If that debate was a 12 round boxing match, Romney won 10 rounds to 2 (and that is being conservative).
Obama isn't stupid. He and his team know these debates go for four rounds. Romney may feel confident now, but Obama will analyze the first debate, take note of all of Romney's lies, and slap him down hard like a red-headed stepchild in the closing stages.
If that debate was a 12 round boxing match, Romney won 10 rounds to 2 (and that is being conservative).
Obama isn't stupid. He and his team know these debates go for four rounds. Romney may feel confident now, but Obama will analyze the first debate, take note of all of Romney's lies, and slap him down hard like a red-headed stepchild in the closing stages.
Time will tell.
I assume you watched the debates. Obama has a lot of work to do and he is not in his element when he doesn't have a script to follow. Romney is clearly more comfortable and prepared in this setting. Obama couldn't even control his body language.
I just don't know if it's possible for a human to improve a skill set in a few days to match another human who appears to excel in that skill set. It's like getting killed in a free throw shooting contest and then claim you will win the rematch with a few days of practice.
If that debate was a 12 round boxing match, Romney won 10 rounds to 2 (and that is being conservative).
Obama isn't stupid. He and his team know these debates go for four rounds. Romney may feel confident now, but Obama will analyze the first debate, take note of all of Romney's lies, and slap him down hard like a red-headed stepchild in the closing stages.
Time will tell.
I assume you watched the debates. Obama has a lot of work to do and he is not in his element when he doesn't have a script to follow. Romney is clearly more comfortable and prepared in this setting. Obama couldn't even control his body language.
I just don't know if it's possible for a human to improve a skill set in a few days to match another human who appears to excel in that skill set. It's like getting killed in a free throw shooting contest and then claim you will win the rematch with a few days of practice.
To be honest I only saw about 10 minutes worth of clips. Not sure I could be assed to watch the whole thing. They're not my Presidents after all. And I'm planning to watch 'Batman - The Dark Knight' in a minute, as I've not seen it before, and I liked the latest one.
When Romney declared he was going to raise military spending, Obama should have hit back by "how much?" and how do you intend to balance the budget by raising military spending without touching either social security, medicare, or medicade.
We can almost buy two F-35 fighter jets which cost $238M each .... even though fighter jets don't play a real role in the wars we are currently fighting .... and even though the jets are grounded over safety concerns that the pilots are passing out for reasons unknown .... and the US is planning to buy 2,443 of them.
We can almost buy two F-35 fighter jets which cost $238M each .... even though fighter jets don't play a real role in the wars we are currently fighting .... and even though the jets are grounded over safety concerns that the pilots are passing out for reasons unknown .... and the US is planning to buy 2,443 of them.
from yahoo news......
Yes, it was as bad as it seemed.
No, it wasn’t Jim Lehrer’s fault for letting Romney expound; Obama got more time (four minutes more) than Romney. Besides, it’s not the moderator’s job to call a debater out on questionable assertions. It’s the opponent’s job.
Yes, it wasn’t the best atmospherics for Obama to look down, purse his lips, appear distracted, while Romney was attentive, engaged, relaxed. But this was much more than atmospherics. This was about one candidate who came with a frame for the evening, and who was prepared to engage on every question; and another who, perhaps because of his documented faith in his own abilities, felt he could wing it with snatches of familiar verbiage.
Most surprising, the whole evening felt as if Obama thought he was back in 2008, needing only to demonstrate a sense of cool, calm collectedness to persuade the voters that they could do what they desperately wanted to do: change course.
There was barely a moment when Obama offered any sense that he was prepared to challenge Romney on his weakest point: who does the Republican presidential nominee speak for? How much (or little) does he understand where the country is, how it got here?
Even on the most basic political points, Obama seemed clueless. When you argue as a Democrat that you and your Republican opponent share wide areas of agreement on Social Security—especially when recipients make up a chunk of Romney’s “47 percent” of indolent spongers—you have thrown in a fistful of high cards.
What remains is one key question that the next 48 to 72 hours will answer: Did this debate change the minds of significant numbers of voters? Assuming that the flash polls are right—that most viewers thought Romney won the debate—did they regard that as a loss for “their” team, or did it persuade some of them to change their minds about whom they are supporting,
One of the enduring myths of campaign analysis is that you can actually count the number of “undecided” voters by asking voters if they are undecided or not. Sometimes, significant numbers of voters actually change their minds. That’s how Reagan turned a small lead into a landslide in 1980. It’s how Gore won the popular vote in 2000, and how Kerry got back into the race in 2004.
If this debate—as one-sided as any I have ever seen—does not change the landscape, if Obama retains a small but measurable lead, it means that the election is more or less over (barring some overwhelmingly consequential event), that voters have decided they are going to stick with the President. That is thin gruel on which the Obama campaign must dine for the next few days; but after this debacle, it’s the only sustenance on the menu.
$90 Billion to Solyndra = 2,000,000,000 teachers that couldve been hired.
$90 Billion to Solyndra = 50 years of oil subsidies
From what I have gather, the Solyndra loan was $535 million. It's still a boatload of money that was wasted, but nowhere close to $90 billion.
$90 billion refers to the overall clean energy stimulus that Obama enacted. If anything, the money should be used to build massive solar fields in the southwest. But technically, the money doesn't even exist as we are $1.5 trillion in debt each year.
Obama appeared to have not taken this debate very seriously - he really didn't come out and compete - he sat back - to 20 seconds to start talking - and then didn't have much to say -- clearly he feels he has this in the bag and is asking the same question as OP on this thread
Obama appeared to have not taken this debate very seriously - he really didn't come out and compete - he sat back - to 20 seconds to start talking - and then didn't have much to say -- clearly he feels he has this in the bag and is asking the same question as OP on this thread
A terrible attitude to have.
He had so many chances to call Romney out on blatant lies and didn't do it.
Is there another plan that we don't know about?
very strange performance
Obama appeared to have not taken this debate very seriously - he really didn't come out and compete - he sat back - to 20 seconds to start talking - and then didn't have much to say -- clearly he feels he has this in the bag and is asking the same question as OP on this thread
Obama is not that smart. He's a professional bullshitter whose fancy words fooled a lot of people.
Last night he was exposed for what he is: A bad student. Lazy. Arrogant. Petulant. Overwhelmed.
If he had done one thing right in 4 years, Im sure he would have mentioned it. But....
Obama appeared to have not taken this debate very seriously - he really didn't come out and compete - he sat back - to 20 seconds to start talking - and then didn't have much to say -- clearly he feels he has this in the bag and is asking the same question as OP on this thread
This was my thought. I wondered if he thought it was Romney's debate and Romney's election to lose and that if he played it safe that he wouldn't "lose" even if he didn't "win" the debate. The comment has been made here several times but do the debates really change your mind about who you are voting for in November? It didn't change mine at all
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
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Obama isn't stupid. He and his team know these debates go for four rounds. Romney may feel confident now, but Obama will analyze the first debate, take note of all of Romney's lies, and slap him down hard like a red-headed stepchild in the closing stages.
I assume you watched the debates. Obama has a lot of work to do and he is not in his element when he doesn't have a script to follow. Romney is clearly more comfortable and prepared in this setting. Obama couldn't even control his body language.
I just don't know if it's possible for a human to improve a skill set in a few days to match another human who appears to excel in that skill set. It's like getting killed in a free throw shooting contest and then claim you will win the rematch with a few days of practice.
To be honest I only saw about 10 minutes worth of clips. Not sure I could be assed to watch the whole thing. They're not my Presidents after all. And I'm planning to watch 'Batman - The Dark Knight' in a minute, as I've not seen it before, and I liked the latest one.
:fp:
How many parts for a F-35 Lighting II can we get once we reap the massive saving by cutting the funding to PBS?
Part of a wing and a ejector seat?
:fp:
$90 Billion to Solyndra = 2,000,000,000 teachers that couldve been hired.
$90 Billion to Solyndra = 50 years of oil subsidies
Give the businessman a chance...
We can almost buy two F-35 fighter jets which cost $238M each .... even though fighter jets don't play a real role in the wars we are currently fighting .... and even though the jets are grounded over safety concerns that the pilots are passing out for reasons unknown .... and the US is planning to buy 2,443 of them.
:fp:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin_F-35_Lightning_II
Truth is, I think I already cast my vote for president back in the primaries.
http://news.yahoo.com/fact-check-presidential-debate-missteps-015421565.html
Id take two F-35s over Jim Lehrer any day.
But Im into cool toys...
Can I broker the sale of an Audi R8 to you? They usually go for $200K but I can get you one for $400K. Oh, and the engine is missing some parts.
Yes, it was as bad as it seemed.
No, it wasn’t Jim Lehrer’s fault for letting Romney expound; Obama got more time (four minutes more) than Romney. Besides, it’s not the moderator’s job to call a debater out on questionable assertions. It’s the opponent’s job.
Yes, it wasn’t the best atmospherics for Obama to look down, purse his lips, appear distracted, while Romney was attentive, engaged, relaxed. But this was much more than atmospherics. This was about one candidate who came with a frame for the evening, and who was prepared to engage on every question; and another who, perhaps because of his documented faith in his own abilities, felt he could wing it with snatches of familiar verbiage.
Most surprising, the whole evening felt as if Obama thought he was back in 2008, needing only to demonstrate a sense of cool, calm collectedness to persuade the voters that they could do what they desperately wanted to do: change course.
There was barely a moment when Obama offered any sense that he was prepared to challenge Romney on his weakest point: who does the Republican presidential nominee speak for? How much (or little) does he understand where the country is, how it got here?
Even on the most basic political points, Obama seemed clueless. When you argue as a Democrat that you and your Republican opponent share wide areas of agreement on Social Security—especially when recipients make up a chunk of Romney’s “47 percent” of indolent spongers—you have thrown in a fistful of high cards.
What remains is one key question that the next 48 to 72 hours will answer: Did this debate change the minds of significant numbers of voters? Assuming that the flash polls are right—that most viewers thought Romney won the debate—did they regard that as a loss for “their” team, or did it persuade some of them to change their minds about whom they are supporting,
One of the enduring myths of campaign analysis is that you can actually count the number of “undecided” voters by asking voters if they are undecided or not. Sometimes, significant numbers of voters actually change their minds. That’s how Reagan turned a small lead into a landslide in 1980. It’s how Gore won the popular vote in 2000, and how Kerry got back into the race in 2004.
If this debate—as one-sided as any I have ever seen—does not change the landscape, if Obama retains a small but measurable lead, it means that the election is more or less over (barring some overwhelmingly consequential event), that voters have decided they are going to stick with the President. That is thin gruel on which the Obama campaign must dine for the next few days; but after this debacle, it’s the only sustenance on the menu.
$90 billion refers to the overall clean energy stimulus that Obama enacted. If anything, the money should be used to build massive solar fields in the southwest. But technically, the money doesn't even exist as we are $1.5 trillion in debt each year.
A terrible attitude to have.
He had so many chances to call Romney out on blatant lies and didn't do it.
Is there another plan that we don't know about?
very strange performance
Obama is not that smart. He's a professional bullshitter whose fancy words fooled a lot of people.
Last night he was exposed for what he is: A bad student. Lazy. Arrogant. Petulant. Overwhelmed.
If he had done one thing right in 4 years, Im sure he would have mentioned it. But....
I love comments like this.......
This was my thought. I wondered if he thought it was Romney's debate and Romney's election to lose and that if he played it safe that he wouldn't "lose" even if he didn't "win" the debate. The comment has been made here several times but do the debates really change your mind about who you are voting for in November? It didn't change mine at all
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE