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Social Security Admin - Buying 174,000 .357 Rounds?

Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
edited August 2012 in A Moving Train
Here is the official request for 174,000 rounds of hollow-point, high capacity .357 ammunition:

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=6c39a2a9f00a10187a1432388a3301e5&tab=core&_cview=0&fb_source=message

How say you on this purchase?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    those are most likely for use by the obamacare death panels...
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    those are most likely for use by the obamacare death panels...


    Haha, that there is legitimate funny!
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    cincybearcat wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    those are most likely for use by the obamacare death panels...


    Haha, that there is legitimate funny!
    i have my moments.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    The spreadsheet (linked on the FBO's site) gives contacts and phone numbers for each office and the total amount of rounds they requested.

    Odd that St. Louis only requested 1,000 rounds and Manchester, NH needs 15,000 rounds.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Jason P wrote:
    The spreadsheet (linked on the FBO's site) gives contacts and phone numbers for each office and the total amount of rounds they requested.

    Odd that St. Louis only requested 1,000 rounds and Manchester, NH needs 15,000 rounds.
    we don't need government shootin' people here in st louis. the people take care of that well enough on their own....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,492
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    The spreadsheet (linked on the FBO's site) gives contacts and phone numbers for each office and the total amount of rounds they requested.

    Odd that St. Louis only requested 1,000 rounds and Manchester, NH needs 15,000 rounds.
    we don't need government shootin' people here in st louis. the people take care of that well enough on their own....


    Yeah, but on the coasts people expect the government to do everything for them.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    The spreadsheet (linked on the FBO's site) gives contacts and phone numbers for each office and the total amount of rounds they requested.

    Odd that St. Louis only requested 1,000 rounds and Manchester, NH needs 15,000 rounds.
    we don't need government shootin' people here in st louis. the people take care of that well enough on their own....
    I remember watching a Blues feed around Xmas and the Police Commissioner was on a commercial begging people not to fire their guns in the air on New Year's Eve.

    :fp:
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    if they can ... I can ;)
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Jason P wrote:
    I remember watching a Blues feed around Xmas and the Police Commissioner was on a commercial begging people not to fire their guns in the air on New Year's Eve.

    :fp:
    yeah that is a legitimate concern, particularly in north city. it happens around the 4th of july too. i guess if you can't afford the big fireworks the people here shoot the firearms...

    sorry to have derailed the thread. i can not access the link in the OP here at work for some reason. does it say why this ammo is necessary for the ssa?
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Yeah, but on the coasts people expect the government to do everything for them.
    Not all people on the coasts, I tell ya!

    Jason, same thing here every damn new year. And every damn new year, some poor innocent gets hit.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Jason P wrote:
    The spreadsheet (linked on the FBO's site) gives contacts and phone numbers for each office and the total amount of rounds they requested.

    Odd that St. Louis only requested 1,000 rounds and Manchester, NH needs 15,000 rounds.

    they take that 'live free or die' shit seriously
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I remember watching a Blues feed around Xmas and the Police Commissioner was on a commercial begging people not to fire their guns in the air on New Year's Eve.

    :fp:
    yeah that is a legitimate concern, particularly in north city. it happens around the 4th of july too. i guess if you can't afford the big fireworks the people here shoot the firearms...

    sorry to have derailed the thread. i can not access the link in the OP here at work for some reason. does it say why this ammo is necessary for the ssa?
    A bit hard to tell on my end - looks like these folks are licensed to carry and this is the ammo being collectively requested.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    sorry to have derailed the thread. i can not access the link in the OP here at work for some reason. does it say why this ammo is necessary for the ssa?
    Typical government mumbo-jumbo ...


    This is a combined synopsis/solicitation for commercial items prepared in accordance with the format in Subpart 12.6, as supplemented with additional information attached to this notice. This announcement constitutes the only solicitation; quotations are being requested at this time.
    The Social Security Administration is seeking quotations for ammunition.
    LINE ITEM 001: .357 Duty Carry Sig 125 grain bonded JHP hollow point bullet ammunition for Law Enforcement. Item description: GSB357SB/29408 357 SIG BJHP B: Quantity: 174 TH
    The small business size standard is 1000 employees. The North America Industry Classification System (NAICS) code for this acquisition is 332992.
    This acquisition is being conducted in accordance with Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) Part 12, Acquisition of Commercial Items and Part 13, Simplified Acquisition Procedures.
    This procurement is being issued as a 100% Total Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small Business Set-Aside. Quotations submitted from other than Service-Disabled Veteran-Owned Small businesses will not be considered. The incorporated provisions and clauses are those in effect through the latest Federal Acquisition Circular 2005-60 (JULY 2012). This request for quotation is identified as Solicitation
    # SSA-RFQ-12-1851.

    SHIPPING / DELIVERY:
    Shipping/Delivery must be free on board (FOB) destination CONUS (Continental U.S.).
    Ammunition will be shipped to forty-one (41) locations. Location for delivery are provided in attachment #4. Inside delivery and advance notification of delivery shall be confirmed with the point of contact on the attached delivery spreadsheet; contact MUST be made either by phone or fax. Contractor must ship ammunition to offices listed on delivery location attachment #4 within 60 days of purchase.
    Responses to this combined synopsis/solicitation are due no later than 1 p.m. EST, Monday , August 13, 2012. Offerors may send responses via email to <!-- e --><a href="mailto:Laverne.Redd@ssa.gov">Laverne.Redd@ssa.gov</a><!-- e -->. E-mail communications shall include company name, point of contact, e-mail address, phone and fax numbers. Offerors must be registered in the Central Contractor Registration (CCR) database before an award can be made to them. If the offeror is not registered in the CCR, it may do so through the CCR website at http://www.ccr.gov.
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    Ahh yes.

    Thanks for sharing
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    Does anyone understand what a government "set aside" is?

    Websters defines it as:

    A federal program requiring that a certain percentage of government funds and contracts be reserved for businesses owned by women and members of minority groups.

    Something very fishy about this. Is this how Travolta got his ammo in Swordfish?
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    The spreadsheet (linked on the FBO's site) gives contacts and phone numbers for each office and the total amount of rounds they requested.

    Odd that St. Louis only requested 1,000 rounds and Manchester, NH needs 15,000 rounds.
    we don't need government shootin' people here in st louis. the people take care of that well enough on their own....
    a little east st. louis .357 gun play never hurt anyone on the banks of the ol' mighty miss-a-sip... it... wait.. hurt? no... killed, yes

    nice place that east st. louis. i used to deliver fish to there... fuck the hell off. frickin war zone 10 fold
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    can't take to long to produce 174,00 rounds of ammo. we have the ammunition plant just across the way over here and it has been making bullets big & small for a very long time. they're a government outfit and employ many a workers and are inside guarded enterance ways and inside barbwire fencing all surrounded by corn & soybean fields. they used to mess with automatic energy back in the 50's-70's.

    174thousand .357 shells isn't shit really.

    ever walk into a social security building? they have a armed guard at the front door greeting you. no water bottles are allowed. take your number and wait your turn. have a nice day
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    chadwick wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    The spreadsheet (linked on the FBO's site) gives contacts and phone numbers for each office and the total amount of rounds they requested.

    Odd that St. Louis only requested 1,000 rounds and Manchester, NH needs 15,000 rounds.
    we don't need government shootin' people here in st louis. the people take care of that well enough on their own....
    a little east st. louis .357 gun play never hurt anyone on the banks of the ol' mighty miss-a-sip... it... wait.. hurt? no... killed, yes

    nice place that east st. louis. i used to deliver fish to there... fuck the hell off. frickin war zone 10 fold

    .357 is not the weaopn of choice...too much power the rounds usally go clean thru (entry and exit wound) so now I'm curious why they need .357 rounds ?

    Godfather.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    chadwick wrote:
    ever walk into a social security building? they have a armed guard at the front door greeting you. no water bottles are allowed. take your number and wait your turn. have a nice day
    Armed guards? Hmm. I must live in a more laid-back area.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Godfather. wrote:
    .357 is not the weaopn of choice...too much power the rounds usally go clean thru (entry and exit wound) so now I'm curious why they need .357 rounds ?

    Godfather.
    an agenda? and you are right about a few things. armed guards at government building generally carry a semi-automatic of some kind. a .44, .45, or a 9mm. is there a semi automatic .357 these days? a glock .357? i've only know of the .357 revolvers.

    imagine a .357 with a 13 round clip up the butt of the thing (or whatever shell count) and one in the chamber. frickin on like donkey kong

    :twisted: btw, what is wrong w/ in & out shell power? :evil: .357 is my favorite handgun round and my favorite cracking sound when set off. although a .44 magnum has some sound to 'em :corn:
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    chadwick wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    .357 is not the weaopn of choice...too much power the rounds usally go clean thru (entry and exit wound) so now I'm curious why they need .357 rounds ?

    Godfather.
    an agenda? and you are right about a few things. armed guards at government building generally carry a semi-automatic of some kind. a .44, .45, or a 9mm. is there a semi automatic .357 these days? a glock .357? i've only know of the .357 revolvers.

    imagine a .357 with a 13 round clip up the butt of the thing (or whatever shell count) and one in the chamber. frickin on like donkey kong

    :twisted: btw, what is wrong w/ in & out shell power? :evil: .357 is my favorite handgun round and my favorite cracking sound when set off. although a .44 magnum has some sound to 'em :corn:

    I think it's just the issue with the power. Don't need the bullet carrying on so it may accidentally hit another person...
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited August 2012
    Jason P wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    ever walk into a social security building? they have a armed guard at the front door greeting you. no water bottles are allowed. take your number and wait your turn. have a nice day
    Armed guards? Hmm. I must live in a more laid-back area.
    every social security building has an armed guard...to my notion anyway. very serious place. mostly a group of overpaid shiftless lil shits but nonetheless they're protected generally by a rotund armed guard whom dislikes folks to carry in a bottle of water
    Post edited by chadwick on
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    chadwick wrote:
    can't take to long to produce 174,00 rounds of ammo. we have the ammunition plant just across the way over here and it has been making bullets big & small for a very long time. they're a government outfit and employ many a workers and are inside guarded enterance ways and inside barbwire fencing all surrounded by corn & soybean fields. they used to mess with automatic energy back in the 50's-70's.

    174thousand .357 shells isn't shit really.

    ever walk into a social security building? they have a armed guard at the front door greeting you. no water bottles are allowed. take your number and wait your turn. have a nice day
    ...
    174,000 rounds. Isn't that about 27% of the current inventory at your local Wal-Mart?
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    I think it's just the issue with the power. Don't need the bullet carrying on so it may accidentally hit another person...
    good thinkin, sir! i think you're right. never thought of it that way.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    chadwick wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    ever walk into a social security building? they have a armed guard at the front door greeting you. no water bottles are allowed. take your number and wait your turn. have a nice day
    Armed guards? Hmm. I must live in a more laid-back area.
    every social security building has an armed guard...to my notion anyway. very serious place. mostly a group of overpaid shiftless lil shits but nonetheless they're protected generally by a rotund armed guard whom dislikes folks to carry in a bottle of water
    You solved and re-opened my conspiracy theory in the last 60 minutes! Guards needing ammo made sense (didn't seem efficient based on the bulk quantities, but this is the US government we are talking about). But purchasing ammo generally reserved for revolvers doesn't make sense.

    Hmm ... :think:

    I need DriftingbytheStorm's input on this one. :idea:
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    chadwick wrote:
    every social security building has an armed guard...to my notion anyway. very serious place. mostly a group of overpaid shiftless lil shits but nonetheless they're protected generally by a rotund armed guard whom dislikes folks to carry in a bottle of water
    I had to get a new card a few years back. Unless the little old lady had a gun taped underneath her desk, I'm pretty sure I didn't see any guards. It was as exciting as going to the BMV.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Cosmo wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    can't take to long to produce 174,00 rounds of ammo. we have the ammunition plant just across the way over here and it has been making bullets big & small for a very long time. they're a government outfit and employ many a workers and are inside guarded enterance ways and inside barbwire fencing all surrounded by corn & soybean fields. they used to mess with automatic energy back in the 50's-70's.

    174thousand .357 shells isn't shit really.

    ever walk into a social security building? they have a armed guard at the front door greeting you. no water bottles are allowed. take your number and wait your turn. have a nice day
    ...
    174,000 rounds. Isn't that about 27% of the current inventory at your local Wal-Mart?
    ol' sam walton musta enjoyed target practicing with the rest of the hillbillies down there in arkansas so he collected and started sellin ammo and guns by the semi truck load.

    always cheaper @ wallyworld
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Jason P wrote:
    chadwick wrote:
    every social security building has an armed guard...to my notion anyway. very serious place. mostly a group of overpaid shiftless lil shits but nonetheless they're protected generally by a rotund armed guard whom dislikes folks to carry in a bottle of water
    I had to get a new card a few years back. Unless the little old lady had a gun taped underneath her desk, I'm pretty sure I didn't see any guards. It was as exciting as going to the BMV.
    where and when? maybe that means something
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
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  • peacefrompaulpeacefrompaul Posts: 25,293
    brianlux wrote:
    AMT: the only site in the world with more post regarding guns than the NRA. :roll:

    http://www.nationalgunforum.com/ :P
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