Hmmm Al Quaida almost got us!

pandora

fear4freedom wrote:

America has many scars but the world is much brighter due to America and her ideals! We are PART of the solution, not PART of the problem!
The reason they hate us is not because of our borders and geographics.....its because of our ideals and our freedoms and principles! You get to enjoy our freedoms so you should take an extra step in appreciation for our country!

This is really a beautiful sentiment. It is uplifting, positive, patriotic ...
and courageous ...
considering the thoughts and feelings of most of the posters here.

I'm glad you shared your heartfelt words, it should remind us of what we have
but also what we can be.

gimmesometruth27

pandora wrote:

fear4freedom wrote:

America has many scars but the world is much brighter due to America and her ideals! We are PART of the solution, not PART of the problem!
The reason they hate us is not because of our borders and geographics.....its because of our ideals and our freedoms and principles! You get to enjoy our freedoms so you should take an extra step in appreciation for our country!

This is really a beautiful sentiment. It is uplifting, positive, patriotic ...
and courageous ...
considering the thoughts and feelings of most of the posters here.

I'm glad you shared your heartfelt words, it should remind us of what we have
but also what we can be.

:roll: :roll: :roll:




:fp:

gimmesometruth27

Drowned Out wrote:

I'm thankful there are Americans like you, Brian, and others on this board to counter this nonsense....it's not the same coming from someone from another country.

yeah i don't even know why i or anyone else bothers. clearly i am in the minority in america, and it is a shame....

i am sure he read that and has not come back since. i asked him 9 or so direct questions in another thread that i am waiting to be responded to as well... guess i shouldn't hold my breath for that...

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=197562

redrock

badbrains wrote:

fear4freedom wrote

America has many scars but the world is much brighter due to America and her ideals! We are PART of the solution, not PART of the problem!
The reason they hate us is not because of our borders and geographics.....its because of our ideals and our freedoms and principles! You get to enjoy our freedoms so you should take an extra step in appreciation for our country!

:fp:

It could be seen as funny/sarcastic if the guy didn't actually believe this. But he does.. Reality check is needed.

Where is that thread about how America is seen by 'others'? Things that some american remain blissfully unaware, or maybe rather choose to ignore and would rather wallow in some weird 'patriotic' muck.

Note that I have absolutely nothing against patriotism. This is a good thing. But patriotism does not mean being blind. One will love one's partner but also see the 'lesser' sides of this partner - does not mean love is less strong, on the contrary. Same with patriotism - be real.

pandora

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

pandora wrote:

fear4freedom wrote:

America has many scars but the world is much brighter due to America and her ideals! We are PART of the solution, not PART of the problem!
The reason they hate us is not because of our borders and geographics.....its because of our ideals and our freedoms and principles! You get to enjoy our freedoms so you should take an extra step in appreciation for our country!

This is really a beautiful sentiment. It is uplifting, positive, patriotic ...
and courageous ...
considering the thoughts and feelings of most of the posters here.

I'm glad you shared your heartfelt words, it should remind us of what we have
but also what we can be.

:roll: :roll: :roll:




:fp:

thanks for proving my point

pandora

redrock wrote:

badbrains wrote:

fear4freedom wrote

America has many scars but the world is much brighter due to America and her ideals! We are PART of the solution, not PART of the problem!
The reason they hate us is not because of our borders and geographics.....its because of our ideals and our freedoms and principles! You get to enjoy our freedoms so you should take an extra step in appreciation for our country!

:fp:

It could be seen as funny/sarcastic if the guy didn't actually believe this. But he does.. Reality check is needed.

Where is that thread about how America is seen by 'others'? Things that some american remain blissfully unaware, or maybe rather choose to ignore and would rather wallow in some weird 'patriotic' muck.

Note that I have absolutely nothing against patriotism. This is a good thing. But patriotism does not mean being blind. One will love one's partner but also see the 'lesser' sides of this partner - does not mean love is less strong, on the contrary. Same with patriotism - be real.

This poster celebrates their country. Wonder why that bothers so many here
I'll raise my glass to the post!

You do know how Europe appears to some people and if you aren't perfect
maybe no stones?

Yes seeing the lesser sides of others...
some seem to be afflicted with that. Something to be said for optimistic love
People do what is expected of them.

gimmesometruth27

pandora wrote:

thanks for proving my point

point being?


i thought the point of the thread was that it is outrageous that we stopped a terrorist attack?

i tried to explain why we are hated, but apparently, as usual, that point is lost on a lot of americans...

redrock

pandora wrote:

You do know how Europe appears to some people...

Of course I do.. remember where I'm from?????

And Europe..... so many different countries, all individual with different 'lesser sides'. Though I do understand that for many americans 'Europe' seems to be one country (or maybe lots of little ones but the same...)

Hugh Freaking Dillon

pandora wrote:

fear4freedom wrote:

America has many scars but the world is much brighter due to America and her ideals! We are PART of the solution, not PART of the problem!
The reason they hate us is not because of our borders and geographics.....its because of our ideals and our freedoms and principles! You get to enjoy our freedoms so you should take an extra step in appreciation for our country!

This is really a beautiful sentiment. It is uplifting, positive, patriotic ...
and courageous ...
considering the thoughts and feelings of most of the posters here.

I'm glad you shared your heartfelt words, it should remind us of what we have
but also what we can be.

both of you are out of your minds. a beautiful sentiment that the world is much better for america's ideals? SERIOUSLY? ask how many casualties and families of those casualties, INNOCENT CIVILIANS, IN MY MILLIONS, IN THE FUCKING MILLIONS, believe they are better off because of america's "ideals".

what a load of blinded patriotic garbage.

Hugh Freaking Dillon

pandora wrote:

This poster celebrates their country. Wonder why that bothers so many here
I'll raise my glass to the post!

You do know how Europe appears to some people and if you aren't perfect
maybe no stones?

Yes seeing the lesser sides of others...
some seem to be afflicted with that. Something to be said for optimistic love
People do what is expected of them.

because he's celebrating the westernization of the globe. that's not loving your country. that's hating every other one.

gimmesometruth27

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

pandora wrote:

This poster celebrates their country. Wonder why that bothers so many here
I'll raise my glass to the post!

You do know how Europe appears to some people and if you aren't perfect
maybe no stones?

Yes seeing the lesser sides of others...
some seem to be afflicted with that. Something to be said for optimistic love
People do what is expected of them.

because he's celebrating the westernization of the globe. that's not loving your country. that's hating every other one.

excellently stated my good man!

whygohome

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

fear4freedom wrote:

America has many scars but the world is much brighter due to America and her ideals! We are PART of the solution, not PART of the problem!
The reason they hate us is not because of our borders and geographics.....its because of our ideals and our freedoms and principles! You get to enjoy our freedoms so you should take an extra step in appreciation for our country!

this is the biggest load of infantile, jingoism that i have read on here in a long time. the world is not that simplistic!!

i am pretty sure that they hate us for meddling in other countries' affairs. not because, as bush so infamously put it, of our freedom and ideals :fp:

osama bin laden told you why america was hated. the palestinians tell you why america is hated. the iranians tell you why america is hated. the iraqis and afghans and saudis tell you why america is hated. the russians tell you why america is hated. do you listen? no. because if you did you would not type things like your above post.

i expect better of my country. i expect it to be the great country that it claims to be and tells the rest of the world that it is. i expect it to do what it says it is going to do. when it does that i appreciate it. when it doesn't, i criticize it.

+1,000,000,000

That post seems like it was written by a 9 year old reading a Texas elementary school history textbook. Who would post such childish, callow rhetoric?

(Looks up, sees "fear4....")

Oh.....now I understand.

badbrains

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

pandora wrote:

fear4freedom wrote:

America has many scars but the world is much brighter due to America and her ideals! We are PART of the solution, not PART of the problem!
The reason they hate us is not because of our borders and geographics.....its because of our ideals and our freedoms and principles! You get to enjoy our freedoms so you should take an extra step in appreciation for our country!

This is really a beautiful sentiment. It is uplifting, positive, patriotic ...
and courageous ...
considering the thoughts and feelings of most of the posters here.

I'm glad you shared your heartfelt words, it should remind us of what we have
but also what we can be.

both of you are out of your minds. a beautiful sentiment that the world is much better for america's ideals? SERIOUSLY? ask how many casualties and families of those casualties, INNOCENT CIVILIANS, IN MY MILLIONS, IN THE FUCKING MILLIONS, believe they are better off because of america's "ideals".

what a load of blinded patriotic garbage.

This post DESERVES A WOOT!!!!!!!! EMOTICON!!!!!!!

Prince Of Dorkness

Hugh Freaking Dillon wrote:

because he's celebrating the westernization of the globe. that's not loving your country. that's hating every other one.

From the people who "protected marriage" by attacking mine.

It's when Republicans say stupid shit like that that I know we really are doomed.