their country's role in the world is like that of the US?
Is their country considered a super power?
Is their threat of violence as great as that of the US?
Is their military small for a reason?
Is ours large for a reason?
I do not think our military should be expanded and I think it should face cuts
as all the social programs, across the board. But we need to be able to put
our military back to work when they come home or it will be another hit
to unemployment therefore costing more. It's the people factor in our military
that matters, jobs for them must be there.
Some aspects of the divided ideology in our country
are very counterproductive and need to change.
Each party can do this but it starts with what the people expect
not with what our representatives do.
We can control both and here lies change.
their country's role in the world is like that of the US?
Is their country considered a super power?
Is their threat of violence as great as that of the US?
Is their military small for a reason?
Is ours large for a reason?
I do not think our military should be expanded and I think it should face cuts
as all the social programs, across the board. But we need to be able to put
our military back to work when they come home or it will be another hit
to unemployment therefore costing more. It's the people factor in our military
that matters, jobs for them must be there.
Some aspects of the divided ideology in our country
are very counterproductive and need to change.
Each party can do this but it starts with what the people expect
not with what our representatives do.
We can control both and here lies change.
well considering the atrocities committed by America in many parts of the world, I would say no, other countries are not as much at risk.
an other countries military may be small, given they distribute more funding to things that really matter, like health and education.
I cant decide on either. I dont like either candidate, so they both have a chance with me. But some of Mitt's policies on energy, environment, and expanding military spending are just bad, bad ideas.
This is the real question (great question) about these debates and the rest of the campaigning though...who will each candidate get that is on the fence.
I don't think people understand the importance of a strong military...not to mention it's how I make a living.
Godfather.
Sure, some do, and some dont.
I understand the importance, and I also know that the US $pend$ a TON more on military than most of the rest of the world. Mitt wants to expand the military, and spend more money. When was the last time the size and/or spending of our military been at a point where we were vulnerable? Its ridiculous, sorry, and I have friends and family in the military, but its just too much.
But, the Republicans have never acted out this belief. Never. Government has grown under Republicans and so has spending. All of a sudden they are small government and fiscally responsible. the only fiscally responsible President in my lifetime was Clinton
It's never too late
won't know unless we try.
Perhaps the fact that the Federal government is not only broke
but in a hole almost all the way to China... ha!
They will hand power back over to the states, back away from fixing everyone's problems,
give us our money to use as we see fit instead of leaving us stinking broke...
small business too.
Romney is a business man maybe just maybe ...
Legitimate statements/claims; one thing though, the amount of our debt that China has is always overstated.
yes very true I have seen this when researching but have found it confusing
if not China then who?
But, the Republicans have never acted out this belief. Never. Government has grown under Republicans and so has spending. All of a sudden they are small government and fiscally responsible. the only fiscally responsible President in my lifetime was Clinton
It's never too late
won't know unless we try.
Perhaps the fact that the Federal government is not only broke
but in a hole almost all the way to China... ha!
They will hand power back over to the states, back away from fixing everyone's problems,
give us our money to use as we see fit instead of leaving us stinking broke...
small business too.
Romney is a business man maybe just maybe ...
"give us our money"? Don't you live in a state that takes more in federal money than it puts in?
if so boy would I not be proud of that! I really don't think of Georgia as my state.
I am a midwesterner, a Milwaukee girl living in the South. 35 years and growing up
there is the basis of who I am.
This was back in 2004, I didn't find anything more recent, this is what you speak of?
The article mentions it as "winning" to be doing so.
If I take that correctly that is the very heart of the mentality I am against.
We are the government and it is our money, not something to scam
nor drain, nor take from.
Get the Federal Govt out of whatever the States can do better and let's not be beholding.
he won the debate because he continually talked over Jim L and Obama.. well Obama was rude to Jim also so.. he was more aggressive then Obama. He won but they both talked way too much they needed to get to the damn point. It was boring there was no end in sight to their long winded answers. Next debate hopefully is a little more interesting.. Obama had nothing to prove everyione knows what he has done and what he hasn't.. Willard had it all to prove. He proved he could be more aggressive then Obama and take a stand on a debate issue.
Mitt reminded me of George H bush - 'read my lip'. Every republican has increased taxed on the middle class even when they said they werent before they were elected.. People fall for it everytime.
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Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
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their country's role in the world is like that of the US?
Is their country considered a super power?
Is their threat of violence as great as that of the US?
Is their military small for a reason?
Is ours large for a reason?
I do not think our military should be expanded and I think it should face cuts
as all the social programs, across the board. But we need to be able to put
our military back to work when they come home or it will be another hit
to unemployment therefore costing more. It's the people factor in our military
that matters, jobs for them must be there.
Some aspects of the divided ideology in our country
are very counterproductive and need to change.
Each party can do this but it starts with what the people expect
not with what our representatives do.
We can control both and here lies change.
well considering the atrocities committed by America in many parts of the world, I would say no, other countries are not as much at risk.
an other countries military may be small, given they distribute more funding to things that really matter, like health and education.
Such logic may make me a radical thinker lol
Perhaps you will list the atrocities so I can better understand what my country has done.
Of course facts only or is your statement based in opinion? or bias?
I would think a country's military would be small because it is not needed therefore
funds are spent elsewhere.
Are you in a country that is an ally of ours?
Therefore we work alongside each other and you may benefit from our defense
if the need arises.
If indeed we come to help in a time of threat or great disaster
would that bring a different opinion of our military?
If your country has a need that we can fulfill? then a tune would change for you?
their country's role in the world is like that of the US?
Is their country considered a super power?
Is their threat of violence as great as that of the US?
Is their military small for a reason?
Is ours large for a reason?
I do not think our military should be expanded and I think it should face cuts
as all the social programs, across the board. But we need to be able to put
our military back to work when they come home or it will be another hit
to unemployment therefore costing more. It's the people factor in our military
that matters, jobs for them must be there.
Some aspects of the divided ideology in our country
are very counterproductive and need to change.
Each party can do this but it starts with what the people expect
not with what our representatives do.
We can control both and here lies change.
well considering the atrocities committed by America in many parts of the world, I would say no, other countries are not as much at risk.
an other countries military may be small, given they distribute more funding to things that really matter, like health and education.
Such logic may make me a radical thinker lol
it's no secret the US military spending is WAY too much even considering the need to protect the country. The budget is more then Russia, China, England, Japan combined.. meanwhile the poverty rate and gap between rich and poor increases.. Hmmmm sounds a little like the soviet union to me.
I'm just flying around the other side of the world to say I love you
Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
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their country's role in the world is like that of the US?
Is their country considered a super power?
Is their threat of violence as great as that of the US?
Is their military small for a reason?
Is ours large for a reason?
I do not think our military should be expanded and I think it should face cuts
as all the social programs, across the board. But we need to be able to put
our military back to work when they come home or it will be another hit
to unemployment therefore costing more. It's the people factor in our military
that matters, jobs for them must be there.
Some aspects of the divided ideology in our country
are very counterproductive and need to change.
Each party can do this but it starts with what the people expect
not with what our representatives do.
We can control both and here lies change.
well considering the atrocities committed by America in many parts of the world, I would say no, other countries are not as much at risk.
an other countries military may be small, given they distribute more funding to things that really matter, like health and education.
Such logic may make me a radical thinker lol
Perhaps you will list the atrocities so I can better understand what my country has done.
Of course facts only or is your statement based in opinion? or bias?
I would think a country's military would be small because it is not needed therefore
funds are spent elsewhere.
Are you in a country that is an ally of ours?
Therefore we work alongside each other and you may benefit from our defense
if the need arises.
If indeed we come to help in a time of threat or great disaster
would that bring a different opinion of our military?
If your country has a need that we can fulfill? then a tune would change for you?
"We're gonna bring back jobs and bring back America," Romney said at a rally in Abingdon, Va., Friday, before heading to a rally later in the day in Florida.
The Rasmussen surveys showed Romney leading by a hair in both those states
Why anyone would even consider that anything that comes out of either mouth as to would be what they'd actually do, if (re)elected, is the dumbest thing ever. We all know from experience that every single candidate ever elected does NOT push through on what they say they will do, whether Congress prevents them from action or they completely flip flop on what ever they talk about at the moment.
Get real people!!!
Feel the same way....all lip service to appeal to the masses.
How about supreme court nominee's? Dems and repugs have eemed to be consistent on lib versus conservative justices.
Why anyone would even consider that anything that comes out of either mouth as to would be what they'd actually do, if (re)elected, is the dumbest thing ever. We all know from experience that every single candidate ever elected does NOT push through on what they say they will do, whether Congress prevents them from action or they completely flip flop on what ever they talk about at the moment.
Get real people!!!
Feel the same way....all lip service to appeal to the masses.
How about supreme court nominee's? Dems and repugs have been semed to be consistent on lib versus conservative justices.
I agree with Jeanwah, although, the debate did sway me.
"We're gonna bring back jobs and bring back America," Romney said at a rally in Abingdon, Va., Friday, before heading to a rally later in the day in Florida.
The Rasmussen surveys showed Romney leading by a hair in both those states
"We're gonna bring back jobs and bring back America," Romney said at a rally in Abingdon, Va., Friday, before heading to a rally later in the day in Florida.
The Rasmussen surveys showed Romney leading by a hair in both those states
their country's role in the world is like that of the US?
Is their country considered a super power?
Is their threat of violence as great as that of the US?
Is their military small for a reason?
Is ours large for a reason?
I do not think our military should be expanded and I think it should face cuts
as all the social programs, across the board. But we need to be able to put
our military back to work when they come home or it will be another hit
to unemployment therefore costing more. It's the people factor in our military
that matters, jobs for them must be there.
Some aspects of the divided ideology in our country
are very counterproductive and need to change.
Each party can do this but it starts with what the people expect
not with what our representatives do.
We can control both and here lies change.
well considering the atrocities committed by America in many parts of the world, I would say no, other countries are not as much at risk.
an other countries military may be small, given they distribute more funding to things that really matter, like health and education.
Such logic may make me a radical thinker lol
Perhaps you will list the atrocities so I can better understand what my country has done.
Of course facts only or is your statement based in opinion? or bias?
I would think a country's military would be small because it is not needed therefore
funds are spent elsewhere.
Are you in a country that is an ally of ours?
Therefore we work alongside each other and you may benefit from our defense
if the need arises.
If indeed we come to help in a time of threat or great disaster
would that bring a different opinion of our military?
If your country has a need that we can fulfill? then a tune would change for you?
Sure;
Hiroshima and Nasaki
Canicatti massacre
Dachau massacre
Biscari massacre
No Gun Ri massacre
My Lai Massacre
Hue Massacre
Use of Agent Orange
Guantanamo Bay
Afghanistan:
Khost Province, Ali Daya; April 9, 2009
Kunar Province; December 26, 2009
Paktika Province; February 12, 2010
Kandahar; April 12, 2010
Khost Province; April 20, 2010
Iraq:
Haditha
Falluja
Bombings of Colon, San Miguelito and El Chorillo
Torture of POWs
Illegal detention of foreign nationals
That's just for now, best that you read up on your own time. If you need more come back and let me know.
"We're gonna bring back jobs and bring back America," Romney said at a rally in Abingdon, Va., Friday, before heading to a rally later in the day in Florida.
The Rasmussen surveys showed Romney leading by a hair in both those states
fox news has an agenda for romney to win... every other news station has said all along that Obama is winning in the swing states and slighlty overall. Would have to be a large turn around for Obama not to be a 2 term president.
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Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
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It seriously boggles my mind that anyone wants Mitt Romney to be President. It was a relief when he was no longer our Governor here in MA. He had the lowest approval rating in MA history. I think this will turn back around, but it is disturbing to think Romney might be President, to say the least.
It seriously boggles my mind that anyone wants Mitt Romney to be President. It was a relief when he was no longer our Governor here in MA. He had the lowest approval rating in MA history. I think this will turn back around, but it is disturbing to think Romney might be President, to say the least.
I didn't vote for the guy, but that was excellent, I remember hearing it in the car on the way back from work and nearly crashed the car. Don't ever try to steal this man's lucky charms
"We're gonna bring back jobs and bring back America," Romney said at a rally in Abingdon, Va., Friday, before heading to a rally later in the day in Florida.
The Rasmussen surveys showed Romney leading by a hair in both those states
fox news has an agenda for romney to win... every other news station has said all along that Obama is winning in the swing states and slighlty overall. Would have to be a large turn around for Obama not to be a 2 term president.
yeahhh I know all that but for the love of Lassie I hope Romney gets it this time...and I say that with some hesitation...because as I get older I find hard to trust anybody in politics to do what is right the country as a whole.
well considering the atrocities committed by America in many parts of the world, I would say no, other countries are not as much at risk.
an other countries military may be small, given they distribute more funding to things that really matter, like health and education.
Such logic may make me a radical thinker lol
Perhaps you will list the atrocities so I can better understand what my country has done.
Of course facts only or is your statement based in opinion? or bias?
I would think a country's military would be small because it is not needed therefore
funds are spent elsewhere.
Are you in a country that is an ally of ours?
Therefore we work alongside each other and you may benefit from our defense
if the need arises.
If indeed we come to help in a time of threat or great disaster
would that bring a different opinion of our military?
If your country has a need that we can fulfill? then a tune would change for you?
Sure;
Hiroshima and Nasaki
Canicatti massacre
Dachau massacre
Biscari massacre
No Gun Ri massacre
My Lai Massacre
Hue Massacre
Use of Agent Orange
Guantanamo Bay
Afghanistan:
Khost Province, Ali Daya; April 9, 2009
Kunar Province; December 26, 2009
Paktika Province; February 12, 2010
Kandahar; April 12, 2010
Khost Province; April 20, 2010
Iraq:
Haditha
Falluja
Bombings of Colon, San Miguelito and El Chorillo
Torture of POWs
Illegal detention of foreign nationals
That's just for now, best that you read up on your own time. If you need more come back and let me know.
Semper Fi baby
Thank you I will research ... are most of these occuring in battle?
I think war in general is an atrocity.
Our role in the world is very different than Ireland's, would you agree?
What is Ireland's role in the world arena? I'm not sure, is there one?
I will enjoy learning about that, the positives.
Is Ireland guilty of atrocities as well? Was it against their own people or the
English? I'm not up on European history.
Perhaps your country as well is not free of shame and blame
but perhaps enjoys such on a much smaller scale ...
again Ireland the size of our state of Maine, can we compare?
Where's a Russian
Back to topic...
After the debate I heard Romney earned 12 milion in campaign funds directly related
to how well he did.
Then I heard a couple days later how much our Presient earned in campaign funds
in the last month... holy crapola :shock:
those rich Democrats are turning out ...
guess all the nonprofits must be doing really well
Perhaps you will list the atrocities so I can better understand what my country has done.
Of course facts only or is your statement based in opinion? or bias?
I would think a country's military would be small because it is not needed therefore
funds are spent elsewhere.
Are you in a country that is an ally of ours?
Therefore we work alongside each other and you may benefit from our defense
if the need arises.
If indeed we come to help in a time of threat or great disaster
would that bring a different opinion of our military?
If your country has a need that we can fulfill? then a tune would change for you?
Sure;
Hiroshima and Nasaki
Canicatti massacre
Dachau massacre
Biscari massacre
No Gun Ri massacre
My Lai Massacre
Hue Massacre
Use of Agent Orange
Guantanamo Bay
Afghanistan:
Khost Province, Ali Daya; April 9, 2009
Kunar Province; December 26, 2009
Paktika Province; February 12, 2010
Kandahar; April 12, 2010
Khost Province; April 20, 2010
Iraq:
Haditha
Falluja
Bombings of Colon, San Miguelito and El Chorillo
Torture of POWs
Illegal detention of foreign nationals
That's just for now, best that you read up on your own time. If you need more come back and let me know.
Semper Fi baby
Thank you I will research ... are most of these occuring in battle?
I think war in general is an atrocity.
Our role in the world is very different than Ireland's, would you agree?
What is Ireland's role in the world arena? I'm not sure, is there one?
I will enjoy learning about that, the positives.
Is Ireland guilty of atrocities as well? Was it against their own people or the
English? I'm not up on European history.
Perhaps your country as well is not free of shame and blame
but perhaps enjoys such on a much smaller scale ...
again Ireland the size of our state of Maine, can we compare?
Where's a Russian
So what would be your response if moonpig was American?
So what would be your response if moonpig was American?
Who knows, maybe he is. Or he may have dual citizenship. Wouldn't be the first American living abroad posting in this forum, would it?
Once bitten, twice shy? Doesn't seem to apply here.
Though I do think Moonpig is Irish, what is the relevance of this? Has one no valid arguments but xenophobic retorts?
Yeah seems weird that my citizenship should be an issue with respect to what opinions I have. And for the record, I do hold dual citizenship, the other not being the US of A, but to your free healthcare givin commie brothers to the north.
Although this should still not enable me to more of an opinion than I currently express.
Comments
their country's role in the world is like that of the US?
Is their country considered a super power?
Is their threat of violence as great as that of the US?
Is their military small for a reason?
Is ours large for a reason?
I do not think our military should be expanded and I think it should face cuts
as all the social programs, across the board. But we need to be able to put
our military back to work when they come home or it will be another hit
to unemployment therefore costing more. It's the people factor in our military
that matters, jobs for them must be there.
Some aspects of the divided ideology in our country
are very counterproductive and need to change.
Each party can do this but it starts with what the people expect
not with what our representatives do.
We can control both and here lies change.
well considering the atrocities committed by America in many parts of the world, I would say no, other countries are not as much at risk.
an other countries military may be small, given they distribute more funding to things that really matter, like health and education.
Such logic may make me a radical thinker lol
Sure, some do, and some dont.
I understand the importance, and I also know that the US $pend$ a TON more on military than most of the rest of the world. Mitt wants to expand the military, and spend more money. When was the last time the size and/or spending of our military been at a point where we were vulnerable? Its ridiculous, sorry, and I have friends and family in the military, but its just too much.
if not China then who?
I am a midwesterner, a Milwaukee girl living in the South. 35 years and growing up
there is the basis of who I am.
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog ... _feed.html
This was back in 2004, I didn't find anything more recent, this is what you speak of?
The article mentions it as "winning" to be doing so.
If I take that correctly that is the very heart of the mentality I am against.
We are the government and it is our money, not something to scam
nor drain, nor take from.
Get the Federal Govt out of whatever the States can do better and let's not be beholding.
Mitt reminded me of George H bush - 'read my lip'. Every republican has increased taxed on the middle class even when they said they werent before they were elected.. People fall for it everytime.
Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
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Of course facts only
I would think a country's military would be small because it is not needed therefore
funds are spent elsewhere.
Are you in a country that is an ally of ours?
Therefore we work alongside each other and you may benefit from our defense
if the need arises.
If indeed we come to help in a time of threat or great disaster
would that bring a different opinion of our military?
If your country has a need that we can fulfill? then a tune would change for you?
it's no secret the US military spending is WAY too much even considering the need to protect the country. The budget is more then Russia, China, England, Japan combined.. meanwhile the poverty rate and gap between rich and poor increases.. Hmmmm sounds a little like the soviet union to me.
Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
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http://edition.cnn.com/2012/09/25/world ... index.html
If you like slideshows:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29880401/The_Big ... bt?slide=1
Or lists:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/biggest-h ... -debt.html
Godfather.
"We're gonna bring back jobs and bring back America," Romney said at a rally in Abingdon, Va., Friday, before heading to a rally later in the day in Florida.
The Rasmussen surveys showed Romney leading by a hair in both those states
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10 ... z28SVgfT00
How about supreme court nominee's? Dems and repugs have eemed to be consistent on lib versus conservative justices.
Not a chance Romney wins. That is fox spin.
Sure;
Hiroshima and Nasaki
Canicatti massacre
Dachau massacre
Biscari massacre
No Gun Ri massacre
My Lai Massacre
Hue Massacre
Use of Agent Orange
Guantanamo Bay
Afghanistan:
Khost Province, Ali Daya; April 9, 2009
Kunar Province; December 26, 2009
Paktika Province; February 12, 2010
Kandahar; April 12, 2010
Khost Province; April 20, 2010
Iraq:
Haditha
Falluja
Bombings of Colon, San Miguelito and El Chorillo
Torture of POWs
Illegal detention of foreign nationals
That's just for now, best that you read up on your own time. If you need more come back and let me know.
Semper Fi baby
fox news has an agenda for romney to win... every other news station has said all along that Obama is winning in the swing states and slighlty overall. Would have to be a large turn around for Obama not to be a 2 term president.
Sha la la la i'm in love with a jersey girl
I love you forever and forever
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http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/201 ... ariation-1
It seriously boggles my mind that anyone wants Mitt Romney to be President. It was a relief when he was no longer our Governor here in MA. He had the lowest approval rating in MA history. I think this will turn back around, but it is disturbing to think Romney might be President, to say the least.
Good insight to the Romney Governorship (oh wait, it's NPR....damn liberals :roll: )
http://www.npr.org/2012/06/13/154583216 ... e-big-deal
Approval ratings:
"Approval ratings: The year he left office as Massachusetts Governor, Romney's approval hovered around 34 percent. "
want to be enlightened"
Be careful. There will be those that will tell you to keep your foreign mouth shut (Not I, of course). But maybe you can respond like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD0s-eKxUIY
I didn't vote for the guy, but that was excellent, I remember hearing it in the car on the way back from work and nearly crashed the car. Don't ever try to steal this man's lucky charms
yeahhh I know all that but for the love of Lassie I hope Romney gets it this time...and I say that with some hesitation...because as I get older I find hard to trust anybody in politics to do what is right the country as a whole.
Godfather.
Godfather.
That's ok, different opinions tend to annoy some people.
Thank you I will research ... are most of these occuring in battle?
I think war in general is an atrocity.
Our role in the world is very different than Ireland's, would you agree?
What is Ireland's role in the world arena? I'm not sure, is there one?
I will enjoy learning about that, the positives.
Is Ireland guilty of atrocities as well? Was it against their own people or the
English? I'm not up on European history.
Perhaps your country as well is not free of shame and blame
but perhaps enjoys such on a much smaller scale ...
again Ireland the size of our state of Maine, can we compare?
Where's a Russian
Back to topic...
After the debate I heard Romney earned 12 milion in campaign funds directly related
to how well he did.
Then I heard a couple days later how much our Presient earned in campaign funds
in the last month... holy crapola :shock:
those rich Democrats are turning out ...
guess all the nonprofits must be doing really well
So what would be your response if moonpig was American?
Who knows, maybe he is. Or he may have dual citizenship. Wouldn't be the first American living abroad posting in this forum, would it?
Once bitten, twice shy? Doesn't seem to apply here.
Though I do think Moonpig is Irish, what is the relevance of this? Has one no valid arguments but xenophobic retorts?
Yeah seems weird that my citizenship should be an issue with respect to what opinions I have. And for the record, I do hold dual citizenship, the other not being the US of A, but to your free healthcare givin commie brothers to the north.
Although this should still not enable me to more of an opinion than I currently express.