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Absolute lawlesness on the Obama administration. How the hell can any clear thinking person defend this ? We are now living in the Leftist utopia.
Immagrants dont have to prove they meet Dream act criteria to avoid Charges Ice union cheif says
:shock: :x
A top union official for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers said Thursday that President Barack Obama’s administration has ordered ICE agents to blindly — and without any evidence — believe illegal immigrants if they claim they qualify for Obama’s administrative DREAM Act.
Chris Crane, president of the National Immigration and Customs Enforcement Council, explained at a press conference on Capitol Hill Thursday afternoon how the new selective immigration law enforcement policy Obama announced during a White House Rose Garden speech in June is affecting the officers he represents.
“As we still wait on detailed guidance from the administration, it’s impossible to understand the full scope of the administration’s changes, but what we’ve seen so far concerns us greatly,” Crane, said. “As one example, prosecutorial discretion for DREAMers is solely based on the individual’s claims. Our orders are: If an alien says they went to high school, then let them go. If they say they have a GED, then let them go.”
“Officers have been told that there is no burden for the alien to prove anything,” he continued. “Even with the greatly relaxed policies, the alien is not required to prove that they meet any of the new criteria.”
ICE officers are often called in after local and state law enforcement officials arrest a person and find that he or she is an illegal immigrant. ICE officers also conduct their own investigations and detain suspected illegal immigrants independent of other law enforcement. Normally, if the immigrant is found to be in the country illegally, ICE would bring federal charges against him, possibly leading to deportation.
Under the new orders, however, illegals can escape federal charges simply by claiming — whether it’s the truth or not — that they meet the DREAM Act rule’s requirements issued by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Crane did not specify who has given his officers these new orders.
The new directive would contradict Homeland Security’s own words in announcing the policy, which said that “only those individuals who can prove through verifiable documentation that they meet these criteria will be eligible for deferred action.
Homeland Security announced in June that it will not go after illegals who came to the U.S. under the age of 16 and are not more than 30 years old; have lived in the U.S. for five straight years; are currently in school or have graduated high school, obtained a GED or been honorably discharged from the military; have not been convicted of a felony or significant misdemeanor and are not a threat to public safety.
“At this point, we don’t understand why DHS even has criteria at all as there is no requirement or burden to prove anything on the part of the alien,” Crane added. “We believe significant numbers of aliens who are not DREAMers are taking advantage of this practice to avoid arrest.”
“The lawlessness must end,” Alabama Republican Sen. Jeff Sessions, whose office organized the presser, said.
“They’ve handcuffed and muffled those charged with protecting the public safety and the integrity of our borders,” Sessions said. “Such action has not only weakened our security but our democracy. All Americans, immigrant and native born, will have a better future if our nation remains unique in the world for its special reverence for the rule of law and fairness in our immigration system.”
George McCubbin, the president of the AFL-CIO-backed National Border Patrol Council, said Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano’s claim that the border is more secure than ever are downright untrue.
“She conveniently forgot to ask the men and women on the front line if indeed that were true, but rather she relied on the information and statistic provided to her by those in positions of interest of having her reflect whatever position the administration wants her to reflect — in this case, that’s a safe and secure border,” McCubbin said. “When you surround yourself with people who always say ‘yes,’ you will get the answer you are seeking.”
McCubben hasn’t yet gone to Department of Homeland Security leadership with his concerns about Obama’s new administrative DREAM Act program yet because he and the 17,000 agents he represents still have no clue what they’re supposed to do and what they’re not supposed to do. “I’m still waiting to get instructions from our own agency,” he said in response to a question from The Daily Caller. “Actually, our own agency was caught off guard when this came out.”
Crane said efforts to get a fair hearing with Napolitano, ICE Director John Morton or other administration officials have been futile.
“We’ve spent the last three-and-a-half years trying to work with this administration from Director Morton to Secretary Napolitano, who won’t meet with us,” Crane said. “We’ve actually been to the White House and tried to talk to those folks — and, basically, they don’t want to hear our concerns. They don’t want to work with us at all.”
“The only groups that they will work with are the NGOs, the immigrant advocacy groups,” Crane said. “Whether it’s the security protocols for our detention centers or our law enforcement practices out in the field, those are being driven by wish lists from immigrant advocacy groups with no input from law enforcement officers in the field.”
Grassley, the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said the policy is nothing more than a political stunt by Obama to deliver on a campaign promise he has thus far failed to fulfill.
“The president campaigns in 2008 that, in the first year, he’s going to have immigration issues solved,” Grassley said. “At this point, after three-and-a-half years, we have not seen any bill whatsoever. So, then as is a core pattern in this administration, you got to blame somebody else, so it [the administration] comes up with this statement: ‘if Congress won’t, I will.’”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/27/immig ... z222KnwrkG
ICE Union Chief: Agents Face Threat Of Pink Slips If They Enforce The Law
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2fTxn6Q ... e=youtu.be
Top Immigration Officials Describe Border Chaos Resulting From Admin's Amnesty Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb2_3R6o ... e=youtu.be
Immagrants dont have to prove they meet Dream act criteria to avoid Charges Ice union cheif says
:shock: :x
A top union official for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers said Thursday that President Barack Obama’s administration has ordered ICE agents to blindly — and without any evidence — believe illegal immigrants if they claim they qualify for Obama’s administrative DREAM Act.
Chris Crane, president of the National Immigration and Customs Enforcement Council, explained at a press conference on Capitol Hill Thursday afternoon how the new selective immigration law enforcement policy Obama announced during a White House Rose Garden speech in June is affecting the officers he represents.
“As we still wait on detailed guidance from the administration, it’s impossible to understand the full scope of the administration’s changes, but what we’ve seen so far concerns us greatly,” Crane, said. “As one example, prosecutorial discretion for DREAMers is solely based on the individual’s claims. Our orders are: If an alien says they went to high school, then let them go. If they say they have a GED, then let them go.”
“Officers have been told that there is no burden for the alien to prove anything,” he continued. “Even with the greatly relaxed policies, the alien is not required to prove that they meet any of the new criteria.”
ICE officers are often called in after local and state law enforcement officials arrest a person and find that he or she is an illegal immigrant. ICE officers also conduct their own investigations and detain suspected illegal immigrants independent of other law enforcement. Normally, if the immigrant is found to be in the country illegally, ICE would bring federal charges against him, possibly leading to deportation.
Under the new orders, however, illegals can escape federal charges simply by claiming — whether it’s the truth or not — that they meet the DREAM Act rule’s requirements issued by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Crane did not specify who has given his officers these new orders.
The new directive would contradict Homeland Security’s own words in announcing the policy, which said that “only those individuals who can prove through verifiable documentation that they meet these criteria will be eligible for deferred action.
Homeland Security announced in June that it will not go after illegals who came to the U.S. under the age of 16 and are not more than 30 years old; have lived in the U.S. for five straight years; are currently in school or have graduated high school, obtained a GED or been honorably discharged from the military; have not been convicted of a felony or significant misdemeanor and are not a threat to public safety.
“At this point, we don’t understand why DHS even has criteria at all as there is no requirement or burden to prove anything on the part of the alien,” Crane added. “We believe significant numbers of aliens who are not DREAMers are taking advantage of this practice to avoid arrest.”
“The lawlessness must end,” Alabama Republican Sen. Jeff Sessions, whose office organized the presser, said.
“They’ve handcuffed and muffled those charged with protecting the public safety and the integrity of our borders,” Sessions said. “Such action has not only weakened our security but our democracy. All Americans, immigrant and native born, will have a better future if our nation remains unique in the world for its special reverence for the rule of law and fairness in our immigration system.”
George McCubbin, the president of the AFL-CIO-backed National Border Patrol Council, said Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano’s claim that the border is more secure than ever are downright untrue.
“She conveniently forgot to ask the men and women on the front line if indeed that were true, but rather she relied on the information and statistic provided to her by those in positions of interest of having her reflect whatever position the administration wants her to reflect — in this case, that’s a safe and secure border,” McCubbin said. “When you surround yourself with people who always say ‘yes,’ you will get the answer you are seeking.”
McCubben hasn’t yet gone to Department of Homeland Security leadership with his concerns about Obama’s new administrative DREAM Act program yet because he and the 17,000 agents he represents still have no clue what they’re supposed to do and what they’re not supposed to do. “I’m still waiting to get instructions from our own agency,” he said in response to a question from The Daily Caller. “Actually, our own agency was caught off guard when this came out.”
Crane said efforts to get a fair hearing with Napolitano, ICE Director John Morton or other administration officials have been futile.
“We’ve spent the last three-and-a-half years trying to work with this administration from Director Morton to Secretary Napolitano, who won’t meet with us,” Crane said. “We’ve actually been to the White House and tried to talk to those folks — and, basically, they don’t want to hear our concerns. They don’t want to work with us at all.”
“The only groups that they will work with are the NGOs, the immigrant advocacy groups,” Crane said. “Whether it’s the security protocols for our detention centers or our law enforcement practices out in the field, those are being driven by wish lists from immigrant advocacy groups with no input from law enforcement officers in the field.”
Grassley, the ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said the policy is nothing more than a political stunt by Obama to deliver on a campaign promise he has thus far failed to fulfill.
“The president campaigns in 2008 that, in the first year, he’s going to have immigration issues solved,” Grassley said. “At this point, after three-and-a-half years, we have not seen any bill whatsoever. So, then as is a core pattern in this administration, you got to blame somebody else, so it [the administration] comes up with this statement: ‘if Congress won’t, I will.’”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/27/immig ... z222KnwrkG
ICE Union Chief: Agents Face Threat Of Pink Slips If They Enforce The Law
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2fTxn6Q ... e=youtu.be
Top Immigration Officials Describe Border Chaos Resulting From Admin's Amnesty Policy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb2_3R6o ... e=youtu.be
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Close the Fucking Border and enforce the federal Law. I swear some of you are so freaking un believable.. Here we have a violont illegal who assaults another family member and a federal agent,and just bcos he fucking graduated high school he gets let go. :x are you kidding me ? WTF is wrong with you people. Don't go cryin to the police when someone you care deeply about is harmed by someone who falls under the Dream Act. Unreal.. :(
that will fix it... :fp:
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Oh really ? Get a life dude. People like you are part of the Problem this country faces. :wtf:
I got my ccp.. And I will protect my family at any cost
see people like you gimmie dont live in the real world.. You live in some fantasy world.. But way to dodge the issue. Did you even watch the youtube videos ? You know Im not even going to waste my time on your mindless drivel.
im sorry maybe I misunderstood you.. Which administration are you referring to ?
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hahaha ... i don't think americans really know what leftist utopia is ... i can guarantee you that it definitely doesn't look like the US ... haha
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I just look at it like this - if I go to court to claim I'm due compensation or retribution of some sort, I have to prove my case, provide evidence. This isn't so different to me.
Or is it? Am I missing something?
wth are you even talking about ? Obviously you don't even have the slightest idea what this thread is even about. .. So your car was stolen.. Should the persons responsible be areested and proscicuted or should they be let go ? See my guess is you didn't even take the time to read the article. You think this is some anti immagrant thread which it's not.
Do you even know who César Chávez’ was and what the united farm workers stood for ? They were against ILLEGAL IMMAGRATION. not only did he speak out against the Mexican invasion before Congress, not only did United Farm Workers members monitor the United States-Mexico border à la the Minutemen, but Chavez even sicced la migra on the undocumented from time to time. So do yourself a favor and educate your self..
Oh and by the Way I built that.. :P
No thanks. Reading endless blog posts from conservative hacks, who can't get jobs within accredited news organizations, isn't my thing.
Accredited news agencies ? Like what MSNBC,CNN, RUSSIA TODAY ?
No the only hack here is you Brynzie, what no jewis hate sites to visit.. Seee you din't even watch the videos. So you are the one that looks like a damn fool.
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So true! I did pick crops for one summer and it was the hardest work I've ever done. (Well, ok, maybe as hard as teaching middle school kids!) Harder than unloading truck loads of books in a college bookstore, harder than building a large house foundation one summer, harder even than washing Boeing 747's (I had to do this with a wax/cleaner by hand with mops!) which was another summer job. That's we have other people do the work. Few Americans will do this kind of work- it wrecks your body.
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Here is a link to the actual preference chart by employment which is not officially from the US govt but it does summarize it nicely.
http://immigrationado.com/work/ebi/
Just in case, you don't think that this is accurate here is a link to the full US govt. report which states the same thing (this is a PDF file that you'll have to download)
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CFwQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffpc.state.gov%2Fdocuments%2Forganization%2F31352.pdf&ei=_XsWUKa2N4m88ATf6YCgAw&usg=AFQjCNGdcBJd67nNoL2A4DMF6AWv8wovDQ&sig2=oGLyiOb2Flgb5o8A6OSrzQ
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
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tell the American people there is criteria to meet to stay in the country
making it sound like good common sense to allow them to stay.
They were raised here and are trying to be a productive part of our American society...
but then not require any proof to meet the criteria.
Do I got that right? maybe not :?
but if so that is so wrong...
tell me this was not a ploy just for votes?
This is awesome!!!
Can I get a list somewhere of the counties, races, religions, etc that it's ok to make these kinds of comments about on this board because it's hard to keep track what is exceptable and what is just being a dumbass. Thanks Mods!!!!!
Tucker Carlson? Really?
While you're at it, can someone clean up the grammar and spelling in the thread, too?
shut it down please before op goes all michael 'falling down' douglas on gimme. :corn:
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Wow. :fp:
if i may ask... how does an illegal alien join the armed forces in order to be honourably discharged when the time comes???
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