Obama. 4 years later.

kenny olav

Newch91 wrote:

mickeyrat wrote:

the other is the recession was only beginning when he was sworn in. We hadnt yet seen the worst of it.

Great point.

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. And the fact is, the economy has been improving... slowly, but steadily. If Republicans in the House hadn't spent the last two years trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act, and instead had worked with the President and Democrats on their jobs bill, we could be doing much better already.

And I'm sorry but the idea that Romney and the Republicans can do better is laughable.

Who Princess

4 years ago I thought Obama was OK. Not great, just OK. There really weren't any candidates in 2008 that I could get excited about it.

I've been disappointed in some of the things he's done. But I'm also disappointed in the Supreme Court (like Citizens United) and I'm REALLY disgusted with Congress.

But as for the whole "Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?" I can say HELL YES. I was out of work 4 years ago. I now have a great job that I really enjoy. My husband decided to change jobs 2 years ago and has a much better job now too.

Do I give Obama credit for all this? Of course not. There's still things I don't like about him but they're not deal breakers. Do I think Romney could make things better? No way.

LikeAnOcean

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/gas-prices-graph-1998-2011.jpg

Conservatives have short term memories about gas prices...

When Barack Obama took over in 2009 gas cost an average of $1.85 per gallon. Now that average cost is $3.87 per gallon!

It was 1.85 for like a month! I got it at Thortons for a 1.79!

It slowly rose for the 8 years Bush was in office to over $4 a few summers. It dropped like a few months before his last term ended freakishly.

People used to bitch at Bush about gas prices and now they are bitching at Obama. I don't see the logic.

EdsonNascimento

2 years control of both houses.

Lowest % of people in labor market since September 1981 and yet still 8.1% unemployment.

95% of African Americans voting for him

Those are the facts. Without item 3 this election wouldn't even be in question.

Bye, bye.

Bennyorr4

Gas is wayyyyy cheaper in the states. It about $5 bucks a gallon($1.20/litre) in Canada so quit your bitchin and get a little perspective. It could be worse.

cincybearcat

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

for starters, the republicans

So fuckng predictable.

gimmesometruth27

cincybearcat wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

for starters, the republicans

So fuckng predictable.

Got a rebuttal big guy?

Didn't think so.....

Carry on....

inlet13

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

for starters, the republicans

Worst in MT. And that's saying something.

Pom-poms a'wavin high. Go B.O.! Go!

gimmesometruth27

inlet13 wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

for starters, the republicans

Worst in MT. And that's saying something.

Pom-poms a'wavin high. Go B.O.! Go!

prove me wrong for everyone here.

thanks in advance...

:corn:

gimmesometruth27

EdsonNascimento wrote:

2 years control of both houses.

Lowest % of people in labor market since September 1981 and yet still 8.1% unemployment.

95% of African Americans voting for him

Those are the facts. Without item 3 this election wouldn't even be in question.

Bye, bye.

http://www.thepragmaticpundit.com/2011/ ... r-two.html

Here are the facts:

Apparently everyone forgot the President needed 60 votes in the Senate to pass legislation. I heard a Latino news reporter say they felt if the President could pass healthcare, he could have passed immigration reform. Newsflash!! The healthcare bill was passed using "reconciliation", because there were not 60 Democrats in the Senate.

Immigration, Gay Rights could not be passed with the same process because it is reserved for budgetary matters. You'd think a reporter would know this stuff. The Stimulus was hijacked by the Republicans and job-creating measures were traded for tax cuts because...there were not 60 Democratic votes to pass it.

Apparently no one remembers that Scott Brown was sworn into office in February of 2010. At that time, the President had only been in office for ONE year. Most folks remember that the election of Scott Brown reduced the number of Democratic senators to 59. So the President could not have possibly had Congressional control for two years.

Here's the timeline:

When the election dust settled, Democrats had won 59 seats; the Republicans 41.

January 20, 2009 - After suffering a seizure during Barack Obama's inaugural luncheon, Senator Kennedy’s health forced him to retreat to Massachusetts. Also Senator Al Franken of Minnesota had not been seated because the previous Senator, Norm Coleman challenged the election results.


So at the beginning of his Presidency, Democrats had 57 elected senators…55 Democrats and 2 Independents.

Why do you think he had to compromise with Republicans on the Stimulus bill? He didn’t have enough Democrats to pass the bill! Why don't you people who moan such disappointment know this?

April 28, 2009 news outlets issued the following report:

Republican Sen. Arlen Specter has switched parties, which would give Democrats a filibuster-proof 60 seats. You do remember the filibuster? The Republicans employed it more than in any time in history for the express purpose of stalling legislation.


Despite the fact that the media hailed the party switch of Arlen Specter and claimed it gave Democrats a filibuster-proof Senate, the Minnesota seat still remained vacant. The Senate had 56 sitting Democratic members and 2 Independents. Technically, the Senate was two members short, but I'm counting Senator Kennedy even though he was at home ill because he did cast a vote in June. 59

May 15, 2009 Senator Robert Byrd was admitted to the hospital reducing the number of sitting Senators to 55 Democratic members and 2 Independents.

July 7, 2009 Al Franken (D) was sworn in after the election dispute over the Minnesota seat was decided in his favor. Senator Kennedy continued to recuperate at his home in Massachusetts and was unable to cast any more votes; Senator Byrd was still in the hospital. The Senate had 56 sitting Democratic members and 2 Independents. 58



July 21, 2009 Senator Byrd returned to the Senate making the count 59 seats. No Senator Kennedy.

Senator Kennedy died August 25, 2009.

The Kennedy seat was vacant from August 25 - September 24 when Paul G. Kirk was appointed to occupy his seat until the completion of a special election. The swearing-in of Kirk gave the Democrats a 60-seat majority.


Democrats had a 60 seat majority from September 24, 2009 thru February 4, 2010. 4 months; not 2 years!!

This does not account for the number of days Congress was not even in session during that time. If one subtracts the number of days Congress was out, the time that President Obama had a Democratic majority in Congress is further reduced by more than 30 days, or another full month.

Of a possible 94 legislative days during that period, the Senate was only in session for 67 days, while the House only labored for 54.

Democrats lost their 60 seat majority when Republican Scott Brown of Massachusetts was sworn into office in February of 2010.





But here's the most important detail that no one ever mentions:

REPUBLICANS CONTROLLED THE HOUSE, SENATE AND PRESIDENCY (BUSH) FROM 2001 TO 2007! SIX YEARS!

What purpose does the media serve? And why are Americans so damned dumb and easily led? This isn’t some obscure fact, but no one gets it right. It's pathetic!

As for Morning Joe, I guess that’s what I get for watching that stupid crap. I suppose I should count my blessings…. at least I missed Peggy Noonan swooning orgasmically about that damned economy-crasher Ronald Reagan.



Correction:


I state that the Republicans held the House, Senate and White House for six years. They actually only held the position for 4 consecutive years. I failed to account for the fact that in 2001 Senator James Jeffords of Vermont switched from the Republican Party to the Independent Party and caucused with the Democrats, giving the Democrats a one seat majority.

Bennyorr4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmNqzEHSsPE




Its funny cuz it's true

EdsonNascimento

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

Correction:


I state that the Republicans held the House, Senate and White House for six years. They actually only held the position for 4 consecutive years. I failed to account for the fact that in 2001 Senator James Jeffords of Vermont switched from the Republican Party to the Independent Party and caucused with the Democrats, giving the Democrats a one seat majority.

So, in other words, you were wrong.

And 50 is greater than 59.

brianlux

Bennyorr4 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmNqzEHSsPE




Its funny cuz it's true

:thumbup:

DS1119

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

There are hundreds of thousands more people out of work, since Obama took office. Right?
Unemployment went from to 7.8% the day he went into office to 8.6% today. Right? At one point it was 10%.
The median household income dropped 5% (50K to 45K) since Obama took office...Right?
Americas debt has added another 6 Trillion, since Obama took office. Right?
Gas is $2 or so more a gallon since the day Obama took office. Right?

Change?
Hope?

So what the hell went wrong here?

It's all the Republican's fault SPeedy...didn't you know that? Either it was problems he "inherited" or it was the Republicans "blocking" him. Nothing Obama did was wrong. It's all the other parties fault.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

DS1119 wrote:

It's all the Republican's fault SPeedy...didn't you know that? Either it was problems he "inherited" or it was the Republicans "blocking" him. Nothing Obama did was wrong. It's all the other parties fault.

Typical Liberal/Democrat responses here..
Its everybody elses fault..
We are not taking responsibility for anything..

Now give us some more handouts!!!!!!!



Fuck Politics...

And the personal attacks will begin in 5, 4, 3, .....

mickeyrat

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

It's all the Republican's fault SPeedy...didn't you know that? Either it was problems he "inherited" or it was the Republicans "blocking" him. Nothing Obama did was wrong. It's all the other parties fault.

Typical Liberal/Democrat responses here..
Its everybody elses fault..
We are not taking responsibility for anything..

Now give us some more handouts!!!!!!!



Fuck Politics...

And the personal attacks will begin in 5, 4, 3, .....

fuck BOTH parties. Its all about re-election or self interest with most of these fuckers.

dignin

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

It's all the Republican's fault SPeedy...didn't you know that? Either it was problems he "inherited" or it was the Republicans "blocking" him. Nothing Obama did was wrong. It's all the other parties fault.

Typical Liberal/Democrat responses here..
Its everybody elses fault..
We are not taking responsibility for anything..

Now give us some more handouts!!!!!!!



Fuck Politics...

And the personal attacks will begin in 5, 4, 3, .....

^^^^^^

easy on the emoticons gentlemen, I almost had a seizure.

DS1119

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

DS1119 wrote:

It's all the Republican's fault SPeedy...didn't you know that? Either it was problems he "inherited" or it was the Republicans "blocking" him. Nothing Obama did was wrong. It's all the other parties fault.

Typical Liberal/Democrat responses here..
Its everybody elses fault..
We are not taking responsibility for anything..

Now give us some more handouts!!!!!!!



Fuck Politics...

And the personal attacks will begin in 5, 4, 3, .....

Ummm......pretty much this.

dancepartner

anyone miss me? Lazy Sunday. Thought I'd check in and see what's up. This thread makes me laugh so I'll use one of them thar emoticons

Godfather.

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

for starters, the republicans either blocked or would not allow a vote on most of his initiatives. they are just as guilty for obama's failures because they in part caused them.

one man, in our government can do nothing without the consent of the other 2 branches... checks and balances, checks and balances...

he is not a fucking king...

your right he aint no fucking king ..infact he aint much of a president either, it seems to me he just laid down and cryed, why were other presidents able to take control at least to a point of doing better than Barry O has done in office ?....no more excuses, the guy is a straight up looser and I aint saying Romney will do any better but Obama has in 4 short years proved that he can not deliver any hope and change. sadly this ass clown may get re-elected because people are too blind to see what Obama can and can't do.(be president)
if you think he droped the ball for the last 4 years just wait till you see what he does if he's given 4 more years.

Godfather.