Surge in support for Romney!!!!

whygohome

BamaPJFan wrote:

whygohome wrote:

BamaPJFan wrote:

I know a lot of nervous small business owners - from a guy who owns a small advertising firm to a friend who's a solo, private practice pediatrician. They are very worried at what a second Obama term will do to their businesses. I've also spoken with a cancer doctor who said that ObamaCare is already hurting her employer's practice and things will only get worse for Medicare patients when the healthcare-provider reimbursement cuts go into full effect over the next two years. Fewer and fewer Medicare recipients will be able to access medical care as a result of doctors not accepting Medicare patients. This is a scary time indeed and folks who don't see it apparently have their heads in the sand.

The small business owners should thank Wall St., the subprime mortgage crisis, and bankers for the uncertainty in the economy. Those who almost destroyed this economy are still doing as well as ever. The problem? 93% of the post-recession earnings/revenue has gone to the top 1% (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/0 ... 21008.html). Banks and large corporations have trillions of dollars on the sidelines, the companies that got the bulk of TARP funds are not hiring; instead, they are making record profits and laying people off. They are as anti-American as you can get and they don't have an ounce of patriotism in their blood.

The right wing propaganda machine will try to convince people that it is all the fault of big-bad government and a socialist, anti american, anti business President. Let's think about that: the President of the U.S. is anti-business. It is quite silly; but, the idiots who listen to Limbaugh or O'Reilly or Hannity buy into it b/c it reinforces their own narrow-minded, uninformed ideologies and prejudices.

As for the cancer doctor you know, I would love to speak with him/her directly. I just saw a friend of mine's father at a wedding in Philly. He is a soon to be retired general physician and says the opposite of what your cancer doctor says.
Doctors not accepting Medicare is part of the problem. Doctors deserve big paychecks, but their job is care, not testing.

Doctors who run their own small shops will be the ones most adversely affected by the cuts in Medicare reimbursements because they will struggle to pay their overhead. Big hospitals will still be affected, but they will not have the hard hits that solo practitioners/small practice phyisicans will. Doctors who are on the payroll of large hospitals and large clinics will be insulated from the Medicare cuts to a much larger degee because they aren't as dependent on Medicare. A poll was just released two weeks ago, prior to the second debate, that showed that well over 50% of American phyisicians support Romney. The medical profession is really at a big crossroads right now with this new healthcare legislation.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/01/surve ... over-obama

I refuse to click on a link to The Daily Caller. Sorry.

The cuts in reimbursements are offset by the reductions in cost of overcharges by big pharma, ins. companies, etc. The best part of ACA is that it requires insurance companies to use 80% of all patient premiums for care, not for executive pay, marketing, etc. Cuts are not the same as savings.

The problem with the system can be summed up in one experience:
My brother in law is in Wealth Management with Merrill Lynch. One of his biggest clients is a diabetes specialist in NJ. The doctor put it plainly: I get paid to test people, not to treat them. How many of those who support Romney feel the same?
Should healthcare be a for-profit business? Should $$$ (in our society, $$$=God) be the deciding factor for doctors?

BamaPJFan

The small business owners should thank Wall St., the subprime mortgage crisis, and bankers for the uncertainty in the economy. Those who almost destroyed this economy are still doing as well as ever. The problem? 93% of the post-recession earnings/revenue has gone to the top 1% (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/0 ... 21008.html). Banks and large corporations have trillions of dollars on the sidelines, the companies that got the bulk of TARP funds are not hiring; instead, they are making record profits and laying people off. They are as anti-American as you can get and they don't have an ounce of patriotism in their blood.

The right wing propaganda machine will try to convince people that it is all the fault of big-bad government and a socialist, anti american, anti business President. Let's think about that: the President of the U.S. is anti-business. It is quite silly; but, the idiots who listen to Limbaugh or O'Reilly or Hannity buy into it b/c it reinforces their own narrow-minded, uninformed ideologies and prejudices.

As for the cancer doctor you know, I would love to speak with him/her directly. I just saw a friend of mine's father at a wedding in Philly. He is a soon to be retired general physician and says the opposite of what your cancer doctor says.
Doctors not accepting Medicare is part of the problem. Doctors deserve big paychecks, but their job is care, not testing.[/quote]


Doctors who run their own small shops will be the ones most adversely affected by the cuts in Medicare reimbursements because they will struggle to pay their overhead. Big hospitals will still be affected, but they will not have the hard hits that solo practitioners/small practice phyisicans will. Doctors who are on the payroll of large hospitals and large clinics will be insulated from the Medicare cuts to a much larger degee because they aren't as dependent on Medicare. A poll was just released two weeks ago, prior to the second debate, that showed that well over 50% of American phyisicians support Romney. The medical profession is really at a big crossroads right now with this new healthcare legislation.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/01/surve ... over-obama[/quote]

I refuse to click on a link to The Daily Caller. Sorry.

The cuts in reimbursements are offset by the reductions in cost of overcharges by big pharma, ins. companies, etc. The best part of ACA is that it requires insurance companies to use 80% of all patient premiums for care, not for executive pay, marketing, etc. Cuts are not the same as savings.

The problem with the system can be summed up in one experience:
My brother in law is in Wealth Management with Merrill Lynch. One of his biggest clients is a diabetes specialist in NJ. The doctor put it plainly: I get paid to test people, not to treat them. How many of those who support Romney feel the same?
Should healthcare be a for-profit business? Should $$$ (in our society, $$$=God) be the deciding factor for doctors?[/quote]


Doctors who own their own private practices cannot treat people for free or they would not be able to keep their practices open. These private practice phyisicians are the ones who have relied most on Medicare. Because of the Medicare cuts, many have already stopped taking new Medicare patients. Hospitals have more discretion on whether to treat someone or not. Obviously, emergency rooms cannot turn folks away. But, for the solo and small practice physician, they have to make a business decision.

BamaPJFan

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

BamaPJFan wrote:

I'll go out of a limb (albeit not a big limb) and say that most of the republican voter entusiasm is being driven by voting Obama out of office as opposed to merely voting for Romney. That's probably the best way to articulate how voter sentiment has trended as of late.

Ok... so considering that the president has about a 50% approval rating and that George W Bush had about 24% that maybe the "voter enthusiasm" last time was more about ending 8 years of spoiled rich brat running the country into the ground?

And you want to go back to that?

Bush had an approval rating of 60% going into his 2004 re-election. It didn't hit the '20s until a couple of years into his second term. So, long story short, Bush was strongly popular leading into the 2004 presidential election. Obama being at or below 50% is not good for his chances at re-election.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116500/presi ... -bush.aspx

Prince Of Dorkness

BamaPJFan wrote:

The last four years have been worse than the previous four.

Uh... actually no.

Housing construction at a 4 year high.

Unemployment at a 4 year low.

Auto Industry comeback.

Take a look around you. We're at the threshold of hell. It ain't gettin' any better with four more years of this current administration.

Threshold of Hell?

Well boy, that's a rational argument.

whygohome

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

BamaPJFan wrote:

The last four years have been worse than the previous four.

Uh... actually no.

Housing construction at a 4 year high.

Unemployment at a 4 year low.

Auto Industry comeback.

Take a look around you. We're at the threshold of hell. It ain't gettin' any better with four more years of this current administration.

Threshold of Hell?

Well boy, that's a rational argument.

Well, Obama IS the Anti-Christ, remember?

brianlux

whygohome wrote:

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

BamaPJFan wrote:

The last four years have been worse than the previous four.

Uh... actually no.

Housing construction at a 4 year high.

Unemployment at a 4 year low.

Auto Industry comeback.

Take a look around you. We're at the threshold of hell. It ain't gettin' any better with four more years of this current administration.

Threshold of Hell?

Well boy, that's a rational argument.

Well, Obama IS the Anti-Christ, remember?

Godfather.

Total federal and state "welfare" spending topped $1 trillion last year, marking a nearly 30 percent increase since the start of the Obama administration -- according to a new congressional report which documented spending across more than 80 benefit programs for low-income families.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10 ... z29fSyrBpE

Godfather.

BamaPJFan

Godfather. wrote:

Total federal and state "welfare" spending topped $1 trillion last year, marking a nearly 30 percent increase since the start of the Obama administration -- according to a new congressional report which documented spending across more than 80 benefit programs for low-income families.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10 ... z29fSyrBpE

Godfather.

Along those same lines....

http://www.cnbc.com/id/49460659

Prince Of Dorkness

well boy, we sure don't want to like.... help the poorest people who need help, do we?

What's missing from those numbers?

The number of people who needed help.

See in the Bush years (and what Romney has very clearly said is his policy) our strategy for dealing with the very poor, child poverty, child mal-nutrition and the homeless issue was the Bush Program of "Go Fuck Yourself, Not My Problem."

And now we have a president who's trying to deal with the problem and even get those people off assistance.

But since he didn't use his magic voodoo wand and fix all the Bush-Era Fuck Ups in a week... MAN they mad.

Godfather.

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

well boy, we sure don't want to like.... help the poorest people who need help, do we?

What's missing from those numbers?

The number of people who needed help.

See in the Bush years (and what Romney has very clearly said is his policy) our strategy for dealing with the very poor, child poverty, child mal-nutrition and the homeless issue was the Bush Program of "Go Fuck Yourself, Not My Problem."

And now we have a president who's trying to deal with the problem and even get those people off assistance.

But since he didn't use his magic voodoo wand and fix all the Bush-Era Fuck Ups in a week... MAN they mad.

Prince Of Dorkness wrote:

well boy, we sure don't want to like.... help the poorest people who need help, do we?

what kinda bullshit is that ? you're talking out yer.....mr.bullhorn again, did I or anybody else post that we don't want to feed or help the poor or people that need it ? and now that we have this huge amount of people that are using welfare(during obamas presidentsey even tho he promised to create more job's but all he did was hand out checks) and here you are again screaming "it's Bush's fault" :fp: ...com'on man really ??? is that the only way you can defend obama...by blamming Bush for obama's fuck up's ??. it's getting old man..really it is.



Godfather.

whygohome

BamaPJFan wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

Total federal and state "welfare" spending topped $1 trillion last year, marking a nearly 30 percent increase since the start of the Obama administration -- according to a new congressional report which documented spending across more than 80 benefit programs for low-income families.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10 ... z29fSyrBpE

Godfather.

Along those same lines....

http://www.cnbc.com/id/49460659

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80 ... _recession

Prince Of Dorkness

Godfather. wrote:

and now that we have this huge amount of people that are using welfare(during obamas presidentsey even tho he promised to create more job's but all he did was hand out checks) and here you are again screaming "it's Bush's fault" :fp: ...com'on man really ???

Um.. actually, it was Bush who "handed out checks."

Since you seem to have an odd memory... 4 years ago the country was on the edge of complete economic Collapse. Recovering from a disaster as deep as that has taken time and... although we're in the best place we've been since then... there's a lot more work to do.

Nobody is "screaming" about the undeniable fact that this is just us crawling out of the pit that - yes - is the direct fault of our former president who brought in his disastrous economic plan that brought us from a Surplus at the end of the Clinton years to the edge of another Great Depression.

Trying to place the blame on president Obama for this would be like me pushing you down the stairs and breaking your neck and then four years later when you come to me in a wheel chair, me saying "that was four years ago... and you're STILL blaming me?!?!"

:fp:

fear4freedom

NICE!!!! Romney up by 7 pts now! Its going to continue also!

Prince Of Dorkness

fear4freedom wrote:

NICE!!!! Romney up by 7 pts now! Its going to continue also!

Seven what? Dwarves?

:fp:

Thirty Bills Unpaid

fear4freedom wrote:

NICE!!!! Romney up by 7 pts now! Its going to continue also!

If you actually elect this guy then you deserve him.

London Bridge

fear4freedom wrote:

NICE!!!! Romney up by 7 pts now! Its going to continue also!

How is Romney doing in Massachusetts? You know, the state where he claims to have done all those wonderful things as Governor.

Maybe he didn't do such a wonderful job :nono: