Is there a reason to have the debates?

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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,683
    Jim Lehrer is not moderating this very well. He keeps letting Romney get the last word even when he had his turn
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  • RFTC
    RFTC Posts: 723
    romney won this debate hands down
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Hey, idman :wave:

    Yeah, Jim didn't seem necessarily overwhelmed, but not presiding over this as it seemed he wanted to be, as he has in the past.

    For me, some good insight into both men.

    Can't wait to see the analyses of the body language hoopla that I'm sure shall ensue.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    A) I can't wait for fact check....

    B) It's hard to debate a liar.....

    C) I don't want a voucher system for Medicaid....
  • aerial
    aerial Posts: 2,319
    inmytree wrote:
    A) I can't wait for fact check....

    B) It's hard to debate a liar.....

    C) I don't want a voucher system for Medicaid....


    Do you really need fact check?
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    inmytree wrote:
    A) I can't wait for fact check....
    That's one of the comments my guy and I bet would be made here.

    I won :P
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,683
    hedonist wrote:
    Hey, idman :wave:

    Yeah, Jim didn't seem necessarily overwhelmed, but not presiding over this as it seemed he wanted to be, as he has in the past.

    For me, some good insight into both men.

    Can't wait to see the analyses of the body language hoopla that I'm sure shall ensue.

    me? IH
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,683
    This.
    inmytree wrote:

    B) It's hard to debate a liar.....
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  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    inmytree wrote:
    A) I can't wait for fact check....

    B) It's hard to debate a liar.....

    This can't be bumped enough. BUT, Obama should have pounced on him. He left far too many openings pass him by.

    Romney took the Chris Christie approach: be a blowhard and forget about substance and facts.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    aerial wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    A) I can't wait for fact check....

    B) It's hard to debate a liar.....

    C) I don't want a voucher system for Medicaid....


    Do you really need fact check?

    I don't, but you do....

    I know Mittens fibbed about his tax plan...do you...?
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    If that debate was a 12 round boxing match, Romney won 10 rounds to 2 (and that is being conservative).
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Jason P wrote:
    If that debate was a 12 round boxing match, Romney won 10 rounds to 2 (and that is being conservative).

    Obama isn't stupid. He and his team know these debates go for four rounds. Romney may feel confident now, but Obama will analyze the first debate, take note of all of Romney's lies, and slap him down hard like a red-headed stepchild in the closing stages.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    If that debate was a 12 round boxing match, Romney won 10 rounds to 2 (and that is being conservative).

    Obama isn't stupid. He and his team know these debates go for four rounds. Romney may feel confident now, but Obama will analyze the first debate, take note of all of Romney's lies, and slap him down hard like a red-headed stepchild in the closing stages.
    Time will tell.

    I assume you watched the debates. Obama has a lot of work to do and he is not in his element when he doesn't have a script to follow. Romney is clearly more comfortable and prepared in this setting. Obama couldn't even control his body language.

    I just don't know if it's possible for a human to improve a skill set in a few days to match another human who appears to excel in that skill set. It's like getting killed in a free throw shooting contest and then claim you will win the rematch with a few days of practice.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Jason P wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    If that debate was a 12 round boxing match, Romney won 10 rounds to 2 (and that is being conservative).

    Obama isn't stupid. He and his team know these debates go for four rounds. Romney may feel confident now, but Obama will analyze the first debate, take note of all of Romney's lies, and slap him down hard like a red-headed stepchild in the closing stages.
    Time will tell.

    I assume you watched the debates. Obama has a lot of work to do and he is not in his element when he doesn't have a script to follow. Romney is clearly more comfortable and prepared in this setting. Obama couldn't even control his body language.

    I just don't know if it's possible for a human to improve a skill set in a few days to match another human who appears to excel in that skill set. It's like getting killed in a free throw shooting contest and then claim you will win the rematch with a few days of practice.

    To be honest I only saw about 10 minutes worth of clips. Not sure I could be assed to watch the whole thing. They're not my Presidents after all. And I'm planning to watch 'Batman - The Dark Knight' in a minute, as I've not seen it before, and I liked the latest one. 8-)
  • mydogmookieblaylock
    mydogmookieblaylock Posts: 2,996
    Obama was trying to appeal to the pot vote -- he might as well say "uh, uh, uuuuuuuhhhhhh I'm gonna legalize it"
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    When Romney declared he was going to raise military spending, Obama should have hit back by "how much?" and how do you intend to balance the budget by raising military spending without touching either social security, medicare, or medicade.

    :fp:
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Maybe Romney's plan to increase military spending will be offset by him cutting funding to Big Bird.

    How many parts for a F-35 Lighting II can we get once we reap the massive saving by cutting the funding to PBS?

    Part of a wing and a ejector seat?

    :fp:
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  • FattyFatCat
    FattyFatCat Posts: 171
    Jason P wrote:
    Maybe Romney's plan to increase military spending will be offset by him cutting funding to Big Bird.

    How many parts for a F-35 Lighting II can we get once we reap the massive saving by cutting the funding to PBS?

    Part of a wing and a ejector seat?

    :fp:


    $90 Billion to Solyndra = 2,000,000,000 teachers that couldve been hired.

    $90 Billion to Solyndra = 50 years of oil subsidies


    Give the businessman a chance...
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    OK, funding for PBS was $445M in 2012 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation_for_Public_Broadcasting)

    We can almost buy two F-35 fighter jets which cost $238M each .... even though fighter jets don't play a real role in the wars we are currently fighting .... and even though the jets are grounded over safety concerns that the pilots are passing out for reasons unknown .... and the US is planning to buy 2,443 of them.

    :fp:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II
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  • goingtoverona
    goingtoverona Posts: 616
    personally my vote goes to the candidate with the best ass. i've made up my mind visually, but the question is, how do i get in for a squeeze?
    if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.

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