it's a simple choice
MN3270
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a vote for obama is a vote to perpetuate the downward spiral in our country. . . . . that is, there is little or no incentive for the millions of free loaders to ever become productive members of society. i know so many hard working people that are struggling more than people collecting government benefits. this administration supports this severely flawed system, which will lead to further generations of free loaders.
let's face it; obama was a media creation to begin with and is more concerned with being a celebrity than he is fixing the problems in this country.
let's face it; obama was a media creation to begin with and is more concerned with being a celebrity than he is fixing the problems in this country.
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that is what a romney vote will get ya..
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I'm so sick and tired of hearing Republicans (a high number of whom are on some form of government assistance that people like ME have to foot the bill for) telling me about the "free loaders" and "moochers" and people asking for a "handout."
A vote for Mitt Romney is a vote for someone whose entire "business" experience has been buying successful companies, bankrupting them and selling the parts to China. Someone who doesn't give half a shit about you and hides his tax returns because - and sorry, but we ALL know this - he is a tax cheat and stole money from YOU.
So you go ahead and vote for the man who changes his policies every couple of days, depending on whom he needs to suck up to or who wrote him the biggest check that week. See where it gets you.
And... sorry... but you deserve this one, too... Let's not forget what happened the LAST time we let idiot Republicans give a chance to a stinking rich idiot plutocrat.
Two more weeks of this... only two more weeks.
Reminds me of a joke, and I can tell this one because my wife told it to me and she's blonde:
Two blondes are in a bar toasting each other.
"Two weeks! Here's to two weeks!"
After three or four rounds of this the bartender finally says, "OK, I have to know. What is it with 'Two weeks?'"
One of the blondes says, "Well, we got a jigsaw puzzle and it say right on the box 'Two to Four Years' and we did it in TWO WEEKS!"
Happy voting, everyone. Two weeks, here's to two weeks.
Aside from the other inflammatory things you have said... your last statement borders on ridiculous.
What if someone said:
let's face it; Romney is a bored, rich, privileged man who wishes to seek the presidency from a dare originating from a heated, post dinner cigar conversation with his cronies one summer evening: "I'll show you how to run this country!"
Wouldn't that be ridiculous?
That said,
Obama = Romney
PJ: 2011-09-03 2011-09-04
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
It's no more inflammatory than other threads and posts I've read in these forums, not to mention some of the replies right here.
Anyway...traffic will be somewhat fucked up here in LA later today; President's going on Leno again :P
I think it was the incendiary comment about "freeloaders" which goes back to that Romney statement about 47% of Americans.
And isn't traffic always fucked up in L.A. ?
And yeah, pretty much always fucked, roadwise.
as well as that there was absolutely nothing factual about his post and that it reeked of the same partisan BS that plagues america ...
Got proof that he isn't?
You know what my "proof" is? we haven't seen any of his tax records before 2009. And that's when the Amnesty was given to Americans who were hiding money in foreign accounts and not paying taxes on it. And if he released his taxes before that, we'd see proof of it.
Why has the IRS not gone after him? Because of the Amnesty given to the Americans who wanted to come clean and not be charged for it.
Does this PROVE it? No. But if you can come up with a better excuse he'd have to just make this issue go away and release even ONE year... I'm all ears.
I agree. And yet, the OP doesn't seem to have a problem with it.
Of course it is. Cheating on Taxes means that the tax revenue you avoided paying would have gone to the deficit... to the national debt... to pay for school lunches and roads and bridges and yes... even that war. Cheating on taxes is absolutely stealing from the citizens.
I made the wrong choice.
I'm having a bit of a battle in my head while thinking about this Hedonist. I think you make a good point but I also think often what is painted are generalizations of thought- like a landscape- which I think is often appropriate. But when individual people are placed in that landscape, it's good to at least give a little more thought to how one wants them portrayed.
I hope I'm not coming across as an artist. That is, as a bullshit artist!
Like I said in another thread earlier, I'm just sick of it already. I get that there's anger, for many valid reasons, but it just seems to perpetuate silly arguments, inconsequential distractions, and some ugliness toward eachother.
It'd be a shame if nothing positive - at the least, seeing things from a different, perhaps unfamiliar view - comes from all this.
I see what you're saying and if something-- if anything- I personally have said here or elsewhere was offensive to you I apologize for that. I have apologized to others here for the same kind of thing. At some time or other almost everyone here has gotten over-heated about a topic they feel strongly about and passions or strong opinions about them take over. Hopefully all of us take time to step back now and then at least long enough to reformulate our words. I use "Preview" a lot but sometimes I'm in a hurry and hit "Submit" (which could also be called "Fail") first instead. We're all learning.
I gotta tell ya, Prince, that this is the same damn argument conspiracy theorists used about Obama not being American. Romney not releasing his tax records does not mean he is automatically a cheat, just like Obama not showing his birth certificate to the world didn't make him a Kenyan.
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Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
(I too use "preview" and then sometimes just get rid of the shit. It's a nice purge - type it out and then......delete! The alternative can be so tiring at times.)
And, on the learning part? Amen. I hope I never stop.
Don't agree with you on that.
The president DID release a birth certificate early on... and the people who couldn't accept that a black man had won pounced on it saying they wanted the "LONG FORM" one. Then when he did release that, they insisted that it was a fake. A bit different.
(and while every presidential candidate has released his returns from 10 years back... no other president has been expected to release his "long form" birth certificate. Different rules for black men?)
Romney has never released a tax return from before 2009.
Now, you're right.. not releasing tax returns doesn't necessarily make him a cheat... although he insisted that he never paid less than 13% and when there was closer scrutiny, it was clear that he had intentionally left out deductions on his 2011 return to keep the number that high (and those amendments will be made after he loses the election, I'm sure).
But it DOES raise a pretty big red flag with me that someone who has foreign accounts in the Cayman Islands and Switzerland and won't release returns before 2009 when the Amnesty was granted to people using foreign tax shelters... that's a few pretty glaring clues that there's something up.
Don't you think?
I get a kick out of this stuff
if Obama wins this election how will my life change ? if Romney wins how will my life change ?...I guess we'll find that out in November and the following four years, we can all speculate what one or the other will do but the honest answer will not be seen until that person gets into office.
Godfather.
yes
work in research, non profit, at colleges, on aid themselves.
The OP's post brings this question to mind.
Our place in life, our daily experiences have a lot to do with our choice
in this election. It is personal. We have something to lose, we think.
Someone here said something to me that truly stuck when I spoke of the role or theory
behind each party. They said it hasn't been like that for the Republicans, the true
'cause' in a very long time.
I went further and thought that can be said about the Democrats also.
Somewhere along the line the parties changed, their goodness was bought out.
Both systems are flawed if they even remain ... still alive.
I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
I think she's trying to point to jobs that are funded or partially funded by the government. calling that "aid".
Fargo 2003
Winnipeg 2005
Winnipeg 2011
St. Paul 2014
What about the people that work building M230 30mm Guns for AH-64 Apache Gunships and get paid by taxpayer Department of Defense contracts. Do they count?
Hail, Hail!!!
just getting at our different places in life makes our choice personal.
The OP got me thinking that and I know having a small
blue collar manufacturing business this is very true for me.
Thanks for clearing that up for me
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government handouts/bailouts to faceless corporations = "incentives"
government funding for human beings = "entitlements"
Corporate subsidies $92B pr year
Tax shelters $58B per year
Reduced Capital Gains Tax $59B per year
Carried Interest Loophole $2B per year
Bank Bailouts $700B (that can be accounted for)
$9 trillion in loans a zero, yes 0% interest
Not to mention the land and resource giveaways and the uber wasteful spending on "defense" "military" and "homeland security".
WHO ARE THE FREELOADERS?