Romney wins debate!

fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
edited October 2012 in A Moving Train
Romney was smart, smooth, focused, patient and presidential. He never interrupted and the president insulted his intelligence a few times and it was very noticable. Romney also won 2 fact checkers so far.....
He was resilient and diligant! Obama on numerous occassions attacked instead of defending his policies, when in fact he should have explained his vision. Obama has not explained his vision for the next 4 years at all. He also has not explained his failed 4 years. No humility on the part of Obama whatsoever! I think Romney took it in stride and won over more women and independents tonight!

He was smiling and comfortable and the President did not look relaxed at all!
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  • I don't think we were watching the same debate.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    I don't think we were watching the same debate.
    same here.

    romney came of as amateur. he did not justify giving the military $2 trillion dollars more that they are not asking for.

    and...


    how can romney win a debate when he took the same positions as obama on so many different issues???
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  • we were! Obama was off his game bro! It was very noticable....many people feel that way!

    Romney was calm, cool, collective and is presidential! The president's answers are very questionable , his choosing of attacks...and such...are very non-presidential!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    perhaps i would have said romney won if i had been wearing THESE!


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  • I don't think we were watching the same debate.
    same here.

    romney came of as amateur. he did not justify giving the military $2 trillion dollars more that they are not asking for.

    and...


    how can romney win a debate when he took the same positions as obama on so many different issues???

    exactly. I said that exact thing in Brian's 270 minutes of silence thread. I was also surprised at how many times Romney stated that "the progress we have been making is good" and "we're heading in the right direction". He might as well have just said "Barry's getting my vote!". :lol:
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  • we were! Obama was off his game bro! It was very noticable....many people feel that way!

    Romney was calm, cool, collective and is presidential! The president's answers are very questionable , his choosing of attacks...and such...are very non-presidential!

    I think you were watching a PVR of the first debate.
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    we were! Obama was off his game bro! It was very noticable....many people feel that way!

    Romney was calm, cool, collective and is presidential! The president's answers are very questionable , his choosing of attacks...and such...are very non-presidential!
    i'm not your bro.

    what specifically was questionable about obama's responses?

    how can you even say that when romney agreed with obama on most of the issues? :fp:
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    the funny thing is world leaders watching tonight's debate will know that obama has been consistent in his positions and that romney has flip flopped all over the place in the last year.
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  • Obama made Romney look like a fool. One notable response from Obama about Romney's criticism about the current state of the Army was something like "well, we don't have as many bayonets and horses as we used to, because it's not 1916 anymore!". :lol:
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    the 1980s called and they want their foreign policy back :lol::lol::lol:
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  • Obama made Romney look like a fool. One notable response from Obama about Romney's criticism about the current state of the Army was something like "well, we don't have as many bayonets and horses as we used to, because it's not 1916 anymore!". :lol:

    Obama doesnt know our military cause Marines still use bayonets! LOL :lol:
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Obama made Romney look like a fool. One notable response from Obama about Romney's criticism about the current state of the Army was something like "well, we don't have as many bayonets and horses as we used to, because it's not 1916 anymore!". :lol:

    Obama doesnt know our military cause Marines still use bayonets! LOL :lol:
    marines do not carry bayonettes into battle...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Obama made Romney look like a fool. One notable response from Obama about Romney's criticism about the current state of the Army was something like "well, we don't have as many bayonets and horses as we used to, because it's not 1916 anymore!". :lol:

    Obama doesnt know our military cause Marines still use bayonets! LOL :lol:

    good lord.
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  • Romney was smart, smooth, focused, patient and presidential. He never interrupted and the president insulted his intelligence a few times and it was very noticable. Romney also won 2 fact checkers so far.....
    He was resilient and diligant! Obama on numerous occassions attacked instead of defending his policies, when in fact he should have explained his vision. Obama has not explained his vision for the next 4 years at all. He also has not explained his failed 4 years. No humility on the part of Obama whatsoever! I think Romney took it in stride and won over more women and independents tonight!

    He was smiling and comfortable and the President did not look relaxed at all!
    I wish there was a smiley stirring a pot. :lol:
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  • ugh. really, are you being sarcastic? romney blek.

  • He was smiling and comfortable and the President did not look relaxed at all!
    ofcourse he isnt relaxed....

    cos he is the President of the U.S.A.

    not just a candidate for the office...
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Obama calls Romney ‘all over the map’ in foreign policy debate


    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obam ... ction.html

    ..President Barack Obama portrayed rival Gov. Mitt Romney as "all over the map" and inexperienced on key national security issues in the third and final debate of the presidential election Monday night in Boca Raton, Fla.

    "I know you haven't been in a position to actually execute foreign policy—but every time you've offered an opinion, you've been wrong," Obama said, referencing Romney's initial support for the Iraq war.

    The president was harshly critical of Romney, who seemed subdued in his counter-punches. Obama landed a few zingers. "The Cold War's been over for 20 years," he said in response to Romney's comment from several months ago that Russia is America's primary geopolitical foe.

    He later said, "Well, Governor, we also have fewer horses and bayonets," in response to Romney's criticism that America has fewer Navy ships than in the past. "We have these things called aircraft carriers, where planes land on them. We have these ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines," he added, a touch of mockery entering his voice.

    Romney frequently pivoted to domestic issues and the economy, including the high number of Americans in poverty, his education record in Massachusetts, and his plans for reducing the deficit.

    On foreign policy, Romney did not criticize how Obama handled the murder of U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens in Libya, a topic he brought up in last week's town hall style debate. Instead, Romney said the Middle East is in "tumult" and "chaos," and suggested Obama's strategy of killing Al Qaeda leaders in drone strikes is not enough to bring stability to the region.

    "We can't kill our way out of this mess," Romney said. "We're going to have to put in place a very comprehensive and robust strategy to help the...the world of Islam and other parts of the world, reject this radical violent extremism, which certainly [is] not on the run."

    Despite the crossfire, the candidates seemed to agree on many key foreign policy issues, including the use of drone strikes to kill people believed to be terrorists, harsh sanctions on Iran, and a strategy of avoiding military involvement in Syria.

    Obama and Romney are statistically tied among voters in the most recent polls, with Romney able to catch up with the president on the strength of his performance in the first debate in Denver. On foreign policy in particular, Obama's lead over Romney, in the double digits only a few months ago, has shrunk to just four points, according to a recent Pew poll.

    Americans considered President Obama the loser in the first debate in Denver by historic margins, and Romney's poll numbers soared after his strong performance there. When the candidates met for a rematch at Hofstra University on Long Island last week, a much more assertive Obama showed up, and snap polls showed he was considered a narrow winner of the night.

    It remains to be seen if this debate will provide a "bounce" for either candidate in the last few weeks of the campaign. Voters overwhelmingly say the economy and jobs are the most important issues for them in this election.

    ...



    why didn't romney bring up the underlined part? is it because he knows he was wrong in that debate??
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  • Just like I said after the first debate... debates seldom really change much. Although this was about as much as a blood bath as the first... maybe even more so.

    That being said... anyone who didn't see Mitt Romney make a complete ass of himself wasn't watching. About 20 minutes in, he started getting twitchy. By the 55 minute mark, he knew he was fucked.

    The only times he actually took a position on anything was when he said "I agree with the president that..." or "The president is right when..."

    We'll see if this changes anything. But Romney had that look of "at least I'll make a few million on that book and speaking engagement tour."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    yep, romney won the debate.... :fp:

    10:14 PM – Today
    Obama Wins Debate, CBS Poll Says
    Uncommitted voters in a CBS instant poll handed President Barack Obama the victory over Mitt Romney in Monday's debate. Of those polled, 53 percent said Obama won, 23 percent said Romney won and 24 percent it was a tie.

    The result is similar to the first debate, when 46 percent of uncommitted voters told CBS that Romney won. The CBS poll showed the second debate was largely a draw.

    Uncommitted voters' trust in both candidates on foreign policy improved during the debate. The percentage believing Romney could handle an international crisis rose three percentage points, from 46 percent pre-debate, to 49 percent post-debate. Obama saw a far more dramatic jump, from 58 percent to 71 percent.

    Post-debate, voters said Obama would do a better job on terrorism, by a 64 percent to 36 percent margin. The two men were equally trusted on China, with 50 percent of uncommitted voters favoring each to deal with the world's most populous nation.

    The CBS News post-debate poll was conducted using the GfK KnowledgePanel, a representative Internet panel, among about 500 uncommitted voters who watched the debate. Uncommitted voters in the CBS poll include those who were either totally undecided before the debate or who were leaning to a candidate, but said they may still change their minds.

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/2 ... -poll-says

    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50133681n
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  • JOEJOEJOEJOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,609
    Romney and the Cardinals both won! :nono:
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    JOEJOEJOE wrote:
    Romney and the Cardinals both won! :nono:
    WHAT??? my cardinals won??? i turned it off when it was 2-0!?!?!


    oh wait....


    i see what you did there....

    :lol:
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  • RFTCRFTC Posts: 723
    obama won, not really that close.

    don't take a 10c members word for it, look at the flash polls, obama won each by a range of 7 to 30 points. then look onward to the spin room;

    'we held our own' was pretty standard gop talking point.

    meanwhile, romney's general agreement w/obama on most policy was annoying, really? and finally, will you please take a position and stick w/it on Afghanistan?

    i will say that i was VERY disappointed that we possibly 50-60% of time was spent on Israel, and Iran. ok, we get it, what about the 99% of the world?, how bout our neighbors to the north/south, and finally what about the indisputable fact of global climate change. fk u moderator for not having the balls to bring that up and possibly let both candidates choke on something both parties have criminally neglected during this campaign.

    end of rant, obama still won! :lol:
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    Obama made Romney look like a fool. One notable response from Obama about Romney's criticism about the current state of the Army was something like "well, we don't have as many bayonets and horses as we used to, because it's not 1916 anymore!". :lol:

    Obama doesnt know our military cause Marines still use bayonets! LOL :lol:
    marines do not carry bayonettes into battle...


    Yes they do. When I deployed to Iraq I was issued a bayonet for my M-16.
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  • Yes they do. When I deployed to Iraq I was issued a bayonet for my M-16.


    US Army dropped bayonet training from boot camp in 2010.
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    Besides being erroneous as all get out this thread's title is missing two things:

    THESE and these !!!

    And please, don't anyone tell me I'm not taking this thread seriously. Of course I'm not. :roll:
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Yeah.

    I was hoping for some kind of good discussion on this.

    Fuck me and my naivete!
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338
    Looked like Romney conceded foreign policy to Obama, he agreed with him on most issues. As to the OP's title.......well, he has a right to an opinion.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    How could anyone watch the debate w/ game 7 of the NLCS on???

    And you call yourselves Americans ...

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  • ZosoZoso Posts: 6,425
    ridiculous thread.. I respect your opinion but Obama smashed him on international policy and rightly so.. Obama was on the attack but everyone expected him to win.
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