What women will do if..

dimitrispearljam

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

I voted for Hillary Clinton over Obama in the primary four years ago. I don't think it matters at all if the canidate is a man or woman.

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i guess you mean,you vote for Hillary Clinton cos you thought he will run the office better than Obama and not cos she is a woman.right.?
and if hilary was with republicans,and obama with democrats,will you vote for Hilary for president??
or cos she would be with republican party, then you will vote for Obama ..?

ill be very intrested to see a woman at the white house..will be very cool imo

hedonist

Content of character, baby!

Most everything else is just fluff.

dimitrispearljam

hedonist wrote:

Content of character, baby!

Most everything else is just fluff.

sure..but dont you think some women or men will affect cos of a woman candidate?

comebackgirl

dimitrispearljam wrote:

hedonist wrote:

Content of character, baby!

Most everything else is just fluff.

sure..but dont you think some women or men will affect cos of a woman candidate?

well if it is between a male and female candidate who are equally qualified and equally support the policies I believe in...then it would come down to who has the better shoes

I think some people would vote for a female candidate simply because she's a woman and some who wouldn't vote for her simply for that reason. As much as possible I try to filter out the noise and focus on how they are going to shape the country. I really don't care if that's a man, woman, republican, democrat, etc. If they support what I believe in and they are qualified for the job, they're getting my vote. Their voting record, track record and experience speak volumes. Good shoes don't hurt either

hedonist

dimitrispearljam wrote:

hedonist wrote:

Content of character, baby!

Most everything else is just fluff.

sure..but dont you think some women or men will affect cos of a woman candidate?

Of course there are the blind, the rabid - whether using those for reasons to vote for OR against someone.

Me, I'm hoping that there are more reasonable people out there who would go by the first part of my post.

dimitrispearljam

hedonist wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

hedonist wrote:

Content of character, baby!

Most everything else is just fluff.

sure..but dont you think some women or men will affect cos of a woman candidate?

Of course there are the blind, the rabid - whether using those for reasons to vote for OR against someone.

Me, I'm hoping that there are more reasonable people out there who would go by the first part of my post.

i agree..you are right..

brianlux

A woman president would not only be fine with me but, in fact, I think eventually that's inevitable. Hillary- mmm- not my first choice but we've had worse. Sarah Palin... Sarah Palin???

Prince Of Dorkness

I think Hillary Clinton would be a fantastic president but I also think she terrifies Republicans because she wouldn't take their shit the way that president Obama has.

Although I'm hoping Julien Castro runs in 2016. Because going from a President "Hussien" to a President Castro would cause complete systems failure in the Anne Coulters and Rush Limbaughs of the world.

OK... to be fair, he's someone I would really love to see president because I think he'd be an excellent one.

lukin2006

dimitrispearljam wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

I would love to see a woman elected as president, but I would only vote for a woman if she represented the views and policies I support. You would not find me voting for Sarah Palin or Christine O'Donnell, for example.

got you and agree..
what you think women in general will do in the usa?
u think will affect their vote if a woman is candidate?

Dimi she'd be just as crooked as the rest ... no citizen in most countries have a say ... the corporations own the countries now ... we are allowed to go vote every so often just to amuse us ... the amt is amusing ... vote for my guy - no vote for my guy hehehe ... just ridiculous, at least some people vote for third party candidates. IMO.

dimitrispearljam

lukin2006 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

comebackgirl wrote:

I would love to see a woman elected as president, but I would only vote for a woman if she represented the views and policies I support. You would not find me voting for Sarah Palin or Christine O'Donnell, for example.

got you and agree..
what you think women in general will do in the usa?
u think will affect their vote if a woman is candidate?

Dimi she'd be just as crooked as the rest ... no citizen in most countries have a say ... the corporations own the countries now ... we are allowed to go vote every so often just to amuse us ... the amt is amusing ... vote for my guy - no vote for my guy hehehe ... just ridiculous, at least some people vote for third party candidates. IMO.

you know..i really wish you was wrong...but you are damn right..

dimitrispearljam

btw,i dont know much of Hillary Clinton opinion or action as politician,but seems she got the balls to be the president of Usa...she has a gift when she talks,and this is really important in politics for convice people to vote for her..

lukin2006

Dimi ... As you can tell I have an extreme jaded view of politicians.

chadwick

i am pro womam 24x7, 365 on a constant. however, sarah palin would not and will not ever earn my respect with the murdering of wolves & bears & other critters. to me she is a uneducated unless b-word.

hilary clinton is probably a decent human being yet that whole clinton thing jams things up with me as they are both crafty ass attorneys; fuck a bunch of that noise.

mother teresa is god damn fantastic and that is the exact type of human being we need in office

no puppets
no multi millionaires/multi billionaires
what the fuck?
why is it asking for a fucking miracle to get someone decent in office?

brianlux

chadwick wrote:

why is it asking for a fucking miracle to get someone decent in office?

Excellent question, Chadwick!!

dimitrispearljam

chadwick wrote:

mother teresa is god damn fantastic and that is the exact type of human being we need in office

no puppets
no multi millionaires/multi billionaires
what the fuck?
why is it asking for a fucking miracle to get someone decent in office?

i fuckin love the way you see things...

Prince Of Dorkness

chadwick wrote:

why is it asking for a fucking miracle to get someone decent in office?

honestly?

I think it's because both parties have tried to distract us with insignificant social issues that have zero to negligible effect on the economy and instead of trying to tackle the real problems that are hard for most voters to grasp, we spend years debating things like "should we pay Dr. Female as much as we pay Dr. Male" or "should we let Jasun sponsor Carlo as his spouse for immigration."

We don't really look at "how to tax incentives for multinational corporations favor business practices that keep jobs and infrastructure here in America while still allowing those companies to be competitive in a world market" or "can we develop a sustainable energy source that would not tangle us with Middle Eastern dictators but instead invest back in our own country? And if so... how much money should we invest trying to develop those technologies?"

And of course... there is so much social discord among Americans... People from the bible belt elect evangelicals who believe the world is "but 6000 years old like it says in the bible" so they can counter the liberals from "California who want to force your daughter to get an abortion and force your son to bunk with a gay man in the military."

Nobody checks the credentials of these people we're sending to Washington to handle economic and foreign issues so we have a bunch of people bickering about social issues because they don't understand things like "money" and "international commerce."

I once got in a chat with a conservative who insisted that Sarah Palin was "an energy expert." I asked him what that even meant... her degree was in journalism, not Electrical Engineering or Bio Technology. When I pointed this out, he called me a "hippie liberal" and said "you just want to make us all a bunch of tree huggers until you have to clear all those trees for your vegan diet, you commie."

And I'm probably guilty of saying that Republicans can only count to 32 and even that starts to go away when they start to lose their teeth.

We don't have leaders who can lead us because we're too busy looking for leaders who can help us win the culture war that they've used to distract us.

Ledbetterman10

dimitrispearljam wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

I voted for Hillary Clinton over Obama in the primary four years ago. I don't think it matters at all if the canidate is a man or woman.

.

i guess you mean,you vote for Hillary Clinton cos you thought he will run the office better than Obama and not cos she is a woman.right.?
and if hilary was with republicans,and obama with democrats,will you vote for Hilary for president??
or cos she would be with republican party, then you will vote for Obama ..?

ill be very intrested to see a woman at the white house..will be very cool imo

Yeah the fact that she was a woman didn't factor into the vote. Basically her husband's two terms as president was the deciding factor for me. And no, I would never vote for a republican for president unless said republican nominee saved me from getting hit by a bus or something.

PJ_Soul

brianlux wrote:

chadwick wrote:

why is it asking for a fucking miracle to get someone decent in office?

Excellent question, Chadwick!!

Because no one decent wants to wade through all that political bullshit you have to wade through to get to the point where running for president is an option. Only power hungry assholes have the desire to schmooze in that atmosphere, are willing to step on people while they're at it to get further, and those are the ones able to spin shit and get there anyway they can. A dcent person would havento be an honest person, and its dishonesty that allows politicians to move up the ranks (as voters continuously allow fheir faith to convince them thst THIS time they're being honest). Unfortunately, the good guy does not always come out on top. In federal politics, the bad guys won a long time ago, and now it's systemic. It will literally take a civilian-lead revolution to change that now, and we're just too comfy to do that.

lukin2006

PJ_Soul wrote:

brianlux wrote:

chadwick wrote:

why is it asking for a fucking miracle to get someone decent in office?

Excellent question, Chadwick!!

Because no one decent wants to wade through all that political bullshit you have to wade through to get to the point where running for president is an option. Only power hungry assholes have the desire to schmooze in that atmosphere, are willing to step on people while they're at it to get further, and those are the ones able to spin shit and get there anyway they can. A dcent person would havento be an honest person, and its dishonesty that allows politicians to move up the ranks (as voters continuously allow fheir faith to convince them thst THIS time they're being honest). Unfortunately, the good guy does not always come out on top. In federal politics, the bad guys won a long time ago, and now it's systemic. It will literally take a civilian-lead revolution to change that now, and we're just too comfy to do that.

Very well said ... Can I add that it takes millions to get elected ... And that virtually removes anyone who comes from the general population...and that too me is the sad part at how much is spent on politics and getting people elected instead of helping the poor and feeding the hungry.

brianlux

Good points PJ_Soul and Lukin2006. Ah heck, I'm runnin' for prez next time!