Please tell me how what Akin said means anything about Ryan and Romney.
And I gotta admit, I'm anti-abortion. Rape is the situation that really tests your moral beliefs on it. I mean, if you are ok with abortion when a rape occurs why aren't you for it other times? If you are against it because it's killing a life, then how could you be ok with killing an innocent life? But then, how could you make a woman carry a reminder of the horrific attack? Honestly, tough for me to wrap my head around. I know its easy for those that are ok with abortion in most or all cases, but not me.
I hear you on this. While I am pro-choice, I would love nothing more than to one day live in a world where abortion is non-existent because unplanned pregnancies are non-existant.
What angers me about this whole issue is the attitudes expressed by Akin and those that share his views about rape. The estimates are that 1 in 4 women will be raped in her lifetime. If you have a mom, a wife, 2 daughters, chances are that one of them will be raped. I struggle with not only the fact that someone could do what they wish to my body without my consent, but that they can hijack my DNA and my uterus and force me to carry a life that I did not choose to create. This is the very reason rape is used as a weapon of war. This is the reason that rape is used as a part of domestic violence. I think maybe we need to be more outraged by THAT. Much more focus needs to be put on primary prevention, compassion and understanding for survivors. One thing I know about trauma treatment is that when someone has been raped and had the power over her very body taken away, the most important thing is to focus on empowerment. She makes choices about who to tell, how to proceed. To take her power away again by telling her she has no choice but to carry a fetus for 9 months and then go through childbirth (something that can be difficult under the best of circumstance) is unfathomable to me. Having the choice makes all the difference.
I agree with that... and when you have legislation proposed (and right wing talking heads) using the term "forceful rape", it makes my head explode. What the hell is the definition of that and how does it differ from other types of rape?
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“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
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Please tell me how what Akin said means anything about Ryan and Romney.
And I gotta admit, I'm anti-abortion. Rape is the situation that really tests your moral beliefs on it. I mean, if you are ok with abortion when a rape occurs why aren't you for it other times? If you are against it because it's killing a life, then how could you be ok with killing an innocent life? But then, how could you make a woman carry a reminder of the horrific attack? Honestly, tough for me to wrap my head around. I know its easy for those that are ok with abortion in most or all cases, but not me.
I hear you on this. While I am pro-choice, I would love nothing more than to one day live in a world where abortion is non-existent because unplanned pregnancies are non-existant.
What angers me about this whole issue is the attitudes expressed by Akin and those that share his views about rape. The estimates are that 1 in 4 women will be raped in her lifetime. If you have a mom, a wife, 2 daughters, chances are that one of them will be raped. I struggle with not only the fact that someone could do what they wish to my body without my consent, but that they can hijack my DNA and my uterus and force me to carry a life that I did not choose to create. This is the very reason rape is used as a weapon of war. This is the reason that rape is used as a part of domestic violence. I think maybe we need to be more outraged by THAT. Much more focus needs to be put on primary prevention, compassion and understanding for survivors. One thing I know about trauma treatment is that when someone has been raped and had the power over her very body taken away, the most important thing is to focus on empowerment. She makes choices about who to tell, how to proceed. To take her power away again by telling her she has no choice but to carry a fetus for 9 months and then go through childbirth (something that can be difficult under the best of circumstance) is unfathomable to me. Having the choice makes all the difference.
I agree with that... and when you have legislation proposed (and right wing talking heads) using the term "forceful rape", it makes my head explode. What the hell is the definition of that and how does it differ from other types of rape?
My head is exploding too. A violation oft body is a violation of my body, regardless of the method used to void my consent
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I agree with that... and when you have legislation proposed (and right wing talking heads) using the term "forceful rape", it makes my head explode. What the hell is the definition of that and how does it differ from other types of rape?
How many girls in your freshman and sophomore HS class dated seniors? Do the math and you found the differ.
I agree with that... and when you have legislation proposed (and right wing talking heads) using the term "forceful rape", it makes my head explode. What the hell is the definition of that and how does it differ from other types of rape?
How many girls in your freshman and sophomore HS class dated seniors? Do the math and you found the differ.
In my state that would be completely legal unless the guy had been held back once or twice (to date the freshman - would most likely be completely legal regardless to date the sophomore). Depending on where birthdays fall, he might even be able to legally have sex with an 8th grader...and yeah...I think that's a problem.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
Please tell me how what Akin said means anything about Ryan and Romney.
There’s no separation of policy or agendas between Akin, Rand and Romney, they are all linked. Akin’s stands for the same things as Rand and Romney. Akin and Rand co sponsored H.R. 212 on Personhood. Their agenda is
-No abortions for any reason
-Pass a national Personhood law, life the moment a guy lets loose.
-Get rid of Planned Parenthood
-Get rid of Family Planning
-Reduce Medicaid/Medicare to a voucher program
-Privatize Social Security
Akin’s mistake was that he trumped Bob McDonald’s convention agenda by outlining how these extremists arrived at the definition of ‘personhood’ opening the eyes of America as to just how radical they have become.
Now the country will be watching to see if it gets put on the agenda at their Convention.
As to Mitt Romney, he too believes in all of the above, but he didn’t and couldn’t call for Akin’s resignation when the guy he selected for VP not only supports the same viewpoint as Akin, they co sponsored the Bill on Personhood. Romney is always pretending that he is out of the loop, that he has to check and get back to people – awake the hell up people, Romney is never out of the loop, everything he does is scripted, he writes the script and he approves the scripts of his inner circle. Romney knew about Rand's policy and viewpoints and he still named him as VP.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
Please tell me how what Akin said means anything about Ryan and Romney.
There’s no separation of policy or agendas between Akin, Rand and Romney, they are all linked. Akin’s stands for the same things as Rand and Romney. Akin and Rand co sponsored H.R. 212 on Personhood. Their agenda is
-No abortions for any reason
-Pass a national Personhood law, life the moment a guy lets loose.
-Get rid of Planned Parenthood
-Get rid of Family Planning
-Reduce Medicaid/Medicare to a voucher program
-Privatize Social Security
Akin’s mistake was that he trumped Bob McDonald’s convention agenda by outlining how these extremists arrived at the definition of ‘personhood’ opening the eyes of America as to just how radical they have become.
Now the country will be watching to see if it gets put on the agenda at their Convention.
As to Mitt Romney, he too believes in all of the above, but he didn’t and couldn’t call for Akin’s resignation when the guy he selected for VP not only supports the same viewpoint as Akin, they co sponsored the Bill on Personhood. Romney is always pretending that he is out of the loop, that he has to check and get back to people – awake the hell up people, Romney is never out of the loop, everything he does is scripted, he writes the script and he approves the scripts of his inner circle. Romney knew about Rand's policy and viewpoints and he still named him as VP.
Yes they are all for the same things & it's Ryan for VP
Please tell me how what Akin said means anything about Ryan and Romney.
And I gotta admit, I'm anti-abortion. Rape is the situation that really tests your moral beliefs on it. I mean, if you are ok with abortion when a rape occurs why aren't you for it other times? If you are against it because it's killing a life, then how could you be ok with killing an innocent life? But then, how could you make a woman carry a reminder of the horrific attack? Honestly, tough for me to wrap my head around. I know its easy for those that are ok with abortion in most or all cases, but not me.
Akin and Ryan are both co-sponsors of the Fetal Personhood Bill H.R. 212,introducted in Jan. 2011--that's how what Akin said means something about Ryan. The bill effectively criminalizes abortion.
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Please tell me how what Akin said means anything about Ryan and Romney.
Akin and Ryan co-sponsored an abortion bill together. They have almost exactly the same position, just Ryan hasn't told us if he believes that women's vaginas have a magic "shut off" switch.
Akin clarified his remarks in a written statement.
"In reviewing my off-the-cuff remarks, it's clear that I misspoke in this interview and it does not reflect the deep empathy I hold for the thousands of women who are raped and abused every year," Akin's statement said. "Those who perpetrate these crimes are the lowest of the low in our society and their victims will have no stronger advocate in the Senate to help ensure they have the justice they deserve."
this from the :evil: fuckwit that also voted against a national sex offender registry. did it never occur to him that sex offenders cross state lines? what does he care happens to kids that rape victims would be forced to give birth to, should either that child, mother or both become homeless? and kids that happen be exploited?
Akin voted against creating sex offender registry, funding for homeless children
Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) voted against the creation of a national sex offender registry and against reauthorizing a program that assists runaway and homeless children.
Both bills passed by wide margins with strong bipartisan support in the Republican-controlled House.
Akin was one of 52 congressmen to vote in 2005 against the creation of a national sex offender registry database that required those convicted of a sex crime to register before completing a prison term and increased mandatory sentences for those convicted of molesting children.
In 2003, he was one of 14 to vote against the Runaway and Homeless Youth Program and the Missing Children's Assistance Act, which provided $105 million in 2004 for housing, outreach and other programs aimed at assisting runaway and homeless children and also authorized $20 million annually through 2008 for the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
Akin's campaign said he'd voted against them because of their price tags and because they put unfunded mandates on the states.
"The bottom line of this bill is that the total cost was $500 million over five years and [put] unfunded mandates on the states," Akin spokesman Ryan Hite said about the sex offenders bill. "Congressman Akin has always been a vocal advocate of drastically cutting federal spending and he is opposed to unfunded federal mandates on the states."
Hite voiced a similar rationale for opposing the homeless youth program. "The Congressman voted against this because the $750 million price tag over four years was a big consideration as well as his belief that this issue would be better and more efficiently handled at the state level," he said.
The congressman won his Tuesday primary and will face Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) this fall. The state is trending Republican and she's facing a tough race, but Democrats believe votes like these can be used to paint Akin as too conservative for the state — and are gleeful that Republicans nominated him and not one of the other candidates in the primary, who they believe would have been tougher to beat.
I agree with that... and when you have legislation proposed (and right wing talking heads) using the term "forceful rape", it makes my head explode. What the hell is the definition of that and how does it differ from other types of rape?
How many girls in your freshman and sophomore HS class dated seniors? Do the math and you found the differ.
In my state that would be completely legal unless the guy had been held back once or twice (to date the freshman - would most likely be completely legal regardless to date the sophomore). Depending on where birthdays fall, he might even be able to legally have sex with an 8th grader...and yeah...I think that's a problem.
Actually this would be completely legal in Missouri as well - age of consent is 14 unless the perpetrator is over the age of 21.
And prism - that is really concerning. It's clear this Akin is not focused on protecting victims. They're just collateral damage.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
How many girls in your freshman and sophomore HS class dated seniors? Do the math and you found the differ.
In my state that would be completely legal unless the guy had been held back once or twice (to date the freshman - would most likely be completely legal regardless to date the sophomore). Depending on where birthdays fall, he might even be able to legally have sex with an 8th grader...and yeah...I think that's a problem.
Actually this would be completely legal in Missouri as well - age of consent is 14 unless the perpetrator is over the age of 21.
And prism - that is really concerning. It's clear this Akin is not focused on protecting victims. They're just collateral damage.
he's a twisted fucking moron. :evil: how anyone can buy his "apology" as anything other than additional pandering bullshit to cover his ass to get elected goes beyond reason. those that still defend and support akin with his voting record are disturbed too...given it dismisses victims in favor of sex offenders
Please tell me how what Akin said means anything about Ryan and Romney.
There’s no separation of policy or agendas between Akin, Rand and Romney, they are all linked. Akin’s stands for the same things as Rand and Romney. Akin and Rand co sponsored H.R. 212 on Personhood. Their agenda is
-No abortions for any reason
-Pass a national Personhood law, life the moment a guy lets loose.
-Get rid of Planned Parenthood
-Get rid of Family Planning
-Reduce Medicaid/Medicare to a voucher program
-Privatize Social Security
Bingo, this sums it up concisely. All 6 points are documented and fairly easy to find.
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Yes they are all for the same things & it's Ryan for VP
I know it's Ryan but he has so much baggage that I sometimes get overloaded on his Ayn Rand socialist philosophy. I'll slow my brain down and try to separate his name with his teachings.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
I disagree about being Independent and should not lean to the right at all,
I think that comes down to core beliefs and what you feel would help the country.
I'm confused - what are you saying? Are you disagreeing that I'm independent?
Perhaps I was the one confused I was addressing this
I don't think Ryan's budget is law as is nor will it be so if elected.
It only isn't law because Republicans don't control the presidency or Senate. It was an official submitted bill. These things are much closer to reality than you want to believe.
I disagree with extreme Democratic measures too, such as the NYC banning of sodas over 16 oz and denying permits to Chick-fil-a's in Boston, Chicago & San Francisco. I am a moderate. Unfortunately, moderates have no place anywhere near the Republican Party, as Willard found out before he took all his positions and changed them to suit this stark reality.
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I agree with that... and when you have legislation proposed (and right wing talking heads) using the term "forceful rape", it makes my head explode. What the hell is the definition of that and how does it differ from other types of rape?
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
There’s no separation of policy or agendas between Akin, Rand and Romney, they are all linked. Akin’s stands for the same things as Rand and Romney. Akin and Rand co sponsored H.R. 212 on Personhood. Their agenda is
-No abortions for any reason
-Pass a national Personhood law, life the moment a guy lets loose.
-Get rid of Planned Parenthood
-Get rid of Family Planning
-Reduce Medicaid/Medicare to a voucher program
-Privatize Social Security
Akin’s mistake was that he trumped Bob McDonald’s convention agenda by outlining how these extremists arrived at the definition of ‘personhood’ opening the eyes of America as to just how radical they have become.
Now the country will be watching to see if it gets put on the agenda at their Convention.
As to Mitt Romney, he too believes in all of the above, but he didn’t and couldn’t call for Akin’s resignation when the guy he selected for VP not only supports the same viewpoint as Akin, they co sponsored the Bill on Personhood. Romney is always pretending that he is out of the loop, that he has to check and get back to people – awake the hell up people, Romney is never out of the loop, everything he does is scripted, he writes the script and he approves the scripts of his inner circle. Romney knew about Rand's policy and viewpoints and he still named him as VP.
Yes they are all for the same things & it's Ryan for VP
Akin and Ryan are both co-sponsors of the Fetal Personhood Bill H.R. 212,introducted in Jan. 2011--that's how what Akin said means something about Ryan. The bill effectively criminalizes abortion.
Akin and Ryan co-sponsored an abortion bill together. They have almost exactly the same position, just Ryan hasn't told us if he believes that women's vaginas have a magic "shut off" switch.
Akin on rape:'the female body has ways to try and shut the whole thing down'. Today he's claiming the medical term for that is "Pussy Riot"
"In reviewing my off-the-cuff remarks, it's clear that I misspoke in this interview and it does not reflect the deep empathy I hold for the thousands of women who are raped and abused every year," Akin's statement said. "Those who perpetrate these crimes are the lowest of the low in our society and their victims will have no stronger advocate in the Senate to help ensure they have the justice they deserve."
this from the :evil: fuckwit that also voted against a national sex offender registry. did it never occur to him that sex offenders cross state lines? what does he care happens to kids that rape victims would be forced to give birth to, should either that child, mother or both become homeless? and kids that happen be exploited?
Akin voted against creating sex offender registry, funding for homeless children
Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) voted against the creation of a national sex offender registry and against reauthorizing a program that assists runaway and homeless children.
Both bills passed by wide margins with strong bipartisan support in the Republican-controlled House.
Akin was one of 52 congressmen to vote in 2005 against the creation of a national sex offender registry database that required those convicted of a sex crime to register before completing a prison term and increased mandatory sentences for those convicted of molesting children.
In 2003, he was one of 14 to vote against the Runaway and Homeless Youth Program and the Missing Children's Assistance Act, which provided $105 million in 2004 for housing, outreach and other programs aimed at assisting runaway and homeless children and also authorized $20 million annually through 2008 for the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
Akin's campaign said he'd voted against them because of their price tags and because they put unfunded mandates on the states.
"The bottom line of this bill is that the total cost was $500 million over five years and [put] unfunded mandates on the states," Akin spokesman Ryan Hite said about the sex offenders bill. "Congressman Akin has always been a vocal advocate of drastically cutting federal spending and he is opposed to unfunded federal mandates on the states."
Hite voiced a similar rationale for opposing the homeless youth program. "The Congressman voted against this because the $750 million price tag over four years was a big consideration as well as his belief that this issue would be better and more efficiently handled at the state level," he said.
The congressman won his Tuesday primary and will face Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) this fall. The state is trending Republican and she's facing a tough race, but Democrats believe votes like these can be used to paint Akin as too conservative for the state — and are gleeful that Republicans nominated him and not one of the other candidates in the primary, who they believe would have been tougher to beat.
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Actually this would be completely legal in Missouri as well - age of consent is 14 unless the perpetrator is over the age of 21.
And prism - that is really concerning. It's clear this Akin is not focused on protecting victims. They're just collateral damage.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
he's a twisted fucking moron. :evil: how anyone can buy his "apology" as anything other than additional pandering bullshit to cover his ass to get elected goes beyond reason. those that still defend and support akin with his voting record are disturbed too...given it dismisses victims in favor of sex offenders
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Bingo, this sums it up concisely. All 6 points are documented and fairly easy to find.
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Cox Arena - Jul 7, 2006
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Alpine Valley Music Theater - Sep 3-4 2011
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Dallas-November 2013
OKC-November 2013
ACL 2-October 2014
Fenway Night 1, August 2016
Wrigley, Night 1 August 2018
Fort Worth, Night 1 September 2023
Fort Worth, Night 2 September 2023
Austin, Night 1 September 2023
Austin, Night 2 September 2023
I know it's Ryan but he has so much baggage that I sometimes get overloaded on his Ayn Rand socialist philosophy. I'll slow my brain down and try to separate his name with his teachings.
Someone doesn't understand what the Independent party is about.