Obama. 4 years later.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

There are hundreds of thousands more people out of work, since Obama took office. Right?
Unemployment went from to 7.8% the day he went into office to 8.6% today. Right? At one point it was 10%.
The median household income dropped 5% (50K to 45K) since Obama took office...Right?
Americas debt has added another 6 Trillion, since Obama took office. Right?
Gas is $2 or so more a gallon since the day Obama took office. Right?

Change?
Hope?

So what the hell went wrong here?

gimmesometruth27

for starters, the republicans either blocked or would not allow a vote on most of his initiatives. they are just as guilty for obama's failures because they in part caused them.

one man, in our government can do nothing without the consent of the other 2 branches... checks and balances, checks and balances...

he is not a fucking king...

Newch91

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

for starters, the republicans either blocked or would not allow a vote on most of his initiatives. they are just as guilty for obama's failures because they in part caused them.

one man, in our government can do nothing without the consent of the other 2 branches... checks and balances, checks and balances...

he is not a fucking king...

Republicans' record number of filibusters also, but that goes with them blocking on his initiatives.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

for starters, the republicans either blocked or would not allow a vote on most of his initiatives. they are just as guilty for obama's failures because they in part caused them.

one man, in our government can do nothing without the consent of the other 2 branches... checks and balances, checks and balances...

he is not a fucking king...

I remember his BIG SPEECH the day he was elected..
I remember all the Hope and Change he promised the American people..
I remember the American people buying into his promises, hook line and sinker.

Not once do I remember him saying, " I will change this nation, if the Republicans allow me to"

gimmesometruth27

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

for starters, the republicans either blocked or would not allow a vote on most of his initiatives. they are just as guilty for obama's failures because they in part caused them.

one man, in our government can do nothing without the consent of the other 2 branches... checks and balances, checks and balances...

he is not a fucking king...

I remember his BIG SPEECH the day he was elected..
I remember all the Hope and Change he promised the American people..
I remember the American people buying into his promises, hook line and sinker.

Not once do I remember him saying, " I will change this nation, if the Republicans allow me to"

every presidential candidate in american history has said that. who has been elected saying " I AM GOING TO KEEP EVERYTHING THE EXACT SAME!!!!!!!" ??

again, he is not a king. nobody can just will shit to happen.


do you remember his speech from thursday night? he addressed your points in that speech.

mickeyrat

the other is the recession was only beginning when he was sworn in. We hadnt yet seen the worst of it.

You post these "facts" as if it were all his doing.


My view of it is, these so called job creators might, just might , make a decision regarding their business growth if they knew just what the fuck CONGRESS was going to do, since THEY are the ones who control things. If they had the juice ot do it the pres would be just a figurehead.

Its called Co-operation and compromise. This is how america is supposed to work. They continue on this "my way or no way" path , we're finished as a viable country.

Newch91

mickeyrat wrote:

the other is the recession was only beginning when he was sworn in. We hadnt yet seen the worst of it.

Great point.

QuarterToTen

How much of that 5.4 trillion dollar debt that Obama has added was spent on the war started by the previous administration?

SPEEDY MCCREADY

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

do you remember his speech from thursday night? he addressed your points in that speech.

No I did not listen to his speech Thursday.


Hey gimme.

You keep saying he is not King. But you HAVE to agree with me, that as a nation, 4 years ago, the American public acted as if this guy was the second coming of Jesus Christ. I had NEVER seen people fall in love with a political figure, like the American people fell for Obama. They seemed to believe that this very smart, educated, articulate man, was going to rescue them all, and they were going to spend the rest of their lives in Camelot.

But 4 years later, I am sure many believe they were fed a line of Bullshit, that they fell for hook line and sinker. Because bottom line?

Not a damned thing has really changed here in the good ole USA.

gimmesometruth27

the loss of jobs, years in the making which started under bush, did not bottom out until several months into obama's first term. he has had 29 straight months of private sector job growth since the bottom out.

also, how many companies have created jobs in other countries outsourced from the united states?

lukin2006

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

There are hundreds of thousands more people out of work, since Obama took office. Right?
Unemploment went from to 7.8% the day he went into office to 8.6% today. Right? At one point it was 10%.
The median household income dropped 5% (50K to 45K) since Obama took office...Right?
Americas debt has added another 6 Trillion, since Obama took office. Right?
Gas is $2 or so more a gallon since the day Obama took office. Right?

Change?
Hope?

So what the hell went wrong here?

You come to the wrong place if your looking for an unbiased answer .

gimmesometruth27

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

do you remember his speech from thursday night? he addressed your points in that speech.

No I did not listen to his speech Thursday.


Hey gimme.

You keep saying he is not King. But you HAVE to agree with me, that as a nation, 4 years ago, the American public acted as if this guy was the second coming of Jesus Christ. I had NEVER seen people fall in love with a political figure, like the American people fell for Obama. They seemed to believe that this very smart, educated, articulate man, was going to rescue them all, and they were going to spend the rest of their lives in Camelot.

But 4 years later, I am sure many believe they were fed a line of Bullshit, that they fell for hook line and sinker. Because bottom line?

Not a damned thing has really changed here in the good ole USA.

you should check out the speech.

he is not a king. it is not easy to pass ANYTHING. look at the debt ceiling debate. most people in this country AND in congress did not know what that was. they thought that was adding more debt so they voted against it, but in actuality it authorized our government to make a payment on debt that had already been accrued. as a result we got our credit downgraded and S&P, who downgraded us, specifically blamed congressional republicans for their decision.

my point? nothing can get done without approval from congress...remember when gwb said "this job would be a lot easier if it were a dictatorship....and if i were the dictator..."?? he had some opposition, but not nearly to the extent that obama has had.

i do agree with you that what was said has only partially come to pass. but you can not forget and you can not deny that the legendary opposition is not if partly but wholly to blame. and i guess after 8 years of hearing a president mumble and stumble over his words obama was an appealing candidate to a lot of people.

but you are wrong because plenty of things have changed.

brianlux

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

do you remember his speech from thursday night? he addressed your points in that speech.

No I did not listen to his speech Thursday.


Hey gimme.

You keep saying he is not King. But you HAVE to agree with me, that as a nation, 4 years ago, the American public acted as if this guy was the second coming of Jesus Christ. I had NEVER seen people fall in love with a political figure, like the American people fell for Obama. They seemed to believe that this very smart, educated, articulate man, was going to rescue them all, and they were going to spend the rest of their lives in Camelot.

But 4 years later, I am sure many believe they were fed a line of Bullshit, that they fell for hook line and sinker. Because bottom line?

Not a damned thing has really changed here in the good ole USA.

Speedy, I think the American people fell in love with hope for things to get better as much as they did the figure who represented that hope. With all the filibusterers and blocked initiatives a lot of that hope has been suppressed. Maybe someone didn't want that hope to be fulfilled in this administration.

I also place blame for some of the quelled hope on the whole system for not addressing issues like our attempts to continue living at a massively consumptive rate in a world with limited resources- but I'm sort of an outlier on that subject.

g under p

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

do you remember his speech from thursday night? he addressed your points in that speech.

No I did not listen to his speech Thursday.


Hey gimme.

You keep saying he is not King. But you HAVE to agree with me, that as a nation, 4 years ago, the American public acted as if this guy was the second coming of Jesus Christ. I had NEVER seen people fall in love with a political figure, like the American people fell for Obama. They seemed to believe that this very smart, educated, articulate man, was going to rescue them all, and they were going to spend the rest of their lives in Camelot.

But 4 years later, I am sure many believe they were fed a line of Bullshit, that they fell for hook line and sinker. Because bottom line?

Not a damned thing has really changed here in the good ole USA.

The ONLY reason SOME thought of this man to be the second coming of JC was because of his predecessor demise of this country. To the point where this country had the nerve to elect the unthinkable... to believe in and elect a black man to lead this country that's how he could be thought of as the second coming of Jesus Christ. They believed ANYONE would be better than President Bush II.

Oh BTW I did not vote for the man then but this go round I will because like BC said....if you think ANY president could have turned this country around in for years you would be truly and sadly mistaken. Ya think McCain would have done better, at best the very same as This President has done????

Peace

Dirtie_Frank

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

for starters, the republicans either blocked or would not allow a vote on most of his initiatives. they are just as guilty for obama's failures because they in part caused them.

one man, in our government can do nothing without the consent of the other 2 branches... checks and balances, checks and balances...

he is not a fucking king...

Wan't the congress Democratic controlled during his first 2 years?

LikeAnOcean

Speedy, why do people keep blaming Obama for gas prices?

I seem to remember paying almost $5 a gallon in Chicago when Bush was in office. It definitely came up a lot since Clinton left.

LikeAnOcean

http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/wp- ... 8-2011.jpg

Conservatives have short term memories about gas prices...

SPEEDY MCCREADY

LikeAnOcean wrote:

http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/gas-prices-graph-1998-2011.jpg

Conservatives have short term memories about gas prices...

When Barack Obama took over in 2009 gas cost an average of $1.85 per gallon. Now that average cost is $3.87 per gallon!

DriftingByTheStorm

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

LikeAnOcean wrote:

http://www.consumerenergyreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/gas-prices-graph-1998-2011.jpg

Conservatives have short term memories about gas prices...

When Barack Obama took over in 2009 gas cost an average of $1.85 per gallon. Now that average cost is $3.87 per gallon!

The Federal Reserve is an INDEPENDENT agency.
Obama is not the Money-Printer-In-Chief
Sorry to burst your (debt) bubble.

titchinello

First thing i thought when i saw this thread title was - has it really been 4 years, I was sure it was just last year he became president.... man time flys when your haveing fun i guess.

here's a dedication not sure if its apt or not, as i'm UK and don't know much of USA politics etc but what the hell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZrY9T6jJAc

gimmesometruth27

the president has nothing to do with gas prices. he can't wave a magic wand and make them under $2.50. why did so many conservatives on here scoff at bachmann when she said she would do that in the debate? because they knew that there is nothing the president can do to control gas prices...

and by the way, domestic drilling is way up under obama compared to any other president in recent history....drill baby drill!!!