the things neil speaks of are important to him.. theyre part of who he is. he talks about energy efficient cars too.. and while i have zero interest in automobiles i understand that neils love of big cars is what brought him to look into alternate fuel for his vehicles. he doesnt want to sacrifice his love so hes doing something about it so he can loive responsibly. hes not preaching hes just telling you his toughts on stuff he feels deep about. he hates how the modern sound of music is being corrupted and kids growing up these days tensd not to know any better cause a lot of the time theyre glued to their i products and whatever the hell else gadget of convenience they listen to their music on. hes trying to figure out a way where the sound quality isnt compromised. cant fault him for that. as for his trains all you really need to know to understand that little obsession is that his son is a big motivation. i love neils ramblings most probably cause i have been known to go off on tangents. stories are as interesting as the person telling them and i find neil youngs method interesting.
yeah, we all know about his son. I knew that going in. But he talks about his trains more than his son. I know it's personal, so that's cool. But I really don't need to hear about his trains if there's nothing interesting to add to the already very public connection. Not trying to be glib, but I'd prefer a 200 page book with meat than a 500 page book of incoherent ramblings. Guess I will have a better idea as I continue on, but I see a lot of skimming in my near future.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
Wow! This book is crap. Sorry. Can someone please tell me if it gets better?
What the he'll is he talking about? Chinese laborers on his home Lionel train set? and he's sober? WTF?
The start sounds like an old man complaining about something that makes no sense. The music isn't the problem? The sound is? The Biebers would disagree. He is a fuckin old man loon. Seems like details to the more interesting parts are left out so he can go on his old man rants.
That said - is it worth continuing, or is the rest more of the same?
couldn't agree more. I got so sick of reading stories about his stupid car (Lincvolt is the worst name for a car I've ever heard) and him pushing his fucking puretone, I was reading up until I got to the chapter about the Hawaiian Costco. Seriously, a chapter devoted to the "unbelievable discovery" of fresh fruit at Costco. Jesus Christ this man is losing his mind. it's like I'm reading about a conversation he had with an old friend over coffee. it's not a book. it's fucking random thoughts born out of boredom/senility.
by the way, I listen to a LOT of music. I listen to it on a good stereo system. I listen in the car. I listen on my iPod. He claims digital files only generate 5% or 15% of the actual music as opposed to puretone? BULLSHIT. It's all about the headphones. I put in my ear buds in the summer, and yeah, the music sounds like it's in a tin can. But I put on my $50 headphones, and my iPod sounds just as good as my $5000 stereo system. his claim is hogwash.
and the new album is also terrible. the guy needs to go back on the weed.
Yep. That's why he sounds like a ranting old man. He's so hip he's out of touch.
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
to be fair, if Ed wrote a book like this, I probably couldn't put it down. I think this book is for big Neil fans, which I'm not. I like some of his music, but with a title like "Waging Heavy Peace", I wrongly assumed it would be heavier fare. I put this in the category of "for big Neil completists only".
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by the way, I listen to a LOT of music. I listen to it on a good stereo system. I listen in the car. I listen on my iPod. He claims digital files only generate 5% or 15% of the actual music as opposed to puretone? BULLSHIT. It's all about the headphones. I put in my ear buds in the summer, and yeah, the music sounds like it's in a tin can. But I put on my $50 headphones, and my iPod sounds just as good as my $5000 stereo system. his claim is hogwash.
His claim is totally valid.
I find the opposite is true. The nicer the system the more obvious that I'm listening to a format that isn't capturing the entire audio field. I don't consider myself an audiophile by any stretch, but the difference in sound quality between you're average mp3 and lossless, cds or vinyl is pretty obvious.
Do I think Neil is kinda crazy to think that the vast majority of people are really concerned with sound quality? Hell yeah!! But I can't blame him for wanting to put out a music format that captures the whole audio spectrum.
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For you guys that are not enjoying Neil's book, I have a suggestion: take it into your local used bookstore and recoup what you can of your losses and get something you will enjoy reading. Someones else out there will be VERY happy to find a more affordable used copy. (Mine was purchased at full retail cover price.)
Hugh, as for Neil sounding like "he's losing his mind", and that his thoughts "born out of ...senility", keep in mind that he probably is losing his mind and that he very much is concerned with senility. His father,the writer Scott Young died of Alzheimer's. Add to that the fact that Neil has had polio, epilepsy, chronic back problems, and a brain aneurism... well, I fell lucky that we still have him around to tell these rambling stories.
But I also ramble... and my mom die from Alzheimer's and I've been a Neil Young fan for 45 years.
Have I laid a big enough guilt trip on you? I'm sorry, man, I truly don't mean to do that. Just sell the book and get something else.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
For you guys that are not enjoying Neil's book, I have a suggestion: take it into your local used bookstore and recoup what you can of your losses and get something you will enjoy reading. Someones else out there will be VERY happy to find a more affordable used copy. (Mine was purchased at full retail cover price.)
Hugh, as for Neil sounding like "he's losing his mind", and that his thoughts "born out of ...senility", keep in mind that he probably is losing his mind and that he very much is concerned with senility. His father,the writer Scott Young died of Alzheimer's. Add to that the fact that Neil has had polio, epilepsy, chronic back problems, and a brain aneurism... well, I fell lucky that we still have him around to tell these rambling stories.
But I also ramble... and my mom die from Alzheimer's and I've been a Neil Young fan for 45 years.
Have I laid a big enough guilt trip on you? I'm sorry, man, I truly don't mean to do that. Just sell the book and get something else.
yes, I know he's aware he's losing his mind. He mentions it enough in his book.
yes, I plan to. a coffee shop that I go to once in a while has this bookshelf.....you can take what you want, but you have to leave something in return. I'm sure someone would appreciate my donation. I found "Eddie Would Go" there last time I was there.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Have I laid a big enough guilt trip on you? I'm sorry, man, I truly don't mean to do that. Just sell the book and get something else.
I don't feel guilty about having an opinion on the writing style of the book. I should have researched it more, that's my fault. But sometimes I like to take a risk with books and music. But I don't apologize for saying I don't like it.
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I admit, I read the first few chapters and gave my copy away to a Neilophile who was thrilled to receive it. What I did read made me feel saddened at his naivety and apathy . I couldn't reconcile the huge inconsistencies (IMO) in his ideals and values. It is more important to support sweatshops in China than to relinquish a brand name of a classic train? I like a little more more social justice and humanism with my environmentalism... but still love his old tunes and pleased that he is living his 'hippie dream'. It probably didn't help that Paul Kelly's Mongrel Memoir 'How to Make Gravy' was still so fresh in my mind. His autobiography is generous - he shares his love of music, and stories from his life and from the road. He describes himself as apolitical but tells a number of stories that clearly demonstrate his love of humanity and social justice. I highly recommend it if you love music, travel, literature... even if you don't know his music
I admit, I read the first few chapters and gave my copy away to a Neilophile who was thrilled to receive it. What I did read made me feel saddened at his naivety and apathy . I couldn't reconcile the huge inconsistencies (IMO) in his ideals and values. It is more important to support sweatshops in China than to relinquish a brand name of a classic train? I like a little more more social justice and humanism with my environmentalism...
this was part of my disappointment too. then I saw him on Letterman and he called himself a "rich hippie", and talked about how he loves to buy stuff. it seemed fairly hypocritical. how about you not buy a new train every week and then you won't have to charge people $250 to see you in concert.
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Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
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Have I laid a big enough guilt trip on you? I'm sorry, man, I truly don't mean to do that. Just sell the book and get something else.
I don't feel guilty about having an opinion on the writing style of the book. I should have researched it more, that's my fault. But sometimes I like to take a risk with books and music. But I don't apologize for saying I don't like it.
I was kidding, Hugh. I don't do guilt. I hope you find something good for your trade.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Have I laid a big enough guilt trip on you? I'm sorry, man, I truly don't mean to do that. Just sell the book and get something else.
I don't feel guilty about having an opinion on the writing style of the book. I should have researched it more, that's my fault. But sometimes I like to take a risk with books and music. But I don't apologize for saying I don't like it.
I was kidding, Hugh. I don't do guilt. I hope you find something good for your trade.
nah, I'm just going to give it away like I said. unless something is worth a lot, it's more satisfying to give it away for free than scoring that $5, you know?
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,071
I don't feel guilty about having an opinion on the writing style of the book. I should have researched it more, that's my fault. But sometimes I like to take a risk with books and music. But I don't apologize for saying I don't like it.
I was kidding, Hugh. I don't do guilt. I hope you find something good for your trade.
nah, I'm just going to give it away like I said. unless something is worth a lot, it's more satisfying to give it away for free than scoring that $5, you know?
Like I said further up this thread somewhere I'm sure I loved the book. It's definitely a but rambly at times but I expected that from reviews I'd read + Neil's a musician not a writer. Anyway I loved it & am hanging out to get shod of some bills & buy my own copy so I can re-read at leisure, marking bits I extra loved. I guess even slow boat shipping's not the cheapest way for me to take your copy off your hands HFD?
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EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
Like I said further up this thread somewhere I'm sure I loved the book. It's definitely a but rambly at times but I expected that from reviews I'd read + Neil's a musician not a writer. Anyway I loved it & am hanging out to get shod of some bills & buy my own copy so I can re-read at leisure, marking bits I extra loved. I guess even slow boat shipping's not the cheapest way for me to take your copy off your hands HFD?
I can take it to the post office and get it weighed and see how much it costs to ship. But it would probably be cheaper if I just paypal you the money to buy your own copy!
Gimli 1993
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Like I said further up this thread somewhere I'm sure I loved the book. It's definitely a but rambly at times but I expected that from reviews I'd read + Neil's a musician not a writer. Anyway I loved it & am hanging out to get shod of some bills & buy my own copy so I can re-read at leisure, marking bits I extra loved. I guess even slow boat shipping's not the cheapest way for me to take your copy off your hands HFD?
I can take it to the post office and get it weighed and see how much it costs to ship. But it would probably be cheaper if I just paypal you the money to buy your own copy!
Haha. True. Yeah, kind of a ridiculous glimmer of an idea on my, part.
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EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
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yeah, we all know about his son. I knew that going in. But he talks about his trains more than his son. I know it's personal, so that's cool. But I really don't need to hear about his trains if there's nothing interesting to add to the already very public connection. Not trying to be glib, but I'd prefer a 200 page book with meat than a 500 page book of incoherent ramblings. Guess I will have a better idea as I continue on, but I see a lot of skimming in my near future.
Yep. That's why he sounds like a ranting old man. He's so hip he's out of touch.
to be fair, if Ed wrote a book like this, I probably couldn't put it down. I think this book is for big Neil fans, which I'm not. I like some of his music, but with a title like "Waging Heavy Peace", I wrongly assumed it would be heavier fare. I put this in the category of "for big Neil completists only".
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
His claim is totally valid.
I find the opposite is true. The nicer the system the more obvious that I'm listening to a format that isn't capturing the entire audio field. I don't consider myself an audiophile by any stretch, but the difference in sound quality between you're average mp3 and lossless, cds or vinyl is pretty obvious.
Do I think Neil is kinda crazy to think that the vast majority of people are really concerned with sound quality? Hell yeah!! But I can't blame him for wanting to put out a music format that captures the whole audio spectrum.
Hugh, as for Neil sounding like "he's losing his mind", and that his thoughts "born out of ...senility", keep in mind that he probably is losing his mind and that he very much is concerned with senility. His father,the writer Scott Young died of Alzheimer's. Add to that the fact that Neil has had polio, epilepsy, chronic back problems, and a brain aneurism... well, I fell lucky that we still have him around to tell these rambling stories.
But I also ramble... and my mom die from Alzheimer's and I've been a Neil Young fan for 45 years.
Have I laid a big enough guilt trip on you?
yes, I know he's aware he's losing his mind. He mentions it enough in his book.
yes, I plan to. a coffee shop that I go to once in a while has this bookshelf.....you can take what you want, but you have to leave something in return. I'm sure someone would appreciate my donation. I found "Eddie Would Go" there last time I was there.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I don't feel guilty about having an opinion on the writing style of the book. I should have researched it more, that's my fault. But sometimes I like to take a risk with books and music. But I don't apologize for saying I don't like it.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
this was part of my disappointment too. then I saw him on Letterman and he called himself a "rich hippie", and talked about how he loves to buy stuff. it seemed fairly hypocritical. how about you not buy a new train every week and then you won't have to charge people $250 to see you in concert.
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
I was kidding, Hugh. I don't do guilt. I hope you find something good for your trade.
nah, I'm just going to give it away like I said. unless something is worth a lot, it's more satisfying to give it away for free than scoring that $5, you know?
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
Absolutely, Hugh! Giving stuff away always feels good! :thumbup:
PJ - Auckland 2009; Alpine Valley1&2 2011; Man1, Am'dam1&2, Berlin1&2, Stockholm, Oslo & Copenhagen 2012; LA, Oakland, Portland, Spokane, Calgary, Vancouver, Seattle 2013; Auckland 2014, Auckland1&2 2024
EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011
I can take it to the post office and get it weighed and see how much it costs to ship. But it would probably be cheaper if I just paypal you the money to buy your own copy!
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
PJ - Auckland 2009; Alpine Valley1&2 2011; Man1, Am'dam1&2, Berlin1&2, Stockholm, Oslo & Copenhagen 2012; LA, Oakland, Portland, Spokane, Calgary, Vancouver, Seattle 2013; Auckland 2014, Auckland1&2 2024
EV - Canberra, Newcastle & Sydney 1&2 2011