Reagan's Inherited Mess vs. Obama's Inherited Mess
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Fucked? He did not have sexual relations....ugh nevermind. 50% of the population didn't care that he lied to the jury because they didn't think he should be in that position to start with.cincybearcat wrote:gimmesometruth27 wrote:
clinton was not the first to cheat on his wife in the white house, and he won't be the last.cincybearcat wrote:
That its okay for a boss to abuse his power and prey on interns. If that happened at my work, someone would be out of a job, and it wouldn't be the intern!!!
its pretty shitty that that is what people remember most about clinton.
It's his fault that he fucked his intern at work and then lied about it to a grand jury....that's pretty memorable. That dude was bulletproof though...I still can't believe how you remain president after that and have 50%+ of the people in the country not care!
What amazes me is that his legacy has made him the left's Reagan. Dems are always bringing up the great economy he left Bush, and how great things were under him....Rep's are always bringing up his cigars....
But not many people talk about the Dixie Mafia deaths in his days as Governor (some people tie 150+ murders, suicides, accidental or medical deaths to people under his sphere of influence), Whitewater, Waco, Yugoslavia....The guy was as much a criminal/cog in the machine as any other president. Well maybe not ANY...but he's no angel.
edit: oh! just saw the slick willie thread....maybe some people do talk about some of this stuff...gotta read thru that thread.0 -
gimmesometruth27 wrote:
you have not read anything about the obstructionism have you? perhaps you should google this senate's use of the filibuster. it has been used more times this session than ever in american history. start there and then let's have a real conversation.DS1119 wrote:Embarrasing myself. Love it.
If the Republicans saw any daylight in what Obama was trying to accomplish or any "give and take" they may have played along. There was zilch. Obama failed. Bottom line. At least he loves his Jay Z and will try and ride Bill Clinton's nutsack into re-election. 

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Filibusters are a great tactic when what is being presented is ridiculous.
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gimmesometruth27 wrote:
come on DS119. let's have an honest discussion on this and let's not hide behind talking points....gimmesometruth27 wrote:
you have not read anything about the obstructionism have you? perhaps you should google this senate's use of the filibuster. it has been used more times this session than ever in american history. start there and then let's have a real conversation.DS1119 wrote:Embarrasing myself. Love it.
If the Republicans saw any daylight in what Obama was trying to accomplish or any "give and take" they may have played along. There was zilch. Obama failed. Bottom line. At least he loves his Jay Z and will try and ride Bill Clinton's nutsack into re-election. 

:corn:
Talking points. Spoken like a true Dem. Avoid the big picture. Distarct the public. Flash your picture at a Jay Z concert.
Ride Bill CLinton's nutsack. 

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cincybearcat wrote:DS1119 wrote:live off of Bill Clinton's legacy. Good luck.

That its okay for a boss to abuse his power and prey on interns. If that happened at my work, someone would be out of a job, and it wouldn't be the intern!!!
It's the best Obama has right now.
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Waiting for you to engage in the discussion DS.....gimmesometruth27 wrote:
come on DS119. let's have an honest discussion on this and let's not hide behind talking points....gimmesometruth27 wrote:
you have not read anything about the obstructionism have you? perhaps you should google this senate's use of the filibuster. it has been used more times this session than ever in american history. start there and then let's have a real conversation.DS1119 wrote:Embarrasing myself. Love it.
If the Republicans saw any daylight in what Obama was trying to accomplish or any "give and take" they may have played along. There was zilch. Obama failed. Bottom line. At least he loves his Jay Z and will try and ride Bill Clinton's nutsack into re-election. 

:corn:
:corn:"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
bueller............"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
Waiting for you to engage in the discussion DS.....gimmesometruth27 wrote:come on DS119. let's have an honest discussion on this and let's not hide behind talking points....
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I've put forth my discussion. Obama failed. And when you fail why be rewarded with a re-election? Not anything that Obama promised in 08 has come true. Nothing. It's actually gotten worse. Perhaps Big Bill can save him though.

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