Hmmm Al Quaida almost got us!

fear4freedomfear4freedom Posts: 920
edited October 2012 in A Moving Train
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/terror- ... o-custody/

If I were Obama I would start attending the security breeding a each day
Theres no time like the present

A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

All people need to do more on every level!
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    edited October 2012
    my suspicious mind tells me something is afoul
    they say sting I'm wondering bait ...

    great publicity for the current powers that be
    it's how my mind works...

    edit Hastiness had my spelling wrong and therefore changes meaning ...
    so sorry
    Post edited by pandora on
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Security "breeding"?

    A fowl?

    C'mon, you two! ;)

    But yes, some serious shit could've gone down yesterday. I'm thankful for those who helped to prevent it.

    And to think this kid is only 21. Wow.
  • pandora wrote:
    my suspicious mind tells me something is a fowl...
    they say sting I'm wondering bait ...

    great publicity for the current powers that be
    it's how my mind works...

    Yes that thought definately crossed my mind, however I dont put anything past our enemies which are very strong, crazy and equipped on all levels. I dont want to be conspiratorial cause that could lead us to be blind in many cases. It does look good for Obama that we captured the guy, but it also looks bad for Obama for seeming inept and blind to the threat of TERRORISM. This is a fair analysis and we must take politics out of the equation when we are investigating threats against us such as this one. If this were carried out, today could have been a tragic day for America and the world! If you see something.....say something!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    pandora wrote:
    my suspicious mind tells me something is a fowl...
    they say sting I'm wondering bait ...

    great publicity for the current powers that be
    it's how my mind works...

    Yes that thought definately crossed my mind, however I dont put anything past our enemies which are very strong, crazy and equipped on all levels. I dont want to be conspiratorial cause that could lead us to be blind in many cases. It does look good for Obama that we captured the guy, but it also looks bad for Obama for seeming inept and blind to the threat of TERRORISM. This is a fair analysis and we must take politics out of the equation when we are investigating threats against us such as this one. If this were carried out, today could have been a tragic day for America and the world! If you see something.....say something!
    I agree
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    So it looks bad when he STOPPED the terrorist?

    THen how bad did it look for Bush when he didn't?
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  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    "We failed to stop them!"
    *conspiracy!*

    "We stopped 'em!"
    *conspiracy!*

    How about: job well done this time. This had nothing to do with the presidential race.

    :roll:
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    So it looks bad when he STOPPED the terrorist?

    THen how bad did it look for Bush when he didn't?
    Whenever a terrorist is stopped it looks good for the current administration
    or powers that be

    and not so good like Libya when they don't stop a terrorist or admit to one.

    My thought was the process on how he was caught.
    I questioned sting as compared to bait ...
    just my suspicious mind, I'm sure.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    BinFrog wrote:
    "We failed to stop them!"
    *conspiracy!*

    "We stopped 'em!"
    *conspiracy!*

    How about: job well done this time. This had nothing to do with the presidential race.

    :roll:
    i completely agree.

    some people you just can't please...
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    So it looks bad when he STOPPED the terrorist?

    THen how bad did it look for Bush when he didn't?
    :think:
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pandora wrote:
    my suspicious mind tells me something is afoul
    they say sting I'm wondering bait ...

    great publicity for the current powers that be
    it's how my mind works...

    edit Hastiness had my spelling wrong and therefore changes meaning ...
    so sorry

    You should just stop the charade and come out and say how much you disapprove of Obama and the 'current powers'! What's the harm in that?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • So it looks bad when he STOPPED the terrorist?

    THen how bad did it look for Bush when he didn't?


    you dont understand! It looks good that he stopped it! It looks bad that Obama has been pitching that "Al Queda is on its heels" and portraying that the war on terror is on the downside.....cause guess what....reality is that the war on terror is just in the beginning stages and may NEVER end! Got it?
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • BinFrog wrote:
    "We failed to stop them!"
    *conspiracy!*

    "We stopped 'em!"
    *conspiracy!*

    How about: job well done this time. This had nothing to do with the presidential race.

    :roll:
    i completely agree.

    some people you just can't please...
    It didnt take long for you libs to take this out of context and turn it political did it? LOL
    Figure out why?
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    edited October 2012
    BinFrog wrote:
    "We failed to stop them!"
    *conspiracy!*

    "We stopped 'em!"
    *conspiracy!*

    How about: job well done this time. This had nothing to do with the presidential race.

    :roll:
    i completely agree.

    some people you just can't please...
    It didnt take long for you libs to take this out of context and turn it political did it? LOL
    Figure out why?

    I don't see anything political in this post - on the contrary.

    Turn it political? Hmmm.... first couple of posts/exchanges by a couple of posters (to include OP) have already set that tone....
    Post edited by redrock on
  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    It didnt take long for you libs to take this out of context and turn it political did it? LOL
    Figure out why?


    what do we win for making someone use the term "lib"?
    Bright eyed kid: "Wow Typo Man, you're the best!"
    Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Honestly, I doubt (and really don't care if) it was bait.

    And even if it was?

    The motherfucker bit, with the intent of catastrophe.

    His mindset wasn't created by those who took him down, it was already there.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,409
    I'm always glad when horrible acts are prevented but when I hear this kind of thing my first thought is "I refuse to get caught up in the fear and paranoia." Sure, it's true- proverbially speaking, the sky may very well fall but do I really want to spend everyday worrying about it? Not me, I've got things to do.
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  • Too bad this punk won't get the death penalty it costs 65k per year to house one of these fuckers at a supermaxx prison so if this piece of shit lives 50 years taxpayers will be on the hook for 3.25 mm and that's before inflation kicks in.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Well, considering this is "Shake-Out Day" here in Cali, fear and paranoia are hovering about!

    Of course one shouldn't live with the dreading of this place being flushed away; for me, it's a possibility but am I going to focus on that?

    Nope - I'm aware that shit can go down anywhere, anytime...natural, man-made, whatever.

    So yeah.

    Makes much more sense....yadda yadda ;)

    *edit - I'm with you on that sentiment, Mr. Bombers.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    'Stings' can sometimes be quite dubious:

    "The federal case was the latest where a terrorism plot against the city turned out to be a sting operation.

    Four men were convicted in 2009 in a plot to bomb synagogues and shoot down military planes with missiles - a case that began after an FBI informant was assigned to infiltrate a mosque in Newburgh, about 70 miles north of New York City. The federal judge hearing the case said she was not proud of the government's role in nurturing the plot.

    In 2004, a Pakistani immigrant was arrested and convicted for a scheme to blow up the subway station at Herald Square in Midtown. His lawyers argued that their client had been set up by a police informant who showed him pictures of Iraq abuse to get him involved in an attack against civilians."


    Whilst I do not condone any terrorist activity whatsoever, one can question how many of these operations are enabled by the undercover agents, almost egging the 'would be' terrorist on? Those that may 'talk the talk' but, in normal circumstances (ie not enabled), would never 'walk the walk' - having maybe the 'impluse' but not the knowledge or the resolve do carry out such an act unless it were 'spoon fed' to them. Someone wanting to do harm but unable to bring his/her 'ideas' to fruition. Also, it would seem that for this guy, there is no evidence of him being in contact, directed or trained by al Qaida - at least for the moment.
  • whygohomewhygohome Posts: 2,305
    BinFrog wrote:
    "We failed to stop them!"
    *conspiracy!*

    "We stopped 'em!"
    *conspiracy!*

    How about: job well done this time. This had nothing to do with the presidential race.

    :roll:
    i completely agree.

    some people you just can't please...
    It didnt take long for you libs to take this out of context and turn it political did it? LOL
    Figure out why?

    Once again, common sense escapes you. It must be really comfortable and cozy living in that bubble. (Or should I say, narrow-minded, ideological prison?)
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    is there any evidence out there that this was al qaeda?
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    BinFrog wrote:
    "We failed to stop them!"
    *conspiracy!*

    "We stopped 'em!"
    *conspiracy!*

    How about: job well done this time. This had nothing to do with the presidential race.

    :roll:
    i completely agree.

    some people you just can't please...
    It didnt take long for you libs to take this out of context and turn it political did it? LOL
    Figure out why?
    what is it exactly that you are complaining about? should he have been allowed to blow it up?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    I think much is political now cause many are watching and deciding
    and that can be influenced by what's in the news.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    polaris_x wrote:
    is there any evidence out there that this was al qaeda?


    At the moment, it's not clear. It would seem from the sting operation and the guy's questions that he was 'independent' without any contacts and the thought he had made contact with an al Qaeda operative when meeting with the undercover agent.

    ""The thing that I want to do, ask you about, is that, the thing I'm doing, it's under al Qaida?" he was recorded saying during a meeting in a bugged hotel room in Queens, according to the complaint."

    But only time will tell.
  • polaris_x wrote:
    is there any evidence out there that this was al qaeda?


    Al Queda is like America.....its an idea....the idea that is totalitarian and the rule of law is Sharia. The Caliphate is the pursuit and Jihad is the goal! Whether or not this terrorist was technically on the payroll of Al Queda does not matter.....its all inspired by their ideology! Hes a terrorist and influenced and inspired by Al Queda!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    ...
    Wait... I'm a little bit confused here...
    Are you upset that they stopped him from blowing that shit up?
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    If he asked the agent that about al-Qaeda ...
    I'm thinking notoriety was the plan, making his buds proud.

    I guess his accomplice they got on child porn on his personal computer :?
    that's strange that's what he is charged with.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    polaris_x wrote:
    is there any evidence out there that this was al qaeda?


    Al Queda is like America.....its an idea....the idea that is totalitarian and the rule of law is Sharia. The Caliphate is the pursuit and Jihad is the goal! Whether or not this terrorist was technically on the payroll of Al Queda does not matter.....its all inspired by their ideology! Hes a terrorist and influenced and inspired by Al Queda!
    i am pretty sure that the continent of north america is a real thing and not just an idea. i am pretty sure that the actual land that comprises "america" within our borders is a real thing.

    there are many "ideas" of what america is. my idea of america certainly is not the same idea that you subscribe to. i am critical of my country when it deserves it.....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • polaris_x wrote:
    is there any evidence out there that this was al qaeda?


    Al Queda is like America.....its an idea....the idea that is totalitarian and the rule of law is Sharia. The Caliphate is the pursuit and Jihad is the goal! Whether or not this terrorist was technically on the payroll of Al Queda does not matter.....its all inspired by their ideology! Hes a terrorist and influenced and inspired by Al Queda!
    i am pretty sure that the continent of north america is a real thing and not just an idea. i am pretty sure that the actual land that comprises "america" within our borders is a real thing.

    there are many "ideas" of what america is. my idea of america certainly is not the same idea that you subscribe to. i am critical of my country when it deserves it.....

    America has many scars but the world is much brighter due to America and her ideals! We are PART of the solution, not PART of the problem!
    The reason they hate us is not because of our borders and geographics.....its because of our ideals and our freedoms and principles! You get to enjoy our freedoms so you should take an extra step in appreciation for our country!
    Theres no time like the present

    A man that stands for nothing....will fall for anything!

    All people need to do more on every level!
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    America has many scars but the world is much brighter due to America and her ideals! We are PART of the solution, not PART of the problem!
    The reason they hate us is not because of our borders and geographics.....its because of our ideals and our freedoms and principles! You get to enjoy our freedoms so you should take an extra step in appreciation for our country!
    this is the biggest load of infantile, jingoism that i have read on here in a long time. the world is not that simplistic!!

    i am pretty sure that they hate us for meddling in other countries' affairs. not because, as bush so infamously put it, of our freedom and ideals :fp:

    osama bin laden told you why america was hated. the palestinians tell you why america is hated. the iranians tell you why america is hated. the iraqis and afghans and saudis tell you why america is hated. the russians tell you why america is hated. do you listen? no. because if you did you would not type things like your above post.

    i expect better of my country. i expect it to be the great country that it claims to be and tells the rest of the world that it is. i expect it to do what it says it is going to do. when it does that i appreciate it. when it doesn't, i criticize it.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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