Will religion one day disappear?

whygohome
whygohome Posts: 2,305
edited September 2012 in A Moving Train
I found myself watching some Neil Degrasse Tyson lectures on religion (which then led to watching some Hitchens and Dawkins videos) and it got me thinking about a question I often ask myself, and a question that my friends and I often discuss: when will religion disappear?

Now, you can look at that as "when will religion disappear as a force in society/politics/culture," or as "when will religion disappear as Greek/Roman/Egyptian Mythology has disappeared?"

Some interesting reads that I found after watching Degrasse Tyson's lectures.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... oolishness

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/ ... ainsection

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/2 ... s-predict/

What do you think?
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  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    whygohome wrote:
    I found myself watching some Neil Degrasse Tyson lectures on religion (which then led to watching some Hitchens and Dawkins videos) and it got me thinking about a question I often ask myself, and a question that my friends and I often discuss: when will religion disappear?

    Now, you can look at that as "when will religion disappear as a force in society/politics/culture," or as "when will religion disappear as Greek/Roman/Egyptian Mythology has disappeared?"

    Some interesting reads that I found after watching Degrasse Tyson's lectures.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... oolishness

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/ ... ainsection

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/2 ... s-predict/

    What do you think?


    Never. Because it's based, at least in part, (and to varying degrees) in truth.
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  • I hope soon and take all the nuts with it ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I don't have ample time right now to read the links you posted, but I sure hope this discussion can remain respectful of those who are peacefully religious.

    Anything else would be pretty fucking rude.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    hedonist wrote:
    I don't have ample time right now to read the links you posted, but I sure hope this discussion can remain respectful of those who are peacefully religious.

    Anything else would be pretty fucking rude.
    I checked the odds .... Vegas is too scared to even post a point spread.

    LET IT BEGIN!

    :corn:
    Be Excellent To Each Other
    Party On, Dudes!
  • When there are no more humans to practice it.

    The way we're going.. shouldn't be too long.

    Next Tuesday.
  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    inlet13 wrote:
    whygohome wrote:
    I found myself watching some Neil Degrasse Tyson lectures on religion (which then led to watching some Hitchens and Dawkins videos) and it got me thinking about a question I often ask myself, and a question that my friends and I often discuss: when will religion disappear?

    Now, you can look at that as "when will religion disappear as a force in society/politics/culture," or as "when will religion disappear as Greek/Roman/Egyptian Mythology has disappeared?"

    Some interesting reads that I found after watching Degrasse Tyson's lectures.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... oolishness

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/ ... ainsection

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/2 ... s-predict/

    What do you think?


    Never. Because it's based, at least in part, (and to varying degrees) in truth.

    OKay . Truth or truth? What are these T/truths you speak of?

    And why is Christianity, or Islam, or Judaism any different than Greek/Roman Mythology? (or Scientology for that matter)
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    whygohome wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    whygohome wrote:
    I found myself watching some Neil Degrasse Tyson lectures on religion (which then led to watching some Hitchens and Dawkins videos) and it got me thinking about a question I often ask myself, and a question that my friends and I often discuss: when will religion disappear?

    Now, you can look at that as "when will religion disappear as a force in society/politics/culture," or as "when will religion disappear as Greek/Roman/Egyptian Mythology has disappeared?"

    Some interesting reads that I found after watching Degrasse Tyson's lectures.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... oolishness

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/ ... ainsection

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/2 ... s-predict/

    What do you think?


    Never. Because it's based, at least in part, (and to varying degrees) in truth.

    OKay . Truth or truth? What are these T/truths you speak of?

    And why is Christianity, or Islam, or Judaism any different than Greek/Roman Mythology? (or Scientology for that matter)

    The truth?

    An origin.

    Explain the creation of all we know without it.
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  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    hedonist wrote:
    I don't have ample time right now to read the links you posted, but I sure hope this discussion can remain respectful of those who are peacefully religious.

    Anything else would be pretty fucking rude.

    It better, or else I will beat the living...............
  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    inlet13 wrote:
    whygohome wrote:

    OKay . Truth or truth? What are these T/truths you speak of?

    And why is Christianity, or Islam, or Judaism any different than Greek/Roman Mythology? (or Scientology for that matter)

    The truth?

    An origin.

    Explain the creation of all we know without it.

    Origin as truth (or Truth).

    A fish emerging from the sea? Or Eden?

    I can't explain it. I am just a blob of biology that will be gone forever in 100 years; my lifetime of 80 or so years is as insignificant as a single grain of sand at Jones Beach.
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    whygohome wrote:
    I found myself watching some Neil Degrasse Tyson lectures on religion (which then led to watching some Hitchens and Dawkins videos) and it got me thinking about a question I often ask myself, and a question that my friends and I often discuss: when will religion disappear?

    Now, you can look at that as "when will religion disappear as a force in society/politics/culture," or as "when will religion disappear as Greek/Roman/Egyptian Mythology has disappeared?"

    Some interesting reads that I found after watching Degrasse Tyson's lectures.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... oolishness

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/ ... ainsection

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/2 ... s-predict/

    What do you think?

    grow up.

    Godfather.
  • When will religion disappear? Hmmmmm, maybe after science can provide what was happening before the big bang. Smoke a bowl and ponder that one for a while. God seems an easier choice.

    The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08

  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    Godfather. wrote:
    whygohome wrote:
    I found myself watching some Neil Degrasse Tyson lectures on religion (which then led to watching some Hitchens and Dawkins videos) and it got me thinking about a question I often ask myself, and a question that my friends and I often discuss: when will religion disappear?

    Now, you can look at that as "when will religion disappear as a force in society/politics/culture," or as "when will religion disappear as Greek/Roman/Egyptian Mythology has disappeared?"

    Some interesting reads that I found after watching Degrasse Tyson's lectures.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... oolishness

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/ ... ainsection

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/2 ... s-predict/

    What do you think?

    grow up.

    Godfather.

    Explain. Would you tell Neil Degrasse Tyson, a leading astrophysicist, to grow up?
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,623
    inlet13 wrote:
    whygohome wrote:
    I found myself watching some Neil Degrasse Tyson lectures on religion (which then led to watching some Hitchens and Dawkins videos) and it got me thinking about a question I often ask myself, and a question that my friends and I often discuss: when will religion disappear?

    Now, you can look at that as "when will religion disappear as a force in society/politics/culture," or as "when will religion disappear as Greek/Roman/Egyptian Mythology has disappeared?"

    Some interesting reads that I found after watching Degrasse Tyson's lectures.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... oolishness

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/ ... ainsection

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/2 ... s-predict/

    What do you think?


    Never. Because it's based, at least in part, (and to varying degrees) in truth.

    No, because it's based in faith (or at least should be).
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    whygohome wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:
    whygohome wrote:

    OKay . Truth or truth? What are these T/truths you speak of?

    And why is Christianity, or Islam, or Judaism any different than Greek/Roman Mythology? (or Scientology for that matter)

    The truth?

    An origin.

    Explain the creation of all we know without it.

    Origin as truth (or Truth).

    A fish emerging from the sea? Or Eden?

    I can't explain it. I am just a blob of biology that will be gone forever in 100 years; my lifetime of 80 or so years is as insignificant as a single grain of sand at Jones Beach.



    Explain the beginning.


    Seriously, you started a thread on religion and asked when it would go away (not that that could be taken the wrong way or anything :roll: ). I responded - never, because it's somewhat based in a truth. You asked what truth? I said - an origin.

    Then you responded with this gibberish above.

    So, let me elaborate again:

    Religion has an explanation of the origin of time and matter and space. I'm asking for a real alternative that explains how ALL came to be.
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  • It won't it will just morph. You already provided plenty examples of this and how far back do they go????
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  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    I understand the tone of the AMT, and inlet13 pointed out that my thread title could be taken the worng way, so I have amended it. I meant this thread as a serious discussion.
  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    edited September 2012
    inlet13 wrote:

    Explain the beginning.

    Seriously, you started a thread on religion and asked when it would go away (not that that could be taken the wrong way or anything :roll: ). I responded - never, because it's somewhat based in a truth. You asked what truth? I said - an origin.

    Then you responded with this gibberish above.

    So, let me elaborate again:

    Religion has an explanation of the origin of time and matter and space. I'm asking for a real alternative that explains how ALL came to be.

    Come on , dude. "Gibberish?" Eye-rolling? You're better than that.

    Just because religion has an explanation, does not make it truth. That would be, as Gobeavers said, faith. However, some may take it as truth.....but it still does not mean it is Truth

    I don't have an explanation. That is way beyond my capabilities. But, I am not going to have faith in a doctrine because it has a creation story.
    Post edited by whygohome on
  • whygohome
    whygohome Posts: 2,305
    It won't it will just morph. You already provided plenty examples of this and how far back do they go????

    Good point. That brings up another question that I simply cannot handle at the moment: what will it morph into? If the influence of religion is seen as waning, then I feel it may morph into something more extreme, as we see today. Any more extreme would be scary.
  • inlet13
    inlet13 Posts: 1,979
    whygohome wrote:
    inlet13 wrote:

    Explain the beginning.

    Seriously, you started a thread on religion and asked when it would go away (not that that could be taken the wrong way or anything :roll: ). I responded - never, because it's somewhat based in a truth. You asked what truth? I said - an origin.

    Then you responded with this gibberish above.

    So, let me elaborate again:

    Religion has an explanation of the origin of time and matter and space. I'm asking for a real alternative that explains how ALL came to be.

    Come on , dude. "Gibberish?" Eye-rolling? You're better than that.

    Just because religion has an explanation, does not make it truth. That would be, as Gobeavers said, faith. However, some may take it as truth.....but it still does not mean it is Truth

    I don't have an explanation. That is way beyond my capabilities. But, I am not going to have faith in a doctrine because it has a creation story.

    Yes. Gibberish - you're previous response didn't get at what I was talking about, instead it talked about fish walking or something like that.

    I was talking about the origin of time, space, matter, and all that is. I don't think it's faith actually. I think it's math.

    You don't get 1 from zero. There was an origin, a catalyst. Call it what you will. If you don't like the term God- call it the force or walking fish for all I care.
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  • BinauralJam
    BinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    I think it will, probably not until the anunnaki show up and explain how were are all just genetically engineered slaves to mind gold.

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