10
    MayDay10 Posts: 11,865
    i think a lot of it has to do with the abundance of social media, internet, petitions for everything, etc.

    It isnt a bigger "movement" now than ever, its just everyone has a computer and interconnected.
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    pandora wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget

    Pretty much all states do. It's generally in their constitutions.

    Everyone likes to talk about seceding or moving away when their side loses. I guess it gives people something to talk about. The issue was settled long ago by Messrs. Jackson & Lincoln.
    Yes I heard it started after the Democrats lost ... yes?

    It seems to be getting worse though and that's a lot of states.
    I haven't done research though to see how it compares to past elections.

    I think this movement it is based pretty much in money...
    Obama is out of control spending.     But he will probably allow the cliff and get his defense cuts
    and tax hikes without even trying. This will help the deficit and he'll leave office looking good.

    It's funny that a lot of the red states that have been brought up in this secession crap are the ones who are the most dependent on federal money.
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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget

    Pretty much all states do. It's generally in their constitutions.
    The Texas "balanced budget" is an illusion. Yes, it's required, so the legislature passes one but it's mostly smoke and mirrors. They overestimate the amount of tax revenue so that it looks like it will cover all expenses. When the legislature convenes the next time, there's always a deficit. They've been doing it this way ever since the balanced budget amendment was passed.
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  • SatansFuton
    SatansFuton Posts: 5,399
    Who Princess wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget

    Pretty much all states do. It's generally in their constitutions.
    The Texas "balanced budget" is an illusion. Yes, it's required, so the legislature passes one but it's mostly smoke and mirrors. They overestimate the amount of tax revenue so that it looks like it will cover all expenses. When the legislature convenes the next time, there's always a deficit. They've been doing it this way ever since the balanced budget amendment was passed.

    Yeah, it's mostly BS. For one thing they cut a lot of education money to plug holes. Plus they used loopholes to balance it. Like delaying paying billions in bills and putting it into the next years budget, so we still owe it, and having state accountants inflate property values,
    "See a broad to get dat booty yak 'em, leg 'er down, a smack 'em yak 'em!"
  • pandora
    pandora Posts: 21,855
    blackredyellow wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Pretty much all states do. It's generally in their constitutions.

    Everyone likes to talk about seceding or moving away when their side loses. I guess it gives people something to talk about. The issue was settled long ago by Messrs. Jackson & Lincoln.
    Yes I heard it started after the Democrats lost ... yes?

    It seems to be getting worse though and that's a lot of states.
    I haven't done research though to see how it compares to past elections.

    I think this movement it is based pretty much in money...
    Obama is out of control spending.     But he will probably allow the cliff and get his defense cuts
    and tax hikes without even trying. This will help the deficit and he'll leave office looking good.

    It's funny that a lot of the red states that have been brought up in this secession crap are the ones who are the most dependent on federal money.
    Yes unfortunately we have many on Obamas aid here and a large population of illegal
    immigrants that have flooded our social programs.
    I think there are some blue states involved in these petitions yes?

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