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  • LukinFan
    LukinFan Florida Posts: 29,121
    100 Pacer wrote:
    tommy t wrote:
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    OK Guys, here is the certificate of authenticity and they played a concert at the Times Forum Tampa that night.
    To me it all seems very legit, I can't hardly go back to the guy I bought it from and tell him some people on the PJ forum telling me it looks fake.

    Unfortunately that certificate isn't worth the ink used to print it up.

    You mentioned earlier in the thread that you were promised a full refund if you ever found out the signatures were fakes. Since you're looking to get back the amount you spent on this piece, why not just do that?
    Damn good idea.
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  • tommy t
    tommy t Posts: 31
    Thanks Guys, your help means a lot, I'll definitly go back and keep you posted on the progress.
  • tommy t
    tommy t Posts: 31
    I've have some other signed items which also came with a Certficate but as I'm now aware this doesn't mean anything could I please get your expert opinions on these items. One of them has a lifetime guaranty and I will try and get a refund if you guys thing it isn't genuine.

    Thanks Guys!

    http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n179/tomkroon/Signatures/
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,329
    tommy t wrote:
    I've have some other signed items which also came with a Certficate but as I'm now aware this doesn't mean anything could I please get your expert opinions on these items. One of them has a lifetime guaranty and I will try and get a refund if you guys thing it isn't genuine.

    Thanks Guys!

    http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n179/tomkroon/Signatures/

    More fake signatures I'm afraid.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • Umbertotamba
    Umbertotamba Posts: 1,385
    I am far from an authenticator but Mike's signature looks way off, unless like Ed his signature has changed over the years. Both of the 2 signatures I have of Mike's were after Backspacer.

    Anyways looks like a cool piece
    Springfield MA 94, Hartford CT 96
  • tommy t
    tommy t Posts: 31
    I feel like such a sucker, thinking that if would be supplied with COA it would be alright.
    Thanks so much for making me aware and I would like your expert opinion again as the guy is offering me a replacement drumhead, it doesn't look much different only for Mike's signature.
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  • tommy t wrote:
    I feel like such a sucker, thinking that if would be supplied with COA it would be alright.
    Thanks so much for making me aware and I would like your expert opinion again as the guy is offering me a replacement drumhead, it doesn't look much different only for Mike's signature.
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    It's fake because two guys you've never met, on a message board say so? I'd look a little more into it.....Look at your signature from the past, I'll bet it's changed over time. No reason these guys sigs couldn't change.
  • arq
    arq Posts: 8,101
    tommy t wrote:
    I feel like such a sucker, thinking that if would be supplied with COA it would be alright.
    Thanks so much for making me aware and I would like your expert opinion again as the guy is offering me a replacement drumhead, it doesn't look much different only for Mike's signature.
    427109428_o.jpg

    Fake too, he doesn't want to lose his money :evil:
    "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it"
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    Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
  • tommy t wrote:
    I feel like such a sucker, thinking that if would be supplied with COA it would be alright.
    Thanks so much for making me aware and I would like your expert opinion again as the guy is offering me a replacement drumhead, it doesn't look much different only for Mike's signature.

    curious as to his explanation or even how that conversation even went...

    "oh, yeah...so you have good reason to believe its fake? oh, ok...well, i can see that, no argument from me!....but wait, take a look at this one here...now, this one's legit! how about we just swap out?"

    did you ask how even came across these sigs? or how the authentication process goes (how they determine what gets a COA)? do they employ autograph hounds or obtain them themselves?
  • Umbertotamba
    Umbertotamba Posts: 1,385
    tommy t wrote:
    I feel like such a sucker, thinking that if would be supplied with COA it would be alright.
    Thanks so much for making me aware and I would like your expert opinion again as the guy is offering me a replacement drumhead, it doesn't look much different only for Mike's signature.
    427109428_o.jpg
    It's fake because two guys you've never met, on a message board say so? I'd look a little more into it.....Look at your signature from the past, I'll bet it's changed over time. No reason these guys sigs couldn't change.

    I am not saying I am an expert, just stating my opinion. I recieved one of my signed pieces from Easy Street records from the RSD performance with Star Anna & Mike McCready, as well as the second piece being a signed Backspacer I got througha donation to CCFA which Mike donated 50 signed copies. I will point out the big difference I see. The McCready part of the signature goes up and down 9 times from the starting point but on the 2 I got they only go up and down 6 times from the starting point. Yes signatures can change styles but that looks like someone attempted to copy it. Also the wave just doesn't look right to me.

    I would also ask myself if someone was willing to switch them out like that they must not have been to sure about the signatures " they them self obtained" Just sounds fishy to me.
    Springfield MA 94, Hartford CT 96
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,329
    tommy t wrote:
    I feel like such a sucker, thinking that if would be supplied with COA it would be alright.
    Thanks so much for making me aware and I would like your expert opinion again as the guy is offering me a replacement drumhead, it doesn't look much different only for Mike's signature.
    427109428_o.jpg

    If you are able to get a full refund I would strongly urge you to get the cash and not look back.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • tommy t
    tommy t Posts: 31
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,329
    tommy t wrote:
    It's fake because two guys you've never met, on a message board say so? I'd look a little more into it.....Look at your signature from the past, I'll bet it's changed over time. No reason these guys sigs couldn't change.

    I haven't just been going with the board, I've actually found this website:
    FREE AUTHENTICATION OF YOUR MEMORABILIA: http://www.authenticatemyautographs.info

    They told me same thing as 100 Pacer and Arq already did.

    Here's hoping your refund goes smoothly.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • Just thought I would let you know know that the signatures are no good. If you can get your money back I would highly recommend it. Sorry, a lot of people are trying to fake pearl jam stuff as it is a big seller as far as autographs go. Good luck.
    Pjdreamer
  • tommy t
    tommy t Posts: 31
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,329
    tommy t wrote:
    Hi guys,

    Like to request your help, as I've been unsuccesfull in getting my refund or even trying to have it authenticated on my own expense if I was proven to be wrong. Let's at least try and stop this guy for selling more crap. If you have an ebay account and think the autographes are not genuine please help in reporting this guy.
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PEARL-JAM-FULLY-SIGNED-FRAMED-DRUMHEAD-COA-RARE-/200514348826?pt=AU_MusicMemorabilia&hash=item2eaf96271a
    Thanks,

    TommyT

    Is the seller outright refusing to refund you back the original purchase price?
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
  • tommy t
    tommy t Posts: 31
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  • Wilds
    Wilds Posts: 4,329
    tommy t wrote:
    I've have some other signed items which also came with a Certficate but as I'm now aware this doesn't mean anything could I please get your expert opinions on these items. One of them has a lifetime guaranty and I will try and get a refund if you guys thing it isn't genuine.

    Thanks Guys!

    http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n179/tomkroon/Signatures/


    These are 100% fake.

    Sadly the scam artists will never give you your money back. That fake COA is just part of the scam.

    At this point I don't think there are any avenues to get your refund, and taking to the internet to expose these thieves is your best bet at some satisfaction.

    100Pacer is one of the most qualified members of this club. He knows his stuff.

    Check my posts and you can see my history weighing in on fakes.


    Nate
  • tommy t
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