Thank hunters for wildlife restoration

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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    I started my life out not being able to understand someone who hunts, I judged.

    As I lived my life, I have known and loved hunters, allowing me to grow and understand
    that they do not deserve to be wrongly judged because I do not hunt.

    Just because someone themselves can not pull a trigger, doesn't mean no one should.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    pandora wrote:
    I started my life out not being able to understand someone who hunts, I judged.

    As I lived my life, I have known and loved hunters, allowing me to grow and understand
    that they do not deserve to be wrongly judged because I do not hunt.

    Just because someone themselves can not pull a trigger, doesn't mean no one should.

    I agree...I'm just not going to be a hypocrite on the subject, as long as its for food and not trophy...no problems here.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    lukin2006 wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    I started my life out not being able to understand someone who hunts, I judged.

    As I lived my life, I have known and loved hunters, allowing me to grow and understand
    that they do not deserve to be wrongly judged because I do not hunt.

    Just because someone themselves can not pull a trigger, doesn't mean no one should.

    I agree...I'm just not going to be a hypocrite on the subject, as long as its for food and not trophy...no problems here.


    Definition for clarity purposes ...
    been there done that ;)

    Trophy hunting is the selective hunting of wild game animals. Although parts of the slain animal may be kept as a hunting trophy or memorial (usually the skin, antlers and/or head), the carcass itself is sometimes used as food.
    Trophy hunting has firm supporters and opponents. Public debate about trophy hunting often centres on the question of the morality of sport hunting and the question of the extent to which the money paid by trophy hunters benefits the population of game animals and the local economy.
    Trophy hunting should not be confused with poaching, the practice of taking game illegally.



    Trophy hunters I have known also, the love and respect they have for animals,
    at least these hunters. It is of course harder for a non hunter to understand
    or even the hunter who only kills for food.
    It is a different mindset but one I understand.

    To understand is not to condone for all, expect from all, nor of course participate in.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    pandora wrote:
    Definition for clarity purposes ...
    been there done that ;)

    Trophy hunting is the selective hunting of wild game animals. Although parts of the slain animal may be kept as a hunting trophy or memorial (usually the skin, antlers and/or head), the carcass itself is sometimes used as food.
    Trophy hunting has firm supporters and opponents. Public debate about trophy hunting often centres on the question of the morality of sport hunting and the question of the extent to which the money paid by trophy hunters benefits the population of game animals and the local economy.
    Trophy hunting should not be confused with poaching, the practice of taking game illegally.



    Trophy hunters I have known also, the love and respect they have for animals,
    at least these hunters. It is of course harder for a non hunter to understand
    or even the hunter who only kills for food.
    It is a different mindset but one I understand.

    To understand is not to condone for all, expect from all, nor of course participate in.
    http://youtu.be/atgof-9nqPk
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    chadwick wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Definition for clarity purposes ...
    been there done that ;)

    Trophy hunting is the selective hunting of wild game animals. Although parts of the slain animal may be kept as a hunting trophy or memorial (usually the skin, antlers and/or head), the carcass itself is sometimes used as food.
    Trophy hunting has firm supporters and opponents. Public debate about trophy hunting often centres on the question of the morality of sport hunting and the question of the extent to which the money paid by trophy hunters benefits the population of game animals and the local economy.
    Trophy hunting should not be confused with poaching, the practice of taking game illegally.



    Trophy hunters I have known also, the love and respect they have for animals,
    at least these hunters. It is of course harder for a non hunter to understand
    or even the hunter who only kills for food.
    It is a different mindset but one I understand.

    To understand is not to condone for all, expect from all, nor of course participate in.
    http://youtu.be/atgof-9nqPk
    You've working on changing this I believe since the last thread yes? ...
    can you share?

    I too have donated to those trying to protect and preserve since the last thread,
    change the laws.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    ^^^say what?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    chadwick wrote:
    ^^^say what?
    you're kidding right ? all this passion going to waste?
    or you just don't want to share perhaps. That shouldn't be construed as bragging
    or should we say twist it as bragging, as some posters do...
    when one gives money, time and energy to their passion.

    Even the hunters themselves are donating indirectly as the op posted.


    As far as poaching though which is just one threat to wildlife,
    I've done some research.

    I came across this article after the last thread, it gave me some hope
    for both man and animal, both worth saving.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1023/p01s07-woaf.html
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,423
    I would encourage anyone serious about restoring wild life to check out Wildlands Network:

    http://www.twp.org/

    I will ignore troll responses to this post.
    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    This is a great organization I think it was a different name though to begin with...

    Working to keep natural land protected for habitat and keep them connected
    thus protecting the animals.

    We have so many city deer now, different then when I moved here in 1991,
    land cleared and left empty without building anything in this recession.
    The poor deer lost their protection, their food, their homes.
    So much danger for them.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    "say what" means i do not understand your writing(s). are you saying i am bragging about my views on trophy hunting and poachers? and no i haven't donated a dime. i tend to eat from soup kitchens/churchs due to being poor and paying what money i do have towards outstanding bills. i usually don't have enough funds to buy food for the entire month and i don't get food money from the state.

    i write papers and learn environmental sciences when attending school and do research on my own for the love of it. i'm one click above being wheelchair bound. so no i don't run through the safari & jungle saving critters. again, how am i bragging?

    recently in a locked thread you stated you and your husband share a $200,000.00 yearly income. it is nice of you to donate. i am well into or even below poverty level.

    so you see, rhinoceros will have to wait (if they can hold out that long) for my donation of $3.00 while multi-millionaire ted nugent & the like mow them down.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    chadwick wrote:
    "say what" means i do not understand your writing(s). are you saying i am bragging about my views on trophy hunting and poachers? and no i haven't donated a dime. i tend to eat from soup kitchens/churchs due to being poor and paying what money i do have towards outstanding bills. i usually don't have enough funds to buy food for the entire month and i don't get food money from the state.

    i write papers and learn environmental sciences when attending school and do research on my own for the love of it. i'm one click above being wheelchair bound. so no i don't run through the safari & jungle saving critters. again, how am i bragging?

    recently in a locked thread you stated you and your husband share a $200,000.00 yearly income. it is nice of you to donate. i am well into or even below poverty level.

    so you see, rhinoceros will have to wait (if they can hold out that long) for my donation of $3.00 while multi-millionaire ted nugent & the like mow them down.
    you're right you didn't understand my post ...
    nor our income :?


    no I did not accuse you of bragging
    I thought you maybe didn't want to share because it could be construed as bragging
    by some posters here.

    In the future if you want a clarification I will lend one....
    if you don't you can let it go then and chalk it up to not getting it.
    That happens to me with some posts too.

    No that is what the Doctors in the neighborhood make ... how I wish :lol:
    no we make what CBG said healthcare workers make ... we share a $40,000 income, JB and I.

    We donate both through the biz and privately though not as much as in the 90's.
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    pandora wrote:
    you're right you didn't understand my post ...
    nor our income :?


    no I did not accuse you of bragging
    I thought you maybe didn't want to share because it could be construed as bragging
    by some posters here.

    In the future if you want a clarification I will lend one....
    if you don't you can let it go then and chalk it up to not getting it.
    That happens to me with some posts too.

    No that is what the Doctors in the neighborhood make ... how I wish :lol:
    no we make what CBG said healthcare workers make ... we share a $40,000 income, JB and I.

    We donate both through the biz and privately though not as much as in the 90's.



    "Actually that is pretty comfortable ...
    better than a lot of people.

    I know the Docs in the neighborhood make closer to 200 grand a year..

    JB and I we are living on that now for the both of us ...
    but then I don't buy shoes like I used to ( a pair of flip flops lasts a year)
    or go see PJ anymore

    What is your point again?" - pandora. page 151 of the locked up thread, "what's going wrong with the world? more shooting"
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    chadwick wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    you're right you didn't understand my post ...
    nor our income :?


    no I did not accuse you of bragging
    I thought you maybe didn't want to share because it could be construed as bragging
    by some posters here.

    In the future if you want a clarification I will lend one....
    if you don't you can let it go then and chalk it up to not getting it.
    That happens to me with some posts too.

    No that is what the Doctors in the neighborhood make ... how I wish :lol:
    no we make what CBG said healthcare workers make ... we share a $40,000 income, JB and I.

    We donate both through the biz and privately though not as much as in the 90's.



    "Actually that is pretty comfortable ...
    better than a lot of people.

    I know the Docs in the neighborhood make closer to 200 grand a year..

    JB and I we are living on that now for the both of us ...
    but then I don't buy shoes like I used to ( a pair of flip flops lasts a year)
    or go see PJ anymore

    What is your point again?" - pandora. page 151 of the locked up thread, "what's going wrong with the world? more shooting."

    off topic but will respond to you
    It is comfortable its ok and no can't buy shoes anymore...

    I was supporting the fact that some in the profession make a pretty penny...
    one would think if I worded that at all wrong the part about the shoes would clarify...
    thinking 200 grand a year buys some shoes! ;)

    and some PJ trips...

    $40,000 for two not so much.

    Again I meant and was making the point to CBG that
    many live on an income like that and can still donate time and energy to a passion,
    like walk in clinics. I know for sure the docs making six figures can.

    But if you ever need clarification like now don't hesitate to ask...
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