Your favorite Horror films

dankind

PJ_Soul said:

Yeah, it doesn't touch the novel.... But I also think that the screenplay stinks. I mean, really, the character development is nil. It makes no sense that Jack Nicholson acts like he's insane literally from the second the movie starts, rather than the hotel making him insane. Wendy is just a simpering wuss the entire movie. Yeah, yeah, she manages to get her kid out of the hotel... seconds before he's literally going to be slaughtered, and out to run around in a blizzard. She knocked Jack unconscious practically by accident, and I swear, the way she holds that bat is so frustrating. Danny really doesn't even play a meaningful part in the story at all, nor does his shining, plus the parent-child relationship is never developed at all. There is no connection made between the hotel and Danny's shining really, and the fact that the women is in the room could just as well have been a haunting completely unrelated to the shining for all anyone who hadn't read the book knew. Halloran plays almost no useful role whatsoever, and clearly the ONLY reason Kubrick kept him in the script at all was so that Wendy had a working vehicle to escape in at the end. He didn't even face any resistance from the hotel itself when returning there. Nothing. Why in the world anything bad at all is going on at the Overlook is never explained in any decent way, and no, I don't think that enough was provided for any worthwhile audience conjecture. And why in the fuck is Jack suddenly in that old photo at the end of the film, in the 20s? The movie doesn't tie that together - it makes no sense. And at the end, the hotel doesn't even kill Jack - that death was just plain old dumb. These are all the reasons I hate that movie.

The hotel in the film does look exactly like I imagined the hotel to look while reading the book though (minus the all-important boiler room of course, and the playground and the topiary.....). And I like the sound that the Big Wheels makes on the floor when Danny rides it around, lol.

I like Kubrick, but not for this pile of crap film, haha.

Omitting all (or most) of this is exactly what makes the film so terrifying. Leaving all of those blanks for the viewer to fill in with whatever horror his/her imagination comes up with is why it’s considered a classic.

The worst part to me is actually the scene in which it gets all explain-y with Scatman telling Danny about the shining. Yeah, thanks for the big footnote in the book of duh. 

PJ_Soul

dankind said:

PJ_Soul said:

Yeah, it doesn't touch the novel.... But I also think that the screenplay stinks. I mean, really, the character development is nil. It makes no sense that Jack Nicholson acts like he's insane literally from the second the movie starts, rather than the hotel making him insane. Wendy is just a simpering wuss the entire movie. Yeah, yeah, she manages to get her kid out of the hotel... seconds before he's literally going to be slaughtered, and out to run around in a blizzard. She knocked Jack unconscious practically by accident, and I swear, the way she holds that bat is so frustrating. Danny really doesn't even play a meaningful part in the story at all, nor does his shining, plus the parent-child relationship is never developed at all. There is no connection made between the hotel and Danny's shining really, and the fact that the women is in the room could just as well have been a haunting completely unrelated to the shining for all anyone who hadn't read the book knew. Halloran plays almost no useful role whatsoever, and clearly the ONLY reason Kubrick kept him in the script at all was so that Wendy had a working vehicle to escape in at the end. He didn't even face any resistance from the hotel itself when returning there. Nothing. Why in the world anything bad at all is going on at the Overlook is never explained in any decent way, and no, I don't think that enough was provided for any worthwhile audience conjecture. And why in the fuck is Jack suddenly in that old photo at the end of the film, in the 20s? The movie doesn't tie that together - it makes no sense. And at the end, the hotel doesn't even kill Jack - that death was just plain old dumb. These are all the reasons I hate that movie.

The hotel in the film does look exactly like I imagined the hotel to look while reading the book though (minus the all-important boiler room of course, and the playground and the topiary.....). And I like the sound that the Big Wheels makes on the floor when Danny rides it around, lol.

I like Kubrick, but not for this pile of crap film, haha.

Omitting all (or most) of this is exactly what makes the film so terrifying. Leaving all of those blanks for the viewer to fill in with whatever horror his/her imagination comes up with is why it’s considered a classic.

The worst part to me is actually the scene in which it gets all explain-y with Scatman telling Danny about the shining. Yeah, thanks for the big footnote in the book of duh. 

Oh yeah, to me it just makes it a bad plot with bad characters. I know exactly what you're getting at, and do think that method has worked very well in many movies... I just don't think it was done well for The Shining at all. It was done outstandingly badly from my perspective. Like, it doesn't just leave room for the viewer to fill in the blanks. It sincerely makes no sense a lot of the time, lol. Of course I do realize I'm in the minority with this opinion. That's okay with me, haha.

hedonist

The Shining scared the bejesus out of me, so much that during a family trip, I refused to stay at a hotel because its hallways reminded me of the film.

Agreed about Crothers' role!

Dr. Delight

Looks like The Wicker Man on crack.

https://youtu.be/nPzq5mAMHPI

Dr. Delight

I find both the movie and novel of The Shining to be fantastic for different reasons.

F Me In The Brain

I love King but think Dankind's remark about the hand holding is spot on.  
The movie is fantastic...and different from the book.  Love them both.

MayDay10

Three From Hell Trailer next week!
https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3565270/rob-zombie-says-trailer-3-hell-coming-next-week/?fbclid=IwAR33dwHbRYTnzNXKHOc_6HLJsMt2BCOll4ckVZsI6rvsBd2otdBz9DrrTuQ


Personally, I think House of 1000 Corpses is a masterpiece for the genre, and Devil's Rejects is even better.  I know people get mad at the 'hillbilly' cheesy horror bit, but that is Rob Zombie's wheelhouse and what he watched growing up, and exactly what he is trying to create.

Spiritual_Chaos

The trailer to the movie "tales to to read in the dark" (or what it is called) was pretty cool... even with the CGI.

eeriepadave

MayDay10 said:

Three From Hell Trailer next week!
https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3565270/rob-zombie-says-trailer-3-hell-coming-next-week/?fbclid=IwAR33dwHbRYTnzNXKHOc_6HLJsMt2BCOll4ckVZsI6rvsBd2otdBz9DrrTuQ


Personally, I think House of 1000 Corpses is a masterpiece for the genre, and Devil's Rejects is even better.  I know people get mad at the 'hillbilly' cheesy horror bit, but that is Rob Zombie's wheelhouse and what he watched growing up, and exactly what he is trying to create.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZJKBBiJl3M

Dr. Delight

That trailer showed next to nothing.

Dr. Delight

Cannot wait.

https://youtu.be/4whRb0sYsH4

PJ_Soul

I haven't even read Dr. Sleep. Is it a good book?

Dr. Delight

PJ_Soul said:

I haven't even read Dr. Sleep. Is it a good book?

Loved it. Read the book before you watch this .
Mike Flannagan is directing this(Occulus, Geralds Game, House on Haunted Hill(Netflix) )

Spiritual_Chaos

Eh.... so Stephen King is now okey with Kubricks film...?

from the trailer this seem to follow Kubricks film specifically and not Kings story

PJ_Soul

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Eh.... so Stephen King is now okey with Kubricks film...?

from the trailer this seem to follow Kubricks film specifically and not Kings story

Obviously Warner Brothers talked him into it. No, SK isn't suddenly okay with Kubrick's garbage movie The Shining, lol (man, I HATE that movie!!). Maybe SK just accepts that a sequel has to be based on the Kubrick version for it to work with the public?

Dr. Delight

I'm pretty sure those clips were used just to let people who weren't aware know that this is the sequel to the Shining.  Kubricks movie being the most well known was the easiest way.

Soul I can't believe your disdain for that movie. Tsk tsk....

PJ_Soul

Dr. Delight said:

I'm pretty sure those clips were used just to let people who weren't aware know that this is the sequel to the Shining.  Kubricks movie being the most well known was the easiest way.

Soul I can't believe your disdain for that movie. Tsk tsk....

It doesn't even make sense!

Spiritual_Chaos

Dr. Delight said:

I'm pretty sure those clips were used just to let people who weren't aware know that this is the sequel to the Shining.  Kubricks movie being the most well known was the easiest way.

Soul I can't believe your disdain for that movie. Tsk tsk....

Still. 

I get that the carpet, blood flowing from elevator and the twins are iconic. 

But still

eeriepadave

Dr. Delight said:

I'm pretty sure those clips were used just to let people who weren't aware know that this is the sequel to the Shining.  Kubricks movie being the most well known was the easiest way.

Soul I can't believe your disdain for that movie. Tsk tsk....

Well she's from Canada, so there's that

PJ_Soul

eeriepadave said:

Dr. Delight said:

I'm pretty sure those clips were used just to let people who weren't aware know that this is the sequel to the Shining.  Kubricks movie being the most well known was the easiest way.

Soul I can't believe your disdain for that movie. Tsk tsk....

Well she's from Canada, so there's that

But speaking of Kubrick, I watched 2001: A Space Odyssey for the first time in years and years the other day (I think it could be classified as horror). Now THAT is a good movie. I'd forgotten how totally sad and chilling the HAL death scene is. Amazing.