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I have a friend who prefers to trade his McFarlane mint condition bought from ebay from Maxx242 sale.
Here are a few things he is looking for. He is also considering selling it for his purchase price of $265 (plus shipping.. **I think, Ill have to verify the shipping included part**)
Obviously some items are valued more one way or another. This is why Im listing for him. He asked me if I can work out a deal from his wish list and I said I would. Knowing him, Im sure this list will grow so if you have some thing you'd like to trade send me a PM. Ill pass info along and try and make every one happy. Thanks guys
Here's what he's looking for.
World Peace ... (forgot to add this one, Thx Dave 
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PJ20 Billboard print
Binaural
Riot Act
Rear view Mirror
Lost Dogs
Yield
LO2L
98 Yield Virgin Mega store POSTER
2004 Show box Klausen AP
2010 Bridge School AP S/N
2010 MSG A/P
2011 PJ20 Klausen Variant/ or regular AP
2011 PJ20 Ames AP/ Or Variant
2012 Pearl Jam Belgium 12 Stout / Soto
Here are a few things he is looking for. He is also considering selling it for his purchase price of $265 (plus shipping.. **I think, Ill have to verify the shipping included part**)
Obviously some items are valued more one way or another. This is why Im listing for him. He asked me if I can work out a deal from his wish list and I said I would. Knowing him, Im sure this list will grow so if you have some thing you'd like to trade send me a PM. Ill pass info along and try and make every one happy. Thanks guys
Here's what he's looking for.
World Peace
... (forgot to add this one, Thx Dave )PJ20 Billboard print
Binaural
Riot Act
Rear view Mirror
Lost Dogs
Yield
LO2L
98 Yield Virgin Mega store POSTER
2004 Show box Klausen AP
2010 Bridge School AP S/N
2010 MSG A/P
2011 PJ20 Klausen Variant/ or regular AP
2011 PJ20 Ames AP/ Or Variant
2012 Pearl Jam Belgium 12 Stout / Soto
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Tell me about it. Todd sold all the odd numbers and maxx got even. It amazes me on how people can take care of posters in this way. Well dont amaze me that much considering Ive seen the people who most likely did the rolling.
They dont care about no one but themselves. Funny thing is I DID warn them to be careful and to wear white gloves. I told them the way Pearl Jam fans love the posters and expect them mint. I dont think they took me seriously.
Every one in the 10 club should ban togeather and send emails just saying how horrible they handled this opportunity.
Sorry Dave. :(
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Please some one just buy this. I think I made a mistake offering to act as a mediator for this poster :(
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Peddle that thing Don!
I should of known I was in trouble when the guy emailed me his want list. :shock: I only listed 1/4 of the list
you shouldve known you were in trouble when a guy drops 265+shipping on ebay and has buyers remorse a few days later and wants to flip it or trade it for something better.
most of the prints you listed for him, most people probably wouldn't do 1-for-1 (with the exception of the stout/soto). may have made your life easier if you listed the other 3/4 of the list (unless you posted only the ones you thought you could make a deal for him...if thats the case, the other 3/4 of the list must be insane wants
and i'll never understand why so many people here sell/trade things for other people. why cant they just post themselves? wouldnt it be easier instead of going through a middle man?
I understand what ur saying. I told him some of the things hes looking for may need some cash added with the spawn poster. I wouldnt say hes flipping. He paid 265 & and wants to trade it.
The reason I agreed to is hes not a member. The other items are smaller things like Shirts,hats and the odds of making a deal in that aspect would be a head ache.
I think its smart to ask some one who has more knowlage in a subject & has more credit than have his 1st.post be trading this.
You guys would eat him alive
those smaller things like hats/shirt would actually be perfect to add on the deal with the stout. you probably got alot of offers from people wanting to trade the stout straightup...an extra shirt/hat etc may be needed to even out the deal a little more...
if your friend wanted those other prints, he probably couldve found 'em on ebay or EB. no reason to spend 265+shipping on the spawn just to trade it when he probably couldve easily dropped 3 bills to get the bridge AP, or DK AP, or even the showbox AP. feel like a price drop will happen with the this print as soon as 10c releases the 1st editions, so may not have been a great investment for him...
Sorry I tried to amend this thread using my phone. guess it didnt take. But I had added that the reason he is trying to trade the poster is because (this is what he told me) He got caught up in the hype and bought it off ebay thinking he would buy it before it reached $300. He got the poster and was not impressed with it. He also told me it was way to big and would never frame it. I then told him the Soto/Stout poster is just as big and he then told me to cross that poster off the list.
I dont want to feel like I have to defend myself helping another 10 club member out. If this deal offends you I'll take it down and figure some thing else out.
This poster cost $125 all the other posters cost less. So in a way if you bought the poster from the artist you are making out. You cant talk about him flipping the poster if he is just looking for a trade. I guess its all a personal thing the way you interpret flipping.
I cant see this poster ever dropping lower than $260. I mean there are most likely less than 150 mint singed & numbered copies. Once about 100 of them are framed that will leave 50 or less to be traded or sold in the future. So Im guessing this is a great print to hold onto for future trades. Just my opinion.
its good u wanmt to help a friend
its my comment in general...just a thought here..
buy a poster 30$ at a show sale it next day here 250$ all says is a flipper
buy a poster 30$ at a show trade it next day here with 250$ item at the market most says is not..cos its a trade and someone else its ok with the trade,so all ok..no flipping,let people do what they want..
well..its both the same flipping for me...cos you want to make a profit in both cases..
1st money,2nd trade your 30$ for an item was already had a high value at the market..
the only thing i liked to Sawyer is that he had the balls not to hide he is a flipper under the trade umbrella(called strategy as he used to say)
i almost lost all hope that we can be better than ebay here...
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You kinda lost me with your trading it for a higher value thought. Both posters being traded for cost $30. So whats the big deal.
I know the values of the other posters. Some may have a 2nd dary value higher than the McFarlane poster and I made him aware he may have to dish out some money.
This was not a $30 poster it was originally a $125 poster that he bought for $265. So the poster has been flipped already and hes just asking for the value he paid. Just as every one else who thinks their poster is worth more than the money they paid for it.
I realy need the email to the commision that designates when the time period is ok to flip/trade a poster. Im so glad I am doing this for him because like I said if a member with 1 post put it up you guys would make it miserable.
Everything is flipped from your house to a package of pens. People will always make a profit. Why dont we bash the people who pay the over inflated prices. Well if they were over inflated prices why do people pay :?
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my opinion as i said already has nothing to do with your friend poster
im not talking about ..the McFarlane poster
.where bought it,how much bought it and etc..
i dont post for you to explain me this trade,sale,this poster,A/P version etc..
as u saw i quote only this part :
2 things..easy to understand..
1.i buy a 30 $ poster at a show...next day i sell it 250$..profit aka fliiping
2..i buy a 30 $ poster at a show next day i put it for trade for riot act vinyl ,a 10 years old album,in the market goes 200$.he bought the poster for do a trade with something already more expensive in the market.
.for me is the same flipping...
thats my opinion about flipping...
people buy flipping prices ,people take flipping offers for trades...its there choice..
that doesnt change the fact what flipper did...
i hope u understand that i didnt post about helping a friend or another member.
..or for this item.
trust me,i know exactly what helping another member means...
i post my opinion about your post that is personal the way people see flipping....
well this is my personal opinion about whatr flipping means..
good luck to your friend..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Complete grey area...... Totally open to interpretation - and at the end of the day, a trend that is solely governed by the buyer and the demand for an item.
Some items have an instant value spike upon release, others take many years to build up the demand and value - it is what it is.
What is so different from someone buying a $100 poster and turning right around and selling it for $300 a day after the seller bought it, versus someone buying a Benny upon release for $35-$45 and then a few years later selling it to me for $1000 or more????????????????
200% poster profit vs. 2000% Benny profit......... Posters are usually limited to 50-300 A/P's - there were 2000 Bennys.
I want it, I'm the idiot paying the ridiculously inflated price, and therefore I am the one dictating market value and keeping prices high. God, I AM stupid!!! :fp:
Shouldn't that "great PJ fan and board/community member" who paid less than $50 originally for a Benny, cut me a great deal in the spirit of PJ and all that is wholesome and good :? ??? NEVER GONNA HAPPEN!!!!
Who can say that there weren't a few savvy collectors 8 years ago who bought 2 or 3 and kept them sealed thinking "In 5-10 years I'm gonna make a killing on this!" I'm sure there were 1 or 2....... Kinda like playing the penny stocks :corn: It happens EVERY day.
The Benny is just an example. If I bought one upon release then I would probably cut a friend a "better" deal than market value on the boards, but you have to admit that getting top dollar for your item on those auction sites is pretty tempting during these tough economic times, whether it's an 8 year old vinyl set or a 24hr old poster.... Luckily MOST vendors limit their items to 1 per customer.
It's usually the less computer savvy people like myself, who have an inferior computer with a shitty internet connection who miss out on the sales, and then get all ass-hurt and start complaining about flippers.....
Doesn't really matter if someone is selling or trading, cost value for cost value rarely, if ever, happens in a trade, and market value dictates how much cash or equivalent good change hands.
People will always agree to disagree.
Buy it or don't, but we waste a LOT of oxygen unnecessarily on "flipping" debates.
I really wish that the word "Flipper" still took us back to that ridiculously smart and intuitive dolphin that kept saving the goofy red-headed kid's dumb ass......... but alas now, it's all about gain in one way or another.
I do realize that the OP had nothing to do with flipping, but yet again it somehow managed to stick it's ugly little head in somewhere that it need not be.
Luckily, Don's credibility is not at stake here because we all know that he's a great (and extremely generous) person and would do anything for any of us, so good luck with moving the poster brother! I'd do exactly the same thing for a friend!
Cheers!
IMHO as always.
a lot of unnecessary comments in this thread. blah...
You kinda lost me with your trading it for a higher value thought. Both posters being traded for cost $30. So whats the big deal.
I know the values of the other posters. Some may have a 2nd dary value higher than the McFarlane poster and I made him aware he may have to dish out some money.
This was not a $30 poster it was originally a $125 poster that he bought for $265. So the poster has been flipped already and hes just asking for the value he paid. Just as every one else who thinks their poster is worth more than the money they paid for it.
I realy need the email to the commision that designates when the time period is ok to flip/trade a poster. Im so glad I am doing this for him because like I said if a member with 1 post put it up you guys would make it miserable.
Everything is flipped from your house to a package of pens. People will always make a profit. Why dont we bash the people who pay the over inflated prices. Well if they were over inflated prices why do people pay :?[/quote]
im not talking about this poster...as i already said..
my opinion as i said already has nothing to do with your friend poster
im not talking about ..the McFarlane poster
.where bought it,how much bought it and etc..
i dont post for you to explain me this trade,sale,this poster,A/P version etc..
as u saw i quote only this part :
2 things..easy to understand..
1.i buy a 30 $ poster at a show...next day i sell it 250$..profit aka fliiping
2..i buy a 30 $ poster at a show next day i put it for trade for riot act vinyl ,a 10 years old album,in the market goes 200$.he bought the poster for do a trade with something already more expensive in the market.
.for me is the same flipping...
thats my opinion about flipping...
people buy flipping prices ,people take flipping offers for trades...its there choice..
that doesnt change the fact what flipper did...
i hope u understand that i didnt post about helping a friend or another member.
..or for this item.
trust me,i know exactly what helping another member means...
i post my opinion about your post that is personal the way people see flipping....
well this is my personal opinion about whatr flipping means..
good luck to your friend..[/quote]
I hear you. I just didnt quiet get what the point was you were making.
Im just trying to help some one obtain a item that he didnt have. I know how it works here and If I thought my buddy was out of line I would tell him. People like him should not have to worry about posting just because hes afraid to be black balled for having some thing that is popular and people (like himself) who are willing to pay more or trade a little more to obtain some thing they want.
Like I said it all comes down to what some one feels comfortable in making a deal. What you see as flipping I see as a great opertunity to get what he wants.
Im done with this thread. A deal has been struck. :fp:
Im glad we can debate on here with out getting immature
Thanks guys. Till next time. In T minus 5 hrs
Thanks its all good. I understand where evryone is comming from. People who get made at flippers are the people who missed out on the item to begin with.
I get mad at flippers all the time. But I care less when its a item I dont care about
As for you.........WOW I didnt know you knew all those words
Thanks for the kind words. Put them on my tab
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good you help your friend,and for the record,i made the comment for an item i dont care about cos i bought 2 at the show
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“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Thats what he was going to do since he is not a paying member. Plus they are now asking $300-$400 for this poster on ebay :shock:
It was my bright idea that he let me try and help a 10 club member that dont have a poster and is looking to trade some thing for one instead of forking out $250 +
Man last time I do any thing for some one