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Sooooo... Why no PJ webcast?

SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
edited September 2012 in Given To Fly (live)
Anyone know why?
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  • shepshep Houston Posts: 5,802
    REmeber that time in 2007 when AT&T was supposed to air their set from Lollapalooza and then edited out Vedder's rant about Bush?

    they have not done a webcast since, as they don't have the technology themselves and are not in control of the situation... and unwilling to trust others outside of their camp...
    Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
  • LiLiNY81LiLiNY81 Posts: 775
    Their performance is being broadcast through iheart radio. No visual, but at least we get audio.
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  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    shep wrote:
    REmeber that time in 2007 when AT&T was supposed to air their set from Lollapalooza and then edited out Vedder's rant about Bush?

    they have not done a webcast since, as they don't have the technology themselves and are not in control of the situation... and unwilling to trust others outside of their camp...

    We trust you to play your festival Jay, but we dont trust you to do the webcast. :?
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    rumors says that Boom got a bad haircut and put a veto to this webcast..
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  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    LiLiNY81 wrote:
    Their performance is being broadcast through iheart radio. No visual, but at least we get audio.

    Yeah, I dont see that anywhere...
  • shepshep Houston Posts: 5,802
    SolarWorld wrote:
    shep wrote:
    REmeber that time in 2007 when AT&T was supposed to air their set from Lollapalooza and then edited out Vedder's rant about Bush?

    they have not done a webcast since, as they don't have the technology themselves and are not in control of the situation... and unwilling to trust others outside of their camp...

    We trust you to play your festival Jay, but we dont trust you to do the webcast. :?

    More like we get paid to play your festival, however there's not extra $'s in it to do the webcast and we also have no control of how you edit our performance for the masses...

    Bitten once, twice shy...
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  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    shep wrote:
    SolarWorld wrote:
    shep wrote:
    REmeber that time in 2007 when AT&T was supposed to air their set from Lollapalooza and then edited out Vedder's rant about Bush?

    they have not done a webcast since, as they don't have the technology themselves and are not in control of the situation... and unwilling to trust others outside of their camp...

    We trust you to play your festival Jay, but we dont trust you to do the webcast. :?

    More like we get paid to play your festival, however there's not extra $'s in it to do the webcast and we also have no control of how you edit our performance for the masses...

    Bitten once, twice shy...

    Yeah but they had had a number of successful webcasts up until that one.

    Seems kinda wuss-dog to me...
  • Digital TwilightDigital Twilight Posts: 5,642
    It's just how they are. They are very protective over visual broadcasts and such. They only allowed the last 3 songs from the Isle of Wight festival to be broadcasted when they could have had a lot more if they wanted too. Didn't PJ also turned down the propsed dvd for the spectrum shows?
  • shepshep Houston Posts: 5,802
    SolarWorld wrote:

    Yeah but they had had a number of successful webcasts up until that one.

    Seems kinda wuss-dog to me...

    But we know how this band is... they want to be in complete control of their music/art/performance... and giving that power to the people outside of their camp who have the ability to pull it off is not something they're going to do... just the way it is...

    I agreee it would be super cool if I could sit down with a beer from my house tonight and watch PJ live on my 46" TV with my bitchin' internet connection... but I know it's not going to happen... I'll have to settle for the relay thread...

    Not expecting any earth shattering performances tonight anyway... there will be a few rarites thrown in there (maybe 2 or 3), but you're going to get a very standard, mass appeal PJ set list tonight due to the fact that (1) There's going to be a lot of non-PJ fans in the crowd due to the fact it's a JayZ festival with a lot of rap and Eddie will want to appeal to this "different" crowd and (2) the performance is being filmed by JayZ/Budweiser for a DVD/movie, so they're going to want the mass appeal stuff... It'll be a night with a 9 min+ version of Evenflow.
    Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    shep wrote:
    SolarWorld wrote:

    Yeah but they had had a number of successful webcasts up until that one.

    Seems kinda wuss-dog to me...

    But we know how this band is... they want to be in complete control of their music/art/performance... and giving that power to the people outside of their camp who have the ability to pull it off is not something they're going to do... just the way it is...

    I agreee it would be super cool if I could sit down with a beer from my house tonight and watch PJ live on my 46" TV with my bitchin' internet connection... but I know it's not going to happen... I'll have to settle for the relay thread...

    Not expecting any earth shattering performances tonight anyway... there will be a few rarites thrown in there (maybe 2 or 3), but you're going to get a very standard, mass appeal PJ set list tonight due to the fact that (1) There's going to be a lot of non-PJ fans in the crowd due to the fact it's a JayZ festival with a lot of rap and Eddie will want to appeal to this "different" crowd and (2) the performance is being filmed by JayZ/Budweiser for a DVD/movie, so they're going to want the mass appeal stuff... It'll be a night with a 9 min+ version of Evenflow.

    Yeah yeah yeah, its still bizarre if you ask me. How hard is it to say, "Yeah, we'll do the cast, just dont edit us like ATT did." The control of their "music" argument doesn't hold much water when they have done broadcasts before with no issues.
  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    P.S. A 9+ minute evenflow is not what these people want. More like the 3 minute version, onto Alive and Jeremy.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,161
    edited September 2012
    SolarWorld wrote:
    shep wrote:
    REmeber that time in 2007 when AT&T was supposed to air their set from Lollapalooza and then edited out Vedder's rant about Bush?

    they have not done a webcast since, as they don't have the technology themselves and are not in control of the situation... and unwilling to trust others outside of their camp...

    We trust you to play your festival Jay, but we dont trust you to do the webcast. :?
    Seems totally reasonable to me. J don't see why they should want to have something aired that they have absolutely no control over, especially if they're concerned that they could be edited, but even if they weren't. We all know that they find having total control over their own work is VERY important to them (for good reason), so this doesn't surprise me at all. Plus, as always, there could also be something that we don't know about that's also aided their desire not to have these other people they have no relationship with film and broadcast their show. At any rate when they were burned by ATT, they probably simply vowed to never let others film and broadcast their show again, and you can't blame them. No reason to expect them to break their own rule now. Obviously. Plus, have you seen the other webcasts? They're actually quite poorly shot. Bad cuts, bad angles.

    Their performance will be on YouTube in no time. We can all watch it then. :) Plus I guess some Ron Howard thing is being made. I'm not sure why people care about this.
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  • sk8nshoot1sk8nshoot1 Posts: 722
    shep wrote:
    SolarWorld wrote:

    Yeah but they had had a number of successful webcasts up until that one.

    Seems kinda wuss-dog to me...

    But we know how this band is... they want to be in complete control of their music/art/performance... and giving that power to the people outside of their camp who have the ability to pull it off is not something they're going to do... just the way it is...

    I agreee it would be super cool if I could sit down with a beer from my house tonight and watch PJ live on my 46" TV with my bitchin' internet connection... but I know it's not going to happen... I'll have to settle for the relay thread...

    Not expecting any earth shattering performances tonight anyway... there will be a few rarites thrown in there (maybe 2 or 3), but you're going to get a very standard, mass appeal PJ set list tonight due to the fact that (1) There's going to be a lot of non-PJ fans in the crowd due to the fact it's a JayZ festival with a lot of rap and Eddie will want to appeal to this "different" crowd and (2) the performance is being filmed by JayZ/Budweiser for a DVD/movie, so they're going to want the mass appeal stuff... It'll be a night with a 9 min+ version of Evenflow.

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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 94,266
    LiLiNY81 wrote:
    Their performance is being broadcast through iheart radio. No visual, but at least we get audio.

    Got a link?
  • London BridgeLondon Bridge USA Posts: 4,733
    dimitrispearljam wrote:
    rumors says that Boom got a bad haircut and put a veto to this webcast..

    haha

    That's why hats were created ;)
  • London BridgeLondon Bridge USA Posts: 4,733
    SolarWorld wrote:
    P.S. A 9+ minute evenflow is not what these people want. More like the 3 minute version, onto Alive and Jeremy.

    who are "these people"?

    Fuck'em..... play a 9+ minute RVM also.
  • shepshep Houston Posts: 5,802
    SolarWorld wrote:
    P.S. A 9+ minute evenflow is not what these people want. More like the 3 minute version, onto Alive and Jeremy.

    Agreed it's not what they want... but it's what they're going to get because this band has to appeal to it's core fan base that is actually there, and putting off a 9+ minute version of Evenflow is a good way to do it - it's evenflow, so it keeps the masses involved, regardless....
    sk8nshoot1 wrote:
    shep wrote:
    SolarWorld wrote:

    Yeah but they had had a number of successful webcasts up until that one.

    Seems kinda wuss-dog to me...

    But we know how this band is... they want to be in complete control of their music/art/performance... and giving that power to the people outside of their camp who have the ability to pull it off is not something they're going to do... just the way it is...

    I agreee it would be super cool if I could sit down with a beer from my house tonight and watch PJ live on my 46" TV with my bitchin' internet connection... but I know it's not going to happen... I'll have to settle for the relay thread...

    Not expecting any earth shattering performances tonight anyway... there will be a few rarites thrown in there (maybe 2 or 3), but you're going to get a very standard, mass appeal PJ set list tonight due to the fact that (1) There's going to be a lot of non-PJ fans in the crowd due to the fact it's a JayZ festival with a lot of rap and Eddie will want to appeal to this "different" crowd and (2) the performance is being filmed by JayZ/Budweiser for a DVD/movie, so they're going to want the mass appeal stuff... It'll be a night with a 9 min+ version of Evenflow.

    You say that like it's a bad ting....

    Depends on who you ask... I'm not big on evenflow personally - I'd prefer a 9+ minute porch, RTIFW, or RVM... but tonight I have a feeling it will be E/flow. :ugeek: :D
    Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    They arent going to do any extended jams.
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,484
    SolarWorld wrote:
    They arent going to do any extended jams.

    well, why don't you just spell out their entire setlist then. you have no way of knowing. yes, it's a fest. so, yes...the set will be shorter. does that mean that it'll suck? um...no. not at all.
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  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    mfc2006 wrote:
    SolarWorld wrote:
    They arent going to do any extended jams.

    well, why don't you just spell out their entire setlist then. you have no way of knowing. yes, it's a fest. so, yes...the set will be shorter. does that mean that it'll suck? um...no. not at all.

    Dude, lol, when did I say anything was going to suck?

    Id watch these guys cover Yani bro...
  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    god frbid they let their millions of fans who aren't there seee it..sooo lame

    everyday its something new w/ them :fp:


    once again good job pj
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,161
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    god frbid they let their millions of fans who aren't there seee it..sooo lame

    everyday its something new w/ them :fp:


    once again good job pj
    What will be keeping you from seeing it when everyone posts it in YouTube?
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,101
    SolarWorld wrote:
    Anyone know why?

    How about this idea: it is a live concert. If you want to see it buy a ticket. My opinion.
  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    god frbid they let their millions of fans who aren't there seee it..sooo lame

    everyday its something new w/ them :fp:


    once again good job pj

    This one IS super crazy. What better way to stay relevant all over the world, sell more records, show you are one the best live bands ever, than a webcast. The maddening thing about it is they have done it before and it was great. Lets see there was a House of Bluse show that was cast, A festival in London, Ed Sullivan Show... Lolla of course, which everyone seems to be point to as the reason they arent doing another webcast. OK, how about a broadcast on PJ Radio, their own station? I would pay some money to see a quality HD stream of shows. They finally came around on live videos as there is no way to stop it.

    So whats the deal here? I really hope they can figure out a way to do it that makes them happy again for some future shows. It's leaving revenue on the table....

    And another thing... Its already set up! Its streaming right now, but for whatever reason they have to turn it off when PJ takes the stage? :? Craziness...
  • neilybabes86neilybabes86 Posts: 16,057
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    god frbid they let their millions of fans who aren't there seee it..sooo lame

    everyday its something new w/ them :fp:


    once again good job pj
    What will be keeping you from seeing it when everyone posts it in YouTube?
    It's not new that they don't give up control of their work.


    why cant i just watch the show live...youtube afterwards isn't the same

    its such a silly reason to stop showing their concerts ..get over it and let your fans see you
    i post on the board of a band that doesn't exsist anymore .......i need my head examined.......
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 94,266
    Let's just hope Ron Howard records ALOT of Pearl Jam's set for his film @ MIA.
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,306
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    god frbid they let their millions of fans who aren't there seee it..sooo lame

    everyday its something new w/ them :fp:


    once again good job pj
    Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Every song will have a vid posted to YouTube anyways. Crappier videos than what could be streamed...

    Oh well. I'm not surprised
  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    PJ_Soul wrote:
    neilybabes86 wrote:
    god frbid they let their millions of fans who aren't there seee it..sooo lame

    everyday its something new w/ them :fp:


    once again good job pj
    What will be keeping you from seeing it when everyone posts it in YouTube?
    It's not new that they don't give up control of their work.

    Give up control? They are playing a festival for Jay Z sponsored by Budweiser.
  • AlbertaGirl70_AlbertaGirl70_ Posts: 1,738
    demetrios wrote:
    LiLiNY81 wrote:
    Their performance is being broadcast through iheart radio. No visual, but at least we get audio.

    Got a link?

    A link would be awesome I looked through their website but not sure how to "find" the MIA stream??
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  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    AlbertaGirl70_ wrote:
    demetrios wrote:
    LiLiNY81 wrote:
    Their performance is being broadcast through iheart radio. No visual, but at least we get audio.

    Got a link?

    A link would be awesome I looked through their website but not sure how to "find" the MIA stream??

    Unless this is gonna be someone streaming from their laptop of some BS, there is nothing official on iheart radio.
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