Thank you Todd Akin, Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney
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Finally, the cat is out of the bag, in terms that the entire Nation can understand. Finally, we are privy to the policy of these Extremist Thinking Politicians and Groups and how far they are willing to go to control the reproductive rights of women. To quantify Rape as just another form of sex should angry every woman in America, because every woman in America knows that at any given time or place they can be raped.
Mitt Romney, the man running for the President of the United States of America responded by saying 'the rapist should be punished, not the child'. WHAT ABOUT THE WOMAN!! Romney's flip flop position of No Means No it is now No Means Nothing, but he'll have to check with his people and get back to us on that.
Somebody tell this idiot, that as a candidate for President, we are the people.
Mitt Romney, the man running for the President of the United States of America responded by saying 'the rapist should be punished, not the child'. WHAT ABOUT THE WOMAN!! Romney's flip flop position of No Means No it is now No Means Nothing, but he'll have to check with his people and get back to us on that.
Somebody tell this idiot, that as a candidate for President, we are the people.
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They are not mentioning it, discussing it or allowing the very obvious connections between Akin And Paul Ryan to be drawn.
"fair and balanced" my ass.
but this link took me all of 30 seconds to find on the fox news web site.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08 ... nate-race/
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WTF Congressman? WTF?
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And I gotta admit, I'm anti-abortion. Rape is the situation that really tests your moral beliefs on it. I mean, if you are ok with abortion when a rape occurs why aren't you for it other times? If you are against it because it's killing a life, then how could you be ok with killing an innocent life? But then, how could you make a woman carry a reminder of the horrific attack? Honestly, tough for me to wrap my head around. I know its easy for those that are ok with abortion in most or all cases, but not me.
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http://thinkprogress.org/media/2012/08/ ... -comments/
Just like Akin discovered, it is best not to spread false information.
I don't watch any of those stations...all American news is slanted toward one party or the other...as a Canadian I find American politics amusing (really all politics), but especially America...like either party is going to make a difference in the average lower to middle class life...I wouldn't hold my breath.
The point was it took me all of 30 seconds to find the news story on fox news web site...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Well considering Kristen Stewart, Madonna and that baby hooker can't make laws about what happens in your wife's uterus should she be raped, I'm going to say the Akin story is a bit more... pertinent to the current election cycle discourse.
nah I much prefer to fight about this. This Akin guy is a moron. No matter his beliefs on whether or not abortion is murder and when, he made a terrible decision and expressed a view backed up by "doctors" that is so ridiculous I would have thought it was an off color joke made at a roast.
But trying to tie this to Mitt Romney is a stretch, Paul Ryan as much, but they didn't say it.
I am not going to defend Akin, but Romney did come out right away and say it was inexcusable. But most people intent on not voting for him won't care about that...I am not going to vote for Romney, but it isn't because of what Akin said.
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That's fine and all, but this is a man with real power, running for a position of MORE POWER. He has partnered with the Republican Vice Presidential Nominee on legislation ON THIS VERY ISSUE. This is a very relevant story, and Americans should be paying attention to it.
This isn't stupid shit like:
-Congressman skinnydipping in Israel.
-Biden's latest gaffe.
-Ann Romney's horse ballet in the Olympics.
This is legitimately important and IS A TRUE REFLECTION of the views of the Republican Party, and the TEA PARTY in particular.
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Not me they are seen for what they are and common sense will prevail.
It almost seems like the extreme issues,
those of the extremists are meant to divide our country when in fact
the majority can be brought together through them.
Now lets get back to the real issue of the campaign not the diversions,
what are the candidates going to do about the economy?
What has our President not been able to accomplish in one term?
and will four more make a difference or should we go for a new
strategy?
Those who vote down party lines only will not be asking these questions,
for me that is a mild form extremism.
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We all should be very afraid of them when they win elections and put their extremist views into law.
Such as Paul Ryan's Extreme Budget.
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How about instead of attempting to go off topic, we stay on topic and that would be about the Republicans...
You don't think that forcing you to carry your rapist's fetus to term is a "real issue?"
I find it very sad that your vote is equal to that of... People.
Haha, I was joking about what I've been seeing in the news lately.
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Exactly this ^^^ This is the GOP party as we know it today that includes Romney & Ryan ....
in fact what might eventually be law could be the exact opposite,
that fact makes me very sad.
Vote to keep individual rights, the right to choose how you live your life,
vote for freedom.
The main point of my post is to bring up the point of the diversion this is from
issues affecting the American public.
I did not mean to say anyone should address those questions I raised
just pointing out this situation is a diversion
Being an independent all extremists seem ridiculous to me.
both parties.
Then I can better understand your point.
I don't think Ryan's budget is law as is nor will it be so if elected.
It only isn't law because Republicans don't control the presidency or Senate. It was an official submitted bill. These things are much closer to reality than you want to believe.
I disagree with extreme Democratic measures too, such as the NYC banning of sodas over 16 oz and denying permits to Chick-fil-a's in Boston, Chicago & San Francisco. I am a moderate. Unfortunately, moderates have no place anywhere near the Republican Party, as Willard found out before he took all his positions and changed them to suit this stark reality.
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although I did see some of the accusations about the bill from the blue side
were inaccurate or untruths.
I disagree about being Independent and should not lean to the right at all,
I think that comes down to core beliefs and what you feel would help the country.
Myself I want a new party called the freedom party that preserves our rights
that may in the future sneakily disappear. This is what is right for the American people,
our rights and I think most can make the right choice too when given the right information.
I'm confused - what are you saying? Are you disagreeing that I'm independent?
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What angers me about this whole issue is the attitudes expressed by Akin and those that share his views about rape. The estimates are that 1 in 4 women will be raped in her lifetime. If you have a mom, a wife, 2 daughters, chances are that one of them will be raped. I struggle with not only the fact that someone could do what they wish to my body without my consent, but that they can hijack my DNA and my uterus and force me to carry a life that I did not choose to create. This is the very reason rape is used as a weapon of war. This is the reason that rape is used as a part of domestic violence. I think maybe we need to be more outraged by THAT. Much more focus needs to be put on primary prevention, compassion and understanding for survivors. One thing I know about trauma treatment is that when someone has been raped and had the power over her very body taken away, the most important thing is to focus on empowerment. She makes choices about who to tell, how to proceed. To take her power away again by telling her she has no choice but to carry a fetus for 9 months and then go through childbirth (something that can be difficult under the best of circumstance) is unfathomable to me. Having the choice makes all the difference.
"I need your strength for me to be strong...I need your love to feel loved"
"I was raped fair and square..it was a legitimate rape, but my body was unable to shut things down, so here were are!...win some lose some, eh?"