The 5 biggest lies told by Romney in the debate...

Jason P

josevolution wrote:

None of the Roomney voters will even come here and prove you wrong ....

At the same time, we should acknowledge the lies that Obama spoke of as well.

I understand if Obama is your guy .... but it's strange to call out Romney for lying when Obama is lying as well.

If two baseball teams are both using corked bats and stealing sings and there is blatant evidence against both teams ... would one team's fanbase make fun of the other fanbase for cheating?

whygohome

Jason P wrote:

josevolution wrote:

None of the Roomney voters will even come here and prove you wrong ....

At the same time, we should acknowledge the lies that Obama spoke of as well.

I understand if Obama is your guy .... but it's strange to call out Romney for lying when Obama is lying as well.

If two baseball teams are both using corked bats and stealing sings and there is blatant evidence against both teams ... would one team's fanbase make fun of the other fanbase for cheating?

Objectively speaking, it wasn't even close on the lies front. And, it's Obama's fault for not calling him out on it.

Prince Of Dorkness

Jason P wrote:

At the same time, we should acknowledge the lies that Obama spoke of as well.

Good idea.

You first.

Kat

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Stick to the TOPIC, not each other. :nono:

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gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i don't give obama enough credit to think that this was some sort of a rope a dope. nobody is that politically skilled. nobody can be that "deer in headlights" timid on cue and majically snap out of it 15 minutes after the debate... he was flustered and frustrated and it showed. he fucked up the debate. pure and simple. there is no excuse. he just did not show up. he had facts on his side last night. but he did not attack when clearly there was so much obama could have and should have said but didn't.

I think you're being a little hard on the guy. He didn't seem flustered and frustrated to me. He just seemed tired and a little less prepared (and less aggressive). I'm sure I'd be tired and less prepared too if I were busy being President. He did seem like he was being too nice, though, not bringing up the 47%, etc. And I keep hearing other people criticize him for looking down. I watched CNN, which only showed close-ups, but I assumed he was taking notes when he was looking down.

gimmesometruth27

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gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i don't give obama enough credit to think that this was some sort of a rope a dope. nobody is that politically skilled. nobody can be that "deer in headlights" timid on cue and majically snap out of it 15 minutes after the debate... he was flustered and frustrated and it showed. he fucked up the debate. pure and simple. there is no excuse. he just did not show up. he had facts on his side last night. but he did not attack when clearly there was so much obama could have and should have said but didn't.

I think you're being a little hard on the guy. He didn't seem flustered and frustrated to me. He just seemed tired and a little less prepared (and less aggressive). I'm sure I'd be tired and less prepared too if I were busy being President. He did seem like he was being too nice, though, not bringing up the 47%, etc. And I keep hearing other people criticize him for looking down. I watched CNN, which only showed close-ups, but I assumed he was taking notes when he was looking down.

obama shit the bed last night. but i have listened to some of the exchanges again and now that i digest a little of what was said last night, i do not think that obama gave romney any ammo to use in ads. i do not think that obama made any huge gaffes or compromised the positions that he has maintained throughout the campaign. romney went waaaay moderate last night and that is going to alienate some in the gop base and that gave obama some ammo to hammer him on in ads. not to mention the outright lies that romney's own advisors admitted to today, like romney's health care plan will NOT cover pre-existing conditions.

whygohome

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

_ wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i don't give obama enough credit to think that this was some sort of a rope a dope. nobody is that politically skilled. nobody can be that "deer in headlights" timid on cue and majically snap out of it 15 minutes after the debate... he was flustered and frustrated and it showed. he fucked up the debate. pure and simple. there is no excuse. he just did not show up. he had facts on his side last night. but he did not attack when clearly there was so much obama could have and should have said but didn't.

I think you're being a little hard on the guy. He didn't seem flustered and frustrated to me. He just seemed tired and a little less prepared (and less aggressive). I'm sure I'd be tired and less prepared too if I were busy being President. He did seem like he was being too nice, though, not bringing up the 47%, etc. And I keep hearing other people criticize him for looking down. I watched CNN, which only showed close-ups, but I assumed he was taking notes when he was looking down.

obama shit the bed last night. but i have listened to some of the exchanges again and now that i digest a little of what was said last night, i do not think that obama gave romney any ammo to use in ads. i do not think that obama made any huge gaffes or compromised the positions that he has maintained throughout the campaign. romney went waaaay moderate last night and that is going to alienate some in the gop base and that gave obama some ammo to hammer him on in ads. not to mention the outright lies that romney's own advisors admitted to today, like romney's health care plan will NOT cover pre-existing conditions.

Obama has to hit him when he mentions the food stamps figures.
Do these people want to be on food stamps? Are these the victims? Romney's 47% comments were insulting, degrading, and patronizing; but, that's how some people who were born with 9 sets of silver spoons can be.

Obama has to make it clear that these people had nothing to do with the economic collapse; that these people are the foundation of society; that they are hard-working individuals who were unfortunately at the mercy of a corrupt banking system and an anti-american group of Wall Streeters who put profits ahead of the country.

Let's not forget that Wall St. and the banks, and the hedge funds, mortgage companies, etc, pulled all this shit after our country got its ass kicked on 9/11. Some patriots!

g under p

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

i don't give obama enough credit to think that this was some sort of a rope a dope. nobody is that politically skilled. nobody can be that "deer in headlights" timid on cue and majically snap out of it 15 minutes after the debate... he was flustered and frustrated and it showed. he fucked up the debate. pure and simple. there is no excuse. he just did not show up. he had facts on his side last night. but he did not attack when clearly there was so much obama could have and should have said but didn't.

This is what I believe will be the ultimate result.....a bit of the Rope A Dope basically a set up for the finish. Even though debates rarely change minds but this election these debates are more like a chess match rather than checkers. Romney took out Obama's bishop last night but a trap might be in place with that loss. it's not how you start it's how you finish and do remember Foreman ended up on the canvas and was unable to get before the count of ten....just looking up at Ali wondering how did you outsmart like this.

With a tighter race those casual voters just might get concerned enough to get off their toukas and get out and vote.


Peace