Jury Duty

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,772
    I am dying to be called for jury duty. I think it would be an interesting change of pace! I'd love to get on a jury and have a break from the office for a few weeks or months!! I don't think it would actually be FUN, but it could certainly be intriguing ... sigh. I think I need a good long vacation. :lol:
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  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    I am dying to be called for jury duty. I think it would be an interesting change of pace! I'd love to get on a jury and have a break from the office for a few weeks or months!! I don't think it would actually be FUN, but it could certainly be intriguing ... sigh. I think I need a good long vacation. :lol:


    Why is that those of us dying to serve never get called? Although, I think you're right - intriguing more than fun!
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • comebackgirl
    comebackgirl Posts: 9,885
    riotgrl wrote:
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    I am dying to be called for jury duty. I think it would be an interesting change of pace! I'd love to get on a jury and have a break from the office for a few weeks or months!! I don't think it would actually be FUN, but it could certainly be intriguing ... sigh. I think I need a good long vacation. :lol:


    Why is that those of us dying to serve never get called? Although, I think you're right - intriguing more than fun!
    oh I get called...every 3 years like clockwork...they just never pick me :x :lol: I get a lot of reading done though :P
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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Pick me! I'm pretty much pre-law :lol:
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    Pick me! I'm pretty much pre-law :lol:


    that could end up being a reason for your exclusion if you were ever called.
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  • Prince Of Dorkness
    Prince Of Dorkness Posts: 3,763
    The Fixer wrote:
    Your first paragraph is confusing. not sure what your point is.


    My point is that unemployment is not a "hand out."

    A hand-out is something that isn't deserved. Isn't paid for.

    Do you consider insurance to be a hand-out? When you get in a car accident and your health insurance and car insurance pay for your broken leg and your car to be fixed, do people call that a "hand-out program" and suggest that you don't really deserve it?
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  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    I have only ever been called once...it was cancelled before I had to go...but I have no interest in Jury duty...mostly because I am not 1 for just sitting still...I mostly likely would nod off or tune out. Plus I'd be bad jurer...I have an incredible mistrust of police, lawyers and judges.
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  • peacefrompaul
    peacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    catefrances wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    Pick me! I'm pretty much pre-law :lol:


    that could end up being a reason for your exclusion if you were ever called.

    Balls.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    comebackgirl wrote:
    riotgrl wrote:
    And I've never been called and would actually love to! I agree with the duty part but I just want to be invovled with a case firsthand. It seems like it would be interesting....or myabe I've watched to much TV :think: :-D
    I would love to be involved with a case firsthand too. My brother-in-law just sat on a jury for a sexual abuse case. It went on for weeks...they had to take road trips to crime scenes and everything. I doubt they would ever call me for a case like that. Serving grand jury seems cool too - I think it's once a week for 26 weeks. My work would throw a fit, but would be really interesting to be involved at that level.

    that sounds like torture.

    I enjoy my job. Taking me away from work for a month would really piss me off
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Prince Of Dorkness wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Your first paragraph is confusing. not sure what your point is.


    My point is that unemployment is not a "hand out."

    A hand-out is something that isn't deserved. Isn't paid for.

    Do you consider insurance to be a hand-out? When you get in a car accident and your health insurance and car insurance pay for your broken leg and your car to be fixed, do people call that a "hand-out program" and suggest that you don't really deserve it?

    I think insurance is almost as big of a scam as organized religion.

    I see your point, but I'm biased in my opinion. Insurance (all kinds) shoudl be a choice, not a requirement. I hate being told what to do...especially by the govt.

    as for unemp...there should be some kind of ratio that determines how much you are eligible to collect based off of how much you've paid in taxes over the years. and there should be more stringent requirements that people must fulfill in order to obtain govt assistance (volunteer work, jury duty, drug testing, etc)
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

    Simple as that. We all get that right, we all have to serve when needed. Hassle for sure at time but almost as old as our country
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    had to report for jury duty yesterday. showed up at 830 and had to stay until 430.

    were probably 500 people there who were forced to report. I was one of 36 selected for a civil case. of the 36, 12 would be selected to sit on the jury for this case. the judge estimated the case would take a week (I was NOT happy when I heard this!!). Case was a bunch of stone masons who were suing each other. Seemed like a bunch of rocket scientists, which made my being there even less appealing (as if that was possible).

    They began interviewing potential jurors around 10 AM. I was juror 32 of 36, so I was at the end of the line. Around 3 PM they stopped interviewing at juror 26, so I was not selected to sit on the trial. Thank god.

    All in all it was a complete waste of my time. I was stuck in a room the entire day. Not allowed to make phone calls or use my laptop to send emails. I'm just glad it's over. Hopefully I never have to do that again.
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

    Simple as that. We all get that right, we all have to serve when needed. Hassle for sure at time but almost as old as our country

    Just because something is old doesn't make it good. There have to be better ways to work this system. One of the guys selected to sit on the trial was livid that he was picked. Kinda funny since I got out of it.

    I'm telling you what...I was so frustrated that I had to be there I felt like if I was picked I was going to push for guilty. Wrong, but that's how I felt.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    The Fixer wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

    Simple as that. We all get that right, we all have to serve when needed. Hassle for sure at time but almost as old as our country

    Just because something is old doesn't make it good. There have to be better ways to work this system. One of the guys selected to sit on the trial was livid that he was picked. Kinda funny since I got out of it.

    I'm telling you what...I was so frustrated that I had to be there I felt like if I was picked I was going to push for guilty. Wrong, but that's how I felt.

    I agree, but the right to a fair trial by a jury of your peers is not one that is out of date. It's the foundation of our system. Not sure how that can be argued. Just because things are a hassle, it does not make them wrong.

    What sense does that make? Expecially since it was a civil trial?
  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

    Simple as that. We all get that right, we all have to serve when needed. Hassle for sure at time but almost as old as our country

    Just because something is old doesn't make it good. There have to be better ways to work this system. One of the guys selected to sit on the trial was livid that he was picked. Kinda funny since I got out of it.

    I'm telling you what...I was so frustrated that I had to be there I felt like if I was picked I was going to push for guilty. Wrong, but that's how I felt.

    I agree, but the right to a fair trial by a jury of your peers is not one that is out of date. It's the foundation of our system. Not sure how that can be argued. Just because things are a hassle, it does not make them wrong.

    What sense does that make? Expecially since it was a civil trial?

    I was already biased against whoever filed the lawsuit and forced me to be there. I was all ready to say this to the judge during my interview

    anyway, I'm glad it's over with. In PA I am only excused for a year and a day.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,036
    edited September 2012
    The Fixer wrote:
    I was already biased against whoever filed the lawsuit and forced me to be there. I was all ready to say this to the judge during my interview

    anyway, I'm glad it's over with. In PA I am only excused for a year and a day.

    Well luckily you weren't picked then, but I guess I just don't see this line of thinking. If you were arrested or owed money and had a trial, I'd imagine you would want a jury that takes the case seriously and doesn't look at it like a complete hassle, right?

    While I don't agree with many of the drug laws in this country nor the number of people we have in jail, I think that everyone's right to a just trial is pretty much the foundation of who we are, whether it is a pain in the ass or not. Does it suck? Sure, probably at times, but there are responsbilities we have as citizens and this is by far one of, if not the most important one.

    While not monetarily, this seems to be the same type of thing you have a problem with. You want the right to a fair trial, but don't want to contribute to our justice system, no?
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    The Fixer wrote:
    I was already biased against whoever filed the lawsuit and forced me to be there. I was all ready to say this to the judge during my interview
    Man, this is just sad.

    Out of curiosity, would it have made a difference if it were another type of case?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,772
    Wow. I'm kind of shocked at the lack of a sense of civic duty.... We should all be happy to be part of a system where we're innocent until proven guilty by a jury of our peers. I would consider serving on a jury an honour.
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    edited September 2012
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    I was already biased against whoever filed the lawsuit and forced me to be there. I was all ready to say this to the judge during my interview

    anyway, I'm glad it's over with. In PA I am only excused for a year and a day.

    Well luckily you weren't picked then, but I guess I just don't see this line of thinking. If you were arrested or owed money and had a trial, I'd imagine you would want a jury that takes the case seriously and doesn't look at it like a complete hassle, right?

    While I don't agree with many of the drug laws in this country nor the number of people we have in jail, I think that everyone's right to a just trial is pretty much the foundation of who we are, whether it is a pain in the ass or not. Does it suck? Sure, probably at times, but there are responsbilities we have as citizens and this is by far one of, if not the most important one.

    While not monetarily, this seems to be the same type of thing you have a problem with. You want the right to a fair trial, but don't want to contribute to our justice system, no?

    to your first question...of course, I'd want the jurors to take it seriously. I was willing to act like an ass to get out of a weeklong jail sentence, which is what I would have considered being stuck at jury duty to be.

    Yeah, I have no desire to contribute to the justice system. other than, ya know, the taxes I pay which pay the salaries of everyone in my municipality. Another idea would be to give people the option to buy out their jury duty time. I'd happily pay to not have to attend that shit. After all, is someone who really doesn't want to be there gonna be fair in their evaluation of a case?
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  • The Fixer
    The Fixer Posts: 12,837
    hedonist wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    I was already biased against whoever filed the lawsuit and forced me to be there. I was all ready to say this to the judge during my interview
    Man, this is just sad.

    Out of curiosity, would it have made a difference if it were another type of case?

    not sure why it's sad

    hard to say. your question, much like your initial statement, is inexplicit

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