I feel like such a sucker, thinking that if would be supplied with COA it would be alright.
Thanks so much for making me aware and I would like your expert opinion again as the guy is offering me a replacement drumhead, it doesn't look much different only for Mike's signature.
If you are able to get a full refund I would strongly urge you to get the cash and not look back.
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
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It's fake because two guys you've never met, on a message board say so? I'd look a little more into it.....Look at your signature from the past, I'll bet it's changed over time. No reason these guys sigs couldn't change.
They told me same thing as 100 Pacer and Arq already did.
Here's hoping your refund goes smoothly.
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
Just thought I would let you know know that the signatures are no good. If you can get your money back I would highly recommend it. Sorry, a lot of people are trying to fake pearl jam stuff as it is a big seller as far as autographs go. Good luck.
Is the seller outright refusing to refund you back the original purchase price?
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
I've have some other signed items which also came with a Certficate but as I'm now aware this doesn't mean anything could I please get your expert opinions on these items. One of them has a lifetime guaranty and I will try and get a refund if you guys thing it isn't genuine.
Sadly the scam artists will never give you your money back. That fake COA is just part of the scam.
At this point I don't think there are any avenues to get your refund, and taking to the internet to expose these thieves is your best bet at some satisfaction.
100Pacer is one of the most qualified members of this club. He knows his stuff.
Check my posts and you can see my history weighing in on fakes.
Please remember I'm not trying to get authentic items of ebay, so please only report when you believe the guys didn't sign this. Thanks again for your help.
These sigs are fake :fp:
"The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
Neil deGrasse Tyson
-Did you pay by credit card? If so, when? Most credit cards will stand behind the buyer if something like this happens, but usually only for about 2 months if I recall, sometimes longer.
-You may want to send a PM to Santos L Halper or Rubysdad and let them know about this, and to issue you an official note from them that it is not legitimate, and that would give you all the ammo you need to say that it is no longer "opinion" that it is a fake, but fact as the band is saying its a fake.
-Armed with the above info from TC, you can approach Ebay and let them know that he is selling many, many, many fraudulent items, and request they suspend his account.
Hope this helps!
ADD 5,200 to the post count you see, thank you.
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*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
Sorry about your fakes. I remember about 7 years ago a buddy's mom bought him a supposedly signed drumhead off ebay for his birthday. She didn't know any better but my friend knew it was fake. I've also seen a few of these floating around the bay over the years. It's too bad, but people will do anything to make money :x :(
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-You may want to send a PM to Santos L Halper or Rubysdad and let them know about this, and to issue you an official note from them that it is not legitimate, and that would give you all the ammo you need to say that it is no longer "opinion" that it is a fake, but fact as the band is saying its a fake.
Hope this helps!
Thanks! Great advice I've sent a PM to Rubysdad.
thats a great idea
I have been watching this thread from afar and was so pissed to see you were screwed.
The guy mentionewd here in the Uk has been knocking out fake crap for years - some of it is so bad I have no idea how he gets away with it and actually finds buyers. I suspect its probably family members of fans who surprise their loved ones for xmas thinking they are getting them something really cool - and never even thinking people would stoop to this level.
hope you get the result on this, i knew the guy would back out of his 'guarantee', if was that confident about it - he'd have no quarms about taking the item back and reselling it - probably for more .....
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If you are able to get a full refund I would strongly urge you to get the cash and not look back.
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
Here's hoping your refund goes smoothly.
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
Is the seller outright refusing to refund you back the original purchase price?
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
These are 100% fake.
Sadly the scam artists will never give you your money back. That fake COA is just part of the scam.
At this point I don't think there are any avenues to get your refund, and taking to the internet to expose these thieves is your best bet at some satisfaction.
100Pacer is one of the most qualified members of this club. He knows his stuff.
Check my posts and you can see my history weighing in on fakes.
Nate
These sigs are fake :fp:
Neil deGrasse Tyson
Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
Fake again...
Neil deGrasse Tyson
Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
-Did you pay by credit card? If so, when? Most credit cards will stand behind the buyer if something like this happens, but usually only for about 2 months if I recall, sometimes longer.
-You may want to send a PM to Santos L Halper or Rubysdad and let them know about this, and to issue you an official note from them that it is not legitimate, and that would give you all the ammo you need to say that it is no longer "opinion" that it is a fake, but fact as the band is saying its a fake.
-Armed with the above info from TC, you can approach Ebay and let them know that he is selling many, many, many fraudulent items, and request they suspend his account.
Hope this helps!
*NYC 9/28/96 *NYC 9/29/96 *NJ 9/8/98 (front row "may i play drums with you")
*MSG 9/10/98 (backstage) *MSG 9/11/98 (backstage)
*Jones Beach 8/23/00 *Jones Beach 8/24/00 *Jones Beach 8/25/00
*Mansfield 8/29/00 *Mansfield 8/30/00 *Nassau 4/30/03 *Nissan VA 7/1/03
*Borgata 10/1/05 *Camden 5/27/06 *Camden 5/28/06 *DC 5/30/06
*VA Beach 6/17/08 *DC 6/22/08 *MSG 6/24/08 (backstage) *MSG 6/25/08
*EV DC 8/17/08 *EV Baltimore 6/15/09 *Philly 10/31/09
*Bristow VA 5/13/10 *MSG 5/20/10 *MSG 5/21/10
thats a great idea
I have been watching this thread from afar and was so pissed to see you were screwed.
The guy mentionewd here in the Uk has been knocking out fake crap for years - some of it is so bad I have no idea how he gets away with it and actually finds buyers. I suspect its probably family members of fans who surprise their loved ones for xmas thinking they are getting them something really cool - and never even thinking people would stoop to this level.
hope you get the result on this, i knew the guy would back out of his 'guarantee', if was that confident about it - he'd have no quarms about taking the item back and reselling it - probably for more .....
good luck