the best "democracy" money can buy

JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
edited November 2012 in A Moving Train
after 20 years and $2 billion dollars on this years campaign, the democrats finally learned something...MATH!
the O-bomb-us brain trust did a superb job of focusing on the swing precincts and counties and winning them in order to capture the states electoral votes.
in some states (swing states included) rMoney won most of the state except for the most densely populated voting areas, pretty amazing stuff. check it out on the maps where you can drill down to the counties and precincts.

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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Hillary will follow the footsteps!
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,038
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    brianlux said:

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    BOOM dynamite!
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    That's criminal! But let's puke and pants shit over voter IDs!
  • JC29856 said:
    This is what it should be like on voting day. Not a minority of people voting.
  • WhatYouTaughtMeWhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    edited March 2016

    JC29856 said:
    This is what it should be like on voting day. Not a minority of people voting.
    Except for the reason behind the line. 60 polling places to serve 1.25 million registered voters? Even if half of those people voted, it is nowhere near enough locations. Considering the neighboring counties that had almost as many locations to service far less.
  • ^^^
    Maybe for too long it has been noticed that the low voter turnout in your country required no more than a few polls?
    Voters are coming out in record turnouts - a first in a very long time.
  • ^^^
    Maybe for too long it has been noticed that the low voter turnout in your country required no more than a few polls?
    Voters are coming out in record turnouts - a first in a very long time.

    It was a "cost saving" measure taken by an incompetent official who should kiss her job goodbye.
  • ^^^
    Maybe for too long it has been noticed that the low voter turnout in your country required no more than a few polls?
    Voters are coming out in record turnouts - a first in a very long time.

    It was a "cost saving" measure taken by an incompetent official who should kiss her job goodbye.
    That may be true but constantly you guys are always advocating "Get out and Vote"! because the typical lacklustre turnout is frustrating.
    Now a massive turnout is happening and all of a sudden "It's fixed"
    Gimme a break.
  • ^^^
    Maybe for too long it has been noticed that the low voter turnout in your country required no more than a few polls?
    Voters are coming out in record turnouts - a first in a very long time.

    It was a "cost saving" measure taken by an incompetent official who should kiss her job goodbye.
    That may be true but constantly you guys are always advocating "Get out and Vote"! because the typical lacklustre turnout is frustrating.
    Now a massive turnout is happening and all of a sudden "It's fixed"
    Gimme a break.
    I live here. I saw what happened and the neighborhoods it happened to. I didn't say it was fixed so I don't know who you are quoting. Intentionally or not, they suppressed the vote of a lot of people. A good many of them were in areas full of minorities. I don't know why any of this would be surprising in a city known for violating civil rights.
  • You speak of "they".
    Sorry, not following. Seems the term fixed is used a lot around here to say that voters are being supressed.
    It is a little late to say "where have all the polling stations gone"?


  • Sorry, not following.

    That's surprising!

  • Sorry, not following.

    That's surprising!
    Really?

  • Sorry, not following.

    That's surprising!
    Really?
    No, not really.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562


    Sorry, not following.

    That's surprising!
    Really?
    No, not really.
    :lol:
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited March 2016
    Clinton Claims Victory but Arizona's Voting Fiasco Dubbed "National Disgrace"

    Shuttered polling places, endless lines, and widespread disenfranchisement—particularly for minority communities

    http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/03/23/clinton-claims-victory-arizonas-voting-fiasco-dubbed-national-disgrace
    ... "The Arizona Democratic Party is also investigating reports that numerous Democratic voters were mistakenly identified as "independent" in the voter database, which would exclude them from the closed primary. Many of the misidentified voters were given provisional ballots, which may not have even been counted.

    As the Phoenix New Times reports, "the day was so hectic, that as it became clear Clinton won, Sanders supporter Sheila Ryan said she just couldn’t believe it: 'What about all the provisional ballots? What about all the ballots from [people still in line]? Are those getting counted?'
    Post edited by Free on

  • Sorry, not following.

    That's surprising!
    Really?
    No, not really.
    Who is the "they"?
    Really.
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited March 2016
    http://www.12news.com/mb/news/petitions-for-change-pop-up-after-arizona-primary-voting-fiasco/98226804
    Mad voters in Arizona created several online petitions after issues at Arizona polling locations Tuesday.
    One petition asked the White House to investigate voter fraud and suppression of Democratic voters in Arizona. Voters from both parties called 12 News reporting they were given a provisional ballot.

    READ: 'Democratic' voters got party wrong: county elections chided
    READ: Arizona governor: Long voting lines 'unacceptable'
    READ: 'I screwed up' Recorder says after voting disaster, won't resign
    READ: Whom to contact about voting disaster
    The whitehouse.gov petition was created by "R.C." in Las Vegas, Nevada, the website states. As of this writing, it had 62,064 signatures.
    Whitehouse.gov petitions with 100,000 online signatures get an official response from the White House.
    Most voters in Maricopa County who went to the polls were faced with long lines and waits that exceeded 3 hours in some cases.
    A change.org petition is calling for the impeachment of Maricopa County Recorders Helen Purcell and Karen Osborne. This petition had 1,384 online signatures as of this writing.

    WATCH: Last voters left the downtown Phoenix voting location at 12:19 a.m. Other locations still had voters
    Post edited by Free on
  • Free said:
    Independent voters clog up the lines by showing up (from the clip)
    Gotta love those non-politician guys.

  • Sorry, not following.

    That's surprising!
    Really?
    No, not really.
    Who is the "they"?
    Really.
    C'mon, I tried to have some discourse with you , but you insist on being intentionally obtuse. "They" would be the people making the decision to limit polling places. In this case, the county recorder and the board she convinced to reduce the amount of polling places.

    I also can't speak for anyone else but my girlfriend, a life long registered Democrat, discovered she was listed as a libertarian. Her address was also incorrect despite her changing it with them multiple times since we moved 5 years ago. Regardless of what you think about this whole thing, the process is a fucking mess out here. It would not surprise me if many people were incorrectly assigned to the wrong party. I witnessed it in my own household. She was one of the people clogging up the lines, and her provisional ballot might end up not counting.

  • Sorry, not following.

    That's surprising!
    Really?
    No, not really.
    Who is the "they"?
    Really.
    C'mon, I tried to have some discourse with you , but you insist on being intentionally obtuse. "They" would be the people making the decision to limit polling places. In this case, the county recorder and the board she convinced to reduce the amount of polling places.

    I also can't speak for anyone else but my girlfriend, a life long registered Democrat, discovered she was listed as a libertarian. Her address was also incorrect despite her changing it with them multiple times since we moved 5 years ago. Regardless of what you think about this whole thing, the process is a fucking mess out here. It would not surprise me if many people were incorrectly assigned to the wrong party. I witnessed it in my own household. She was one of the people clogging up the lines, and her provisional ballot might end up not counting.
    Ok. Your country shouts home of the free - we get it.
    Now that discourse aside....

    I don't understand how year after year and knowing as a people there will be an election you guys don't call for election reform.
    Super Tuesdays sound like a gimmick.
    Your gf was assigned to the wrong party? I'm trying here to understand that as a land of the free you have to be choose a party and that it can be changed by others on election day.

  • Sorry, not following.

    That's surprising!
    Really?
    No, not really.
    Who is the "they"?
    Really.
    C'mon, I tried to have some discourse with you , but you insist on being intentionally obtuse. "They" would be the people making the decision to limit polling places. In this case, the county recorder and the board she convinced to reduce the amount of polling places.

    I also can't speak for anyone else but my girlfriend, a life long registered Democrat, discovered she was listed as a libertarian. Her address was also incorrect despite her changing it with them multiple times since we moved 5 years ago. Regardless of what you think about this whole thing, the process is a fucking mess out here. It would not surprise me if many people were incorrectly assigned to the wrong party. I witnessed it in my own household. She was one of the people clogging up the lines, and her provisional ballot might end up not counting.
    Ok. Your country shouts home of the free - we get it.
    Now that discourse aside....

    I don't understand how year after year and knowing as a people there will be an election you guys don't call for election reform.
    Super Tuesdays sound like a gimmick.
    Your gf was assigned to the wrong party? I'm trying here to understand that as a land of the free you have to be choose a party and that it can be changed by others on election day.
    Like you, we are trying to understand it as well. We have never seen anything like it.

    Arizona is a state that requires you to be party affiliated to vote in that party's primary.

  • Sorry, not following.

    That's surprising!
    Really?
    No, not really.
    Who is the "they"?
    Really.
    C'mon, I tried to have some discourse with you , but you insist on being intentionally obtuse. "They" would be the people making the decision to limit polling places. In this case, the county recorder and the board she convinced to reduce the amount of polling places.

    I also can't speak for anyone else but my girlfriend, a life long registered Democrat, discovered she was listed as a libertarian. Her address was also incorrect despite her changing it with them multiple times since we moved 5 years ago. Regardless of what you think about this whole thing, the process is a fucking mess out here. It would not surprise me if many people were incorrectly assigned to the wrong party. I witnessed it in my own household. She was one of the people clogging up the lines, and her provisional ballot might end up not counting.
    Ok. Your country shouts home of the free - we get it.
    Now that discourse aside....

    I don't understand how year after year and knowing as a people there will be an election you guys don't call for election reform.
    Super Tuesdays sound like a gimmick.
    Your gf was assigned to the wrong party? I'm trying here to understand that as a land of the free you have to be choose a party and that it can be changed by others on election day.
    Like you, we are trying to understand it as well. We have never seen anything like it.

    Arizona is a state that requires you to be party affiliated to vote in that party's primary.
    It's been too long that a country, any country is supposed to have a fair election.
    I know it is not your doing but a year of running entwined with voting days that lead up to the actual vote day seems wonky at best.
    Your country has not seen anything like it because people are outraged what might happen.
    Someone woke them up - and I won't say who, because you know.
  • WhatYouTaughtMeWhatYouTaughtMe Posts: 4,957
    edited March 2016


    Sorry, not following.

    That's surprising!
    Really?
    No, not really.
    Who is the "they"?
    Really.
    C'mon, I tried to have some discourse with you , but you insist on being intentionally obtuse. "They" would be the people making the decision to limit polling places. In this case, the county recorder and the board she convinced to reduce the amount of polling places.

    I also can't speak for anyone else but my girlfriend, a life long registered Democrat, discovered she was listed as a libertarian. Her address was also incorrect despite her changing it with them multiple times since we moved 5 years ago. Regardless of what you think about this whole thing, the process is a fucking mess out here. It would not surprise me if many people were incorrectly assigned to the wrong party. I witnessed it in my own household. She was one of the people clogging up the lines, and her provisional ballot might end up not counting.
    Ok. Your country shouts home of the free - we get it.
    Now that discourse aside....

    I don't understand how year after year and knowing as a people there will be an election you guys don't call for election reform.
    Super Tuesdays sound like a gimmick.
    Your gf was assigned to the wrong party? I'm trying here to understand that as a land of the free you have to be choose a party and that it can be changed by others on election day.
    Like you, we are trying to understand it as well. We have never seen anything like it.

    Arizona is a state that requires you to be party affiliated to vote in that party's primary.
    It's been too long that a country, any country is supposed to have a fair election.
    I know it is not your doing but a year of running entwined with voting days that lead up to the actual vote day seems wonky at best.
    Your country has not seen anything like it because people are outraged what might happen.
    Someone woke them up - and I won't say who, because you know.
    You are right and that is what makes this even more frustrating. Record primary turnouts all over the country and Maricopa County reduces the polling places from 200 to 60? There was every indication the trend was going to continue here. Plenty of time to prepare. Basic incompetence at best.
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