Paul Ryan has hecklers dragged away by police.

Johnny Abruzzo

Free speech is great and all, but heckling is immature and stupid. We need to at least let the other side voice their opinion. Also, the security concerns are valid.

And it is done by BOTH SIDES, and was ENDORSED BY THE ROMNEY CAMPAIGN. Actually by Romney himself if I'm not mistaken. The Obama campaign condemned heckling.

pandora

Zoso wrote:

pandora wrote:

I agree what is happening to the liberals? Where is the common sense?

both sides heckle eachother... either 'side' isn't innocent when it comes to this.. please don't paint liberals as people that lack common sense.

so you think they are showing good common sense doing this? Or do these liberals lack that?
I did not say all...

I would say the same for a conservative, it is rude disruptive and immature.

Do we think the conservatives planted these women?

remember when it was reversed awhile back and someone used that theory...

pandora

Zoso wrote:

I think especially in the south there is a link to hating obama and him being black.. surely you see that.

Do you ever visit the South?
The vast majority of whites do not hate blacks in the South, we live side by side,
those days long gone.
So many yankees now live in the South also, it is actually more segregated in
other parts of the country. I don't see color at all knowing and loving
like I never did in the North.

I think you should come visit and see...

Not liking our President would be more founded in party for sure...
Take notice of how well the black candidates have done and those that hold office.
I might have liked, like many, the opportunity to vote for Cain until his very personal
life was made public and ruined it for him.

JonnyPistachio

pandora wrote:

Zoso wrote:

pandora wrote:

I agree what is happening to the liberals? Where is the common sense?

both sides heckle eachother... either 'side' isn't innocent when it comes to this.. please don't paint liberals as people that lack common sense.

so you think they are showing good common sense doing this? Or do these liberals lack that?
I did not say all...

I would say the same for a conservative, it is rude disruptive and immature.

Do we think the conservatives planted these women?

remember when it was reversed awhile back and someone used that theory...

I didnt read it, but did they get arrested? Unless they got in trouble in some way, I dont think this should be considered lack of common sense. They were probably some extremists that went there to cause a problem in attempt to get headlines. They likely accomplished what they set out to do as a political move.

Zoso

pandora wrote:

Zoso wrote:

I think especially in the south there is a link to hating obama and him being black.. surely you see that.

Do you ever visit the South?
The vast majority of whites do not hate blacks in the South, we live side by side,
those days long gone.
So many yankees now live in the South also, it is actually more segregated in
other parts of the country. I don't see color at all knowing and loving
like I never did in the North.

I think you should come visit and see...

Not liking our President would be more founded in party for sure...
Take notice of how well the black candidates have done and those that hold office.
I might have liked, like many, the opportunity to vote for Cain until his very personal
life was made public and ruined it for him.

so off topic but anyway... it's important to see color because that is what makes us different in a good way and what makes is who we are.

Johnny Abruzzo

pandora wrote:

Zoso wrote:

I think especially in the south there is a link to hating obama and him being black.. surely you see that.

Do you ever visit the South?
The vast majority of whites do not hate blacks in the South, we live side by side,
those days long gone.
So many yankees now live in the South also, it is actually more segregated in
other parts of the country. I don't see color at all knowing and loving
like I never did in the North.

I think you should come visit and see...

Not liking our President would be more founded in party for sure...
Take notice of how well the black candidates have done and those that hold office.
I might have liked, like many, the opportunity to vote for Cain until his very personal
life was made public and ruined it for him.

I'm sick of the Southern stereotypes and I don't even live there.

I wish Herman Cain was still around too. The entertainment value would be priceless.

josevolution

I can't wait for the debates :corn:

hedonist

cincybearcat wrote:

And political candiate, when approached on stage by someone from the crowd, will be protected by removing those people. SHOCKING!!!!

This is just common sense to me, and has nothing to do with partisanship.

It feels like these next three or so months are gonna be like this (but not as cute )

pandora

JonnyPistachio wrote:

pandora wrote:

Zoso wrote:

both sides heckle eachother... either 'side' isn't innocent when it comes to this.. please don't paint liberals as people that lack common sense.

so you think they are showing good common sense doing this? Or do these liberals lack that?
I did not say all...

I would say the same for a conservative, it is rude disruptive and immature.

Do we think the conservatives planted these women?

remember when it was reversed awhile back and someone used that theory...

I didnt read it, but did they get arrested? Unless they got in trouble in some way, I dont think this should be considered lack of common sense. They were probably some extremists that went there to cause a problem in attempt to get headlines. They likely accomplished what they set out to do as a political move.

is that look like asses?

who lack good common sense

pandora

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

pandora wrote:

Zoso wrote:

I think especially in the south there is a link to hating obama and him being black.. surely you see that.

Do you ever visit the South?
The vast majority of whites do not hate blacks in the South, we live side by side,
those days long gone.
So many yankees now live in the South also, it is actually more segregated in
other parts of the country. I don't see color at all knowing and loving
like I never did in the North.

I think you should come visit and see...

Not liking our President would be more founded in party for sure...
Take notice of how well the black candidates have done and those that hold office.
I might have liked, like many, the opportunity to vote for Cain until his very personal
life was made public and ruined it for him.

I'm sick of the Southern stereotypes and I don't even live there.

I wish Herman Cain was still around too. The entertainment value would be priceless.

I liked his hat mostly

pandora

Zoso wrote:

pandora wrote:

Zoso wrote:

I think especially in the south there is a link to hating obama and him being black.. surely you see that.

Do you ever visit the South?
The vast majority of whites do not hate blacks in the South, we live side by side,
those days long gone.
So many yankees now live in the South also, it is actually more segregated in
other parts of the country. I don't see color at all knowing and loving
like I never did in the North.

I think you should come visit and see...

Not liking our President would be more founded in party for sure...
Take notice of how well the black candidates have done and those that hold office.
I might have liked, like many, the opportunity to vote for Cain until his very personal
life was made public and ruined it for him.

so off topic but anyway... it's important to see color because that is what makes us different in a good way and what makes is who we are.

Funny I feel just the opposite, the color of our skin does not make us different,
I think once you love someone you just don't see unimportant things like that.
And it takes just one to love to realize this. We are all just people.

Do you visit the South? because it did sound like stereotyping...
assuming people here are prejudice and hate because of color.

pandora

josevolution wrote:

I can't wait for the debates :corn:

me too but are they just smoke and mirrors?

comebackgirl

pandora wrote:

Zoso wrote:

so off topic but anyway... it's important to see color because that is what makes us different in a good way and what makes is who we are.

Funny I feel just the opposite, the color of our skin does not make us different,
I think once you love someone you just don't see unimportant things like that.
And it takes just one to love to realize this. We are all just people.

Do you visit the South? because it did sound like stereotyping...
assuming people here are prejudice and hate because of color.

Levels of cultural competency
1. Destructiveness: Attitudes, policies and practices destructive to other cultures; purposeful
destruction and dehumanization of other cultures; assumption of cultural superiority; eradication of other cultures; or exploitation by dominant groups. The complete erosion of one's culture by contact with another is rare in today's society.
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6. Proficiency: Cultures are held in high esteem; constant development of new approaches; seeking to add to knowledge base; advocates for cultural competency with all systems and organizations.

gimmesometruth27

so wait....

disrupting healthcare town hall meetings = fine

interrupting someone campaigning for the 2nd highest office in the land by asking questions about the centerpiece of his budget = bad


i think i got it...


:fp:

Johnny Abruzzo

Yeah, I'm getting a lot of - "this is something Liberals Do. but every once in a while a conservative does it too." Bullshit. Those staged health care reform protests were disgraceful.

gimmesometruth27

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Yeah, I'm getting a lot of - "this is something Liberals Do. but every once in a while a conservative does it too." Bullshit. Those staged health care reform protests were disgraceful.

a good number of the republicans and tea party on here felt that that was completely appropriate behavior at the time. now it is an outrage...

our discourse in this country sucks.

cincybearcat

gimmesometruth27 wrote:

so wait....

disrupting healthcare town hall meetings = fine

interrupting someone campaigning for the 2nd highest office in the land by asking questions about the centerpiece of his budget = bad


i think i got it...


:fp:

Ummm, she stepped up onto the stage. :fp:

cincybearcat

Honestly, I don't think I've ever been for heckling or interrupting a speaker.

Now, if it's part of a Q&A period, that's a different story.

But regardless, this person stepped up on the stage and very well could have been going after Ryan. I'm shocked she wasn't tackled.

Jason P

cincybearcat wrote:

Honestly, I don't think I've ever been for heckling or interrupting a speaker.

Now, if it's part of a Q&A period, that's a different story.

But regardless, this person stepped up on the stage and very well could have been going after Ryan. I'm shocked she wasn't tackled.

Yeah, the cop just stood there for a few seconds before realizing, "Oh shit, it's up to me to stop her!".

Johnny Abruzzo

cincybearcat wrote:

Ummm, she stepped up onto the stage. :fp:

Just stop insinuating that it's ok for one side and not the other. We all agreed the heckler's actions were inappropriate in this case.