Did last night's debate change anyone's vote?

Godfather.

OOOOOOO I think it did......


Godfather.


"We're gonna bring back jobs and bring back America," Romney said at a rally in Abingdon, Va., Friday, before heading to a rally later in the day in Florida.

The Rasmussen surveys showed Romney leading by a hair in both those states



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10 ... z28SVgfT00

callen

Jeanwah wrote:

Why anyone would even consider that anything that comes out of either mouth as to would be what they'd actually do, if (re)elected, is the dumbest thing ever. We all know from experience that every single candidate ever elected does NOT push through on what they say they will do, whether Congress prevents them from action or they completely flip flop on what ever they talk about at the moment.

Get real people!!!

Feel the same way....all lip service to appeal to the masses.

How about supreme court nominee's? Dems and repugs have eemed to be consistent on lib versus conservative justices.

EmBleve

callen wrote:

Jeanwah wrote:

Why anyone would even consider that anything that comes out of either mouth as to would be what they'd actually do, if (re)elected, is the dumbest thing ever. We all know from experience that every single candidate ever elected does NOT push through on what they say they will do, whether Congress prevents them from action or they completely flip flop on what ever they talk about at the moment.

Get real people!!!

Feel the same way....all lip service to appeal to the masses.

How about supreme court nominee's? Dems and repugs have been semed to be consistent on lib versus conservative justices.

I agree with Jeanwah, although, the debate did sway me.

EdsonNascimento

Godfather. wrote:

OOOOOOO I think it did......


Godfather.


"We're gonna bring back jobs and bring back America," Romney said at a rally in Abingdon, Va., Friday, before heading to a rally later in the day in Florida.

The Rasmussen surveys showed Romney leading by a hair in both those states



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10 ... z28SVgfT00

Not a chance Romney wins. That is fox spin.

whygohome

EdsonNascimento wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

OOOOOOO I think it did......
Godfather.

"We're gonna bring back jobs and bring back America," Romney said at a rally in Abingdon, Va., Friday, before heading to a rally later in the day in Florida.

The Rasmussen surveys showed Romney leading by a hair in both those states

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10 ... z28SVgfT00

Not a chance Romney wins. That is fox spin.

Moonpig

pandora wrote:

Moonpig wrote:

pandora wrote:

Some should ask themselves if...

their country's role in the world is like that of the US?

Is their country considered a super power?

Is their threat of violence as great as that of the US?

Is their military small for a reason?

Is ours large for a reason?

I do not think our military should be expanded and I think it should face cuts
as all the social programs, across the board. But we need to be able to put
our military back to work when they come home or it will be another hit
to unemployment therefore costing more. It's the people factor in our military
that matters, jobs for them must be there.

Some aspects of the divided ideology in our country
are very counterproductive and need to change.
Each party can do this but it starts with what the people expect
not with what our representatives do.
We can control both and here lies change.

well considering the atrocities committed by America in many parts of the world, I would say no, other countries are not as much at risk.

an other countries military may be small, given they distribute more funding to things that really matter, like health and education.

Such logic may make me a radical thinker lol

Perhaps you will list the atrocities so I can better understand what my country has done.
Of course facts only or is your statement based in opinion? or bias?

I would think a country's military would be small because it is not needed therefore
funds are spent elsewhere.

Are you in a country that is an ally of ours?
Therefore we work alongside each other and you may benefit from our defense
if the need arises.

If indeed we come to help in a time of threat or great disaster
would that bring a different opinion of our military?
If your country has a need that we can fulfill? then a tune would change for you?

Sure;
Hiroshima and Nasaki
Canicatti massacre
Dachau massacre
Biscari massacre
No Gun Ri massacre
My Lai Massacre
Hue Massacre
Use of Agent Orange
Guantanamo Bay

Afghanistan:
Khost Province, Ali Daya; April 9, 2009
Kunar Province; December 26, 2009
Paktika Province; February 12, 2010
Kandahar; April 12, 2010
Khost Province; April 20, 2010

Iraq:
Haditha
Falluja

Bombings of Colon, San Miguelito and El Chorillo

Torture of POWs
Illegal detention of foreign nationals

That's just for now, best that you read up on your own time. If you need more come back and let me know.

Semper Fi baby

Zoso

Godfather. wrote:

OOOOOOO I think it did......


Godfather.


"We're gonna bring back jobs and bring back America," Romney said at a rally in Abingdon, Va., Friday, before heading to a rally later in the day in Florida.

The Rasmussen surveys showed Romney leading by a hair in both those states



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10 ... z28SVgfT00

fox news has an agenda for romney to win... every other news station has said all along that Obama is winning in the swing states and slighlty overall. Would have to be a large turn around for Obama not to be a 2 term president.

kenny olav

Unfortunately, Obama's comfortable lead seems to have dwindled away... according to the latest polls...

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/201 ... ariation-1

It seriously boggles my mind that anyone wants Mitt Romney to be President. It was a relief when he was no longer our Governor here in MA. He had the lowest approval rating in MA history. I think this will turn back around, but it is disturbing to think Romney might be President, to say the least.

whygohome

kenny olav wrote:

Unfortunately, Obama's comfortable lead seems to have dwindled away... according to the latest polls...

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/201 ... ariation-1

It seriously boggles my mind that anyone wants Mitt Romney to be President. It was a relief when he was no longer our Governor here in MA. He had the lowest approval rating in MA history. I think this will turn back around, but it is disturbing to think Romney might be President, to say the least.

Good insight to the Romney Governorship (oh wait, it's NPR....damn liberals :roll: )
http://www.npr.org/2012/06/13/154583216 ... e-big-deal

Approval ratings:
"Approval ratings: The year he left office as Massachusetts Governor, Romney's approval hovered around 34 percent. "

supersonicyears

Moonpig, What country are you from?

Moonpig

I'm from Ireland.

whygohome

Moonpig wrote:

I'm from Ireland.

Be careful. There will be those that will tell you to keep your foreign mouth shut (Not I, of course). But maybe you can respond like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD0s-eKxUIY

Moonpig

whygohome wrote:

Moonpig wrote:

I'm from Ireland.

Be careful. There will be those that will tell you to keep your foreign mouth shut (Not I, of course). But maybe you can respond like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD0s-eKxUIY

I didn't vote for the guy, but that was excellent, I remember hearing it in the car on the way back from work and nearly crashed the car. Don't ever try to steal this man's lucky charms

Godfather.

Zoso wrote:

Godfather. wrote:

OOOOOOO I think it did......


Godfather.


"We're gonna bring back jobs and bring back America," Romney said at a rally in Abingdon, Va., Friday, before heading to a rally later in the day in Florida.

The Rasmussen surveys showed Romney leading by a hair in both those states



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10 ... z28SVgfT00

fox news has an agenda for romney to win... every other news station has said all along that Obama is winning in the swing states and slighlty overall. Would have to be a large turn around for Obama not to be a 2 term president.

yeahhh I know all that but for the love of Lassie I hope Romney gets it this time...and I say that with some hesitation...because as I get older I find hard to trust anybody in politics to do what is right the country as a whole.

Godfather.

Godfather.

whygohome wrote:

Moonpig wrote:

I'm from Ireland.

Be careful. There will be those that will tell you to keep your foreign mouth shut (Not I, of course). But maybe you can respond like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD0s-eKxUIY

that would be me

Godfather.

Moonpig

Godfather. wrote:

whygohome wrote:

Moonpig wrote:

I'm from Ireland.

Be careful. There will be those that will tell you to keep your foreign mouth shut (Not I, of course). But maybe you can respond like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD0s-eKxUIY

that would be me

Godfather.

That's ok, different opinions tend to annoy some people.

pandora

Moonpig wrote:

pandora wrote:

Moonpig wrote:

well considering the atrocities committed by America in many parts of the world, I would say no, other countries are not as much at risk.

an other countries military may be small, given they distribute more funding to things that really matter, like health and education.

Such logic may make me a radical thinker lol

Perhaps you will list the atrocities so I can better understand what my country has done.
Of course facts only or is your statement based in opinion? or bias?

I would think a country's military would be small because it is not needed therefore
funds are spent elsewhere.

Are you in a country that is an ally of ours?
Therefore we work alongside each other and you may benefit from our defense
if the need arises.

If indeed we come to help in a time of threat or great disaster
would that bring a different opinion of our military?
If your country has a need that we can fulfill? then a tune would change for you?

Sure;
Hiroshima and Nasaki
Canicatti massacre
Dachau massacre
Biscari massacre
No Gun Ri massacre
My Lai Massacre
Hue Massacre
Use of Agent Orange
Guantanamo Bay

Afghanistan:
Khost Province, Ali Daya; April 9, 2009
Kunar Province; December 26, 2009
Paktika Province; February 12, 2010
Kandahar; April 12, 2010
Khost Province; April 20, 2010

Iraq:
Haditha
Falluja

Bombings of Colon, San Miguelito and El Chorillo

Torture of POWs
Illegal detention of foreign nationals

That's just for now, best that you read up on your own time. If you need more come back and let me know.

Semper Fi baby

Thank you I will research ... are most of these occuring in battle?
I think war in general is an atrocity.

Our role in the world is very different than Ireland's, would you agree?
What is Ireland's role in the world arena? I'm not sure, is there one?
I will enjoy learning about that, the positives.

Is Ireland guilty of atrocities as well? Was it against their own people or the
English? I'm not up on European history.

Perhaps your country as well is not free of shame and blame
but perhaps enjoys such on a much smaller scale ...
again Ireland the size of our state of Maine, can we compare?
Where's a Russian


Back to topic...
After the debate I heard Romney earned 12 milion in campaign funds directly related
to how well he did.

Then I heard a couple days later how much our Presient earned in campaign funds
in the last month... holy crapola :shock:

those rich Democrats are turning out ...
guess all the nonprofits must be doing really well

Go Beavers

pandora wrote:

Moonpig wrote:

pandora wrote:

Perhaps you will list the atrocities so I can better understand what my country has done.
Of course facts only or is your statement based in opinion? or bias?

I would think a country's military would be small because it is not needed therefore
funds are spent elsewhere.

Are you in a country that is an ally of ours?
Therefore we work alongside each other and you may benefit from our defense
if the need arises.

If indeed we come to help in a time of threat or great disaster
would that bring a different opinion of our military?
If your country has a need that we can fulfill? then a tune would change for you?

Sure;
Hiroshima and Nasaki
Canicatti massacre
Dachau massacre
Biscari massacre
No Gun Ri massacre
My Lai Massacre
Hue Massacre
Use of Agent Orange
Guantanamo Bay

Afghanistan:
Khost Province, Ali Daya; April 9, 2009
Kunar Province; December 26, 2009
Paktika Province; February 12, 2010
Kandahar; April 12, 2010
Khost Province; April 20, 2010

Iraq:
Haditha
Falluja

Bombings of Colon, San Miguelito and El Chorillo

Torture of POWs
Illegal detention of foreign nationals

That's just for now, best that you read up on your own time. If you need more come back and let me know.

Semper Fi baby

Thank you I will research ... are most of these occuring in battle?
I think war in general is an atrocity.

Our role in the world is very different than Ireland's, would you agree?
What is Ireland's role in the world arena? I'm not sure, is there one?
I will enjoy learning about that, the positives.

Is Ireland guilty of atrocities as well? Was it against their own people or the
English? I'm not up on European history.

Perhaps your country as well is not free of shame and blame
but perhaps enjoys such on a much smaller scale ...
again Ireland the size of our state of Maine, can we compare?
Where's a Russian

So what would be your response if moonpig was American?

redrock

Go Beavers wrote:

So what would be your response if moonpig was American?

Who knows, maybe he is. Or he may have dual citizenship. Wouldn't be the first American living abroad posting in this forum, would it?

Once bitten, twice shy? Doesn't seem to apply here.

Though I do think Moonpig is Irish, what is the relevance of this? Has one no valid arguments but xenophobic retorts?

Moonpig

redrock wrote:

Go Beavers wrote:

So what would be your response if moonpig was American?

Who knows, maybe he is. Or he may have dual citizenship. Wouldn't be the first American living abroad posting in this forum, would it?

Once bitten, twice shy? Doesn't seem to apply here.

Though I do think Moonpig is Irish, what is the relevance of this? Has one no valid arguments but xenophobic retorts?

Yeah seems weird that my citizenship should be an issue with respect to what opinions I have. And for the record, I do hold dual citizenship, the other not being the US of A, but to your free healthcare givin commie brothers to the north.

Although this should still not enable me to more of an opinion than I currently express.