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Who is the "they"?WhatYouTaughtMe said:
No, not really.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Really.0 -
http://www.12news.com/mb/news/petitions-for-change-pop-up-after-arizona-primary-voting-fiasco/98226804
Mad voters in Arizona created several online petitions after issues at Arizona polling locations Tuesday.
One petition asked the White House to investigate voter fraud and suppression of Democratic voters in Arizona. Voters from both parties called 12 News reporting they were given a provisional ballot.
READ: 'Democratic' voters got party wrong: county elections chided
READ: Arizona governor: Long voting lines 'unacceptable'
READ: 'I screwed up' Recorder says after voting disaster, won't resign
READ: Whom to contact about voting disaster
The whitehouse.gov petition was created by "R.C." in Las Vegas, Nevada, the website states. As of this writing, it had 62,064 signatures.
Whitehouse.gov petitions with 100,000 online signatures get an official response from the White House.
Most voters in Maricopa County who went to the polls were faced with long lines and waits that exceeded 3 hours in some cases.
A change.org petition is calling for the impeachment of Maricopa County Recorders Helen Purcell and Karen Osborne. This petition had 1,384 online signatures as of this writing.
WATCH: Last voters left the downtown Phoenix voting location at 12:19 a.m. Other locations still had votersPost edited by Free on0 -
Independent voters clog up the lines by showing up (from the clip)Free said:
Gotta love those non-politician guys.0 -
C'mon, I tried to have some discourse with you , but you insist on being intentionally obtuse. "They" would be the people making the decision to limit polling places. In this case, the county recorder and the board she convinced to reduce the amount of polling places.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I also can't speak for anyone else but my girlfriend, a life long registered Democrat, discovered she was listed as a libertarian. Her address was also incorrect despite her changing it with them multiple times since we moved 5 years ago. Regardless of what you think about this whole thing, the process is a fucking mess out here. It would not surprise me if many people were incorrectly assigned to the wrong party. I witnessed it in my own household. She was one of the people clogging up the lines, and her provisional ballot might end up not counting.0 -
Ok. Your country shouts home of the free - we get it.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
C'mon, I tried to have some discourse with you , but you insist on being intentionally obtuse. "They" would be the people making the decision to limit polling places. In this case, the county recorder and the board she convinced to reduce the amount of polling places.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I also can't speak for anyone else but my girlfriend, a life long registered Democrat, discovered she was listed as a libertarian. Her address was also incorrect despite her changing it with them multiple times since we moved 5 years ago. Regardless of what you think about this whole thing, the process is a fucking mess out here. It would not surprise me if many people were incorrectly assigned to the wrong party. I witnessed it in my own household. She was one of the people clogging up the lines, and her provisional ballot might end up not counting.
Now that discourse aside....
I don't understand how year after year and knowing as a people there will be an election you guys don't call for election reform.
Super Tuesdays sound like a gimmick.
Your gf was assigned to the wrong party? I'm trying here to understand that as a land of the free you have to be choose a party and that it can be changed by others on election day.0 -
Like you, we are trying to understand it as well. We have never seen anything like it.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Ok. Your country shouts home of the free - we get it.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
C'mon, I tried to have some discourse with you , but you insist on being intentionally obtuse. "They" would be the people making the decision to limit polling places. In this case, the county recorder and the board she convinced to reduce the amount of polling places.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I also can't speak for anyone else but my girlfriend, a life long registered Democrat, discovered she was listed as a libertarian. Her address was also incorrect despite her changing it with them multiple times since we moved 5 years ago. Regardless of what you think about this whole thing, the process is a fucking mess out here. It would not surprise me if many people were incorrectly assigned to the wrong party. I witnessed it in my own household. She was one of the people clogging up the lines, and her provisional ballot might end up not counting.
Now that discourse aside....
I don't understand how year after year and knowing as a people there will be an election you guys don't call for election reform.
Super Tuesdays sound like a gimmick.
Your gf was assigned to the wrong party? I'm trying here to understand that as a land of the free you have to be choose a party and that it can be changed by others on election day.
Arizona is a state that requires you to be party affiliated to vote in that party's primary.0 -
It's been too long that a country, any country is supposed to have a fair election.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
Like you, we are trying to understand it as well. We have never seen anything like it.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Ok. Your country shouts home of the free - we get it.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
C'mon, I tried to have some discourse with you , but you insist on being intentionally obtuse. "They" would be the people making the decision to limit polling places. In this case, the county recorder and the board she convinced to reduce the amount of polling places.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I also can't speak for anyone else but my girlfriend, a life long registered Democrat, discovered she was listed as a libertarian. Her address was also incorrect despite her changing it with them multiple times since we moved 5 years ago. Regardless of what you think about this whole thing, the process is a fucking mess out here. It would not surprise me if many people were incorrectly assigned to the wrong party. I witnessed it in my own household. She was one of the people clogging up the lines, and her provisional ballot might end up not counting.
Now that discourse aside....
I don't understand how year after year and knowing as a people there will be an election you guys don't call for election reform.
Super Tuesdays sound like a gimmick.
Your gf was assigned to the wrong party? I'm trying here to understand that as a land of the free you have to be choose a party and that it can be changed by others on election day.
Arizona is a state that requires you to be party affiliated to vote in that party's primary.
I know it is not your doing but a year of running entwined with voting days that lead up to the actual vote day seems wonky at best.
Your country has not seen anything like it because people are outraged what might happen.
Someone woke them up - and I won't say who, because you know.0 -
You are right and that is what makes this even more frustrating. Record primary turnouts all over the country and Maricopa County reduces the polling places from 200 to 60? There was every indication the trend was going to continue here. Plenty of time to prepare. Basic incompetence at best.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
It's been too long that a country, any country is supposed to have a fair election.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
Like you, we are trying to understand it as well. We have never seen anything like it.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Ok. Your country shouts home of the free - we get it.WhatYouTaughtMe said:
C'mon, I tried to have some discourse with you , but you insist on being intentionally obtuse. "They" would be the people making the decision to limit polling places. In this case, the county recorder and the board she convinced to reduce the amount of polling places.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I also can't speak for anyone else but my girlfriend, a life long registered Democrat, discovered she was listed as a libertarian. Her address was also incorrect despite her changing it with them multiple times since we moved 5 years ago. Regardless of what you think about this whole thing, the process is a fucking mess out here. It would not surprise me if many people were incorrectly assigned to the wrong party. I witnessed it in my own household. She was one of the people clogging up the lines, and her provisional ballot might end up not counting.
Now that discourse aside....
I don't understand how year after year and knowing as a people there will be an election you guys don't call for election reform.
Super Tuesdays sound like a gimmick.
Your gf was assigned to the wrong party? I'm trying here to understand that as a land of the free you have to be choose a party and that it can be changed by others on election day.
Arizona is a state that requires you to be party affiliated to vote in that party's primary.
I know it is not your doing but a year of running entwined with voting days that lead up to the actual vote day seems wonky at best.
Your country has not seen anything like it because people are outraged what might happen.
Someone woke them up - and I won't say who, because you know.0
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