If Drugs were legalized tomorrow what would happen?
musicismylife78
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Its an interesting question. What do you think would happen? I think for the first couple days maybe it would be wild around the country, but ultimately i think everything would calm down. Those who wanted drugs would have access to them, like before. The amount of people who would use drugs, because their brother or dad or mom now could legally obtain the drugs, I dont think we'd see much of a rise in users. Plus the people who smoke or use cocaine at a party, in this hypothetical scenerio, could i guess indulge more openly, but more than likely they would have been using at the party reguardless.
Ultimately, I think drug legalization is a sensible thing to do. Tobacco and alcohol are dangerous drugs and both are legal. The amount of people who die directly from cigarettes or indirectly via second hand smoke, and the amount of people who die either via drinking too much and dying, or drinking and driving, or getting hit by a drunk driver, i would assume those numbers are way higher than those who die from any of the major drugs.
Additionally, the drug war is a failure. its racist and classist. And has solved nothing. The laws themselves are arcane and outdated and make little to no sense. The fact that the majority of prisoners in this country are of color, and are incarerated for nonviolent drug offences, is insane and makes no sense.
In my mind legalization makes a great deal of sense.
Ultimately, I think drug legalization is a sensible thing to do. Tobacco and alcohol are dangerous drugs and both are legal. The amount of people who die directly from cigarettes or indirectly via second hand smoke, and the amount of people who die either via drinking too much and dying, or drinking and driving, or getting hit by a drunk driver, i would assume those numbers are way higher than those who die from any of the major drugs.
Additionally, the drug war is a failure. its racist and classist. And has solved nothing. The laws themselves are arcane and outdated and make little to no sense. The fact that the majority of prisoners in this country are of color, and are incarerated for nonviolent drug offences, is insane and makes no sense.
In my mind legalization makes a great deal of sense.
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dont even know if i agree on that point. Yes, no doubt, there would be people using and dealing who hadnt previous because they could do so freely and without repercussions. But i dont think youd see a major uptick in non traditional dealers. Meaning, i think generally, those people who are dealers currently, right now, are for the most part the same people who would be dealers if drugs were legalized. sure a small uptick would occur, but i dont think you'd see a mass amount of grandmothers, or soccer moms dealing cocaine or anything like that. The rise wouldnt be much at all. I think the dealers would generally be the same. As i said, i think the first couple days, or maybe the first week or two, of legalization would be kind of wild. I could see people going to extremes, but i think it would settle down, and that it would become just a normal part of society
Another interesting idea i think, would be the hard drug users wouldnt be considered criminals anymore. they wouldnt have to live this criminal life, this black market dangerous life. Its possible, in my view, that could even lessen the death rate of drug users. If you were using meth, you live this outsider high risk life style if you use right now. but if it was legal, its possible some of the allure would be gone, and that people would use it like they use alcohol or tobacco.
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And then the old drug dealers will come back into business and offer it for $5, then the government has to go back into the drug war to get rid of the people undercutting them............
Who cares, just get stoned
couldn't disagree more...people said the same thing about alcohol...there are some that deal illegally in it, but for the most part, it is just tradition now...
If drugs were legalized tomorrow, I would head down to the local farmers market very quickly
My life wouldn't change one way or another, I don't do them now, wouldn't do them tomorrow...my drug of choice is legal, and thank god for that...I don't know what I would do in the summer without a gimlet...
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I think part of why drugs are so dangerous, is the fact they are illegal, and cause the user and dealer, to go to such extreme measures to conceal it, during manufacture, dealing, and using. Additionally, i think a huge part of why they are so dangerous, is the user and dealer are considered criminals, again, causing major problems. So they have to live this sort of outlaw existence.
Fact of the matter is, if you are a user or dealer, you are going to do it and or sell it, whether its legal or not.
i just think its stupid and makes no sense to be locking people up in such massive numbers, building more prisons to house people for nonviolent drug offenses. The laws on the books make no sense as is, the famous disparity in penalty for possession of crack being way more heavy, than the possession of cocaine. that makes no sense.
look at Breaking Bad. Alot of the problems walter and everyone else face, revolve around him having to hide what he's doing and then deal with creepy dealers and whatnot. Fring is a result of the lifestyle of it all. Who mr white has turned into over these 4 seasons is a result of the lifestyle. The show wouldnt work if drugs were legal, because in many ways that lifestyle wouldnt be as wild as whats happened in the show. The whole premise of the show essentially is that he went bad, to provide money for his family if he was to die. And prices are that high, because its illegal.
The roads would be filled with millions of impaired drivers who would drive high only because drugs are legal.
Occasional users would become hopeless addicts instantly, just because they could.
Crime rates would skyrocket as addicts increased their use because of easier access, and turned to crime to support their habit.
Mass murderers would become legit businessmen overnight.
dogs would then begin living with cats...basically mass hysteria
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of course. no doubt this is a tv show. But i also think part of why it is such a great show, along with other great shows of our time the wire, and the sopranos, is the cast and crew create a realistic show. I think the show is extremely realistic. The meth lab at Frings place, was and is realistic, evidently Vince consulted with the DEA among others to make it as real as possible, and crew suggested you really could make meth in that setup.
My point about the show is that, a major part of the show is Mr Whites dealings with beyond insane creepy characters who inhabit the black market and drug world. I think that part is very realistic. And i think those indidviduals are a product of the fact that drugs are illegal. Put it this way, I dont think if drugs were legal, youd have the amount of murder, and death and mayhem and outrageous behavior that you have now. Sure there would be some crazy folks. its plain and simple a lifestyle. The drug prices, the outsider stance drug users and dealers have to take etc... The illegal nature of the drug trade allows these characters to flourish and take route. Drug deals gone bad, people breaking into homes to get money or items to sell and get money for drugs, high risk behavior, its all sort of tied into the fact that drugs are illegal and thus neccesitate a certain stance by people
For me, its just the hypocrisy. Sure meth has major consequences, But so does alcohol and tobacco. talk to some family who lost their family as a result of being hit by a drunk driver if they feel alcohol is destructive. We all grew up with those images of people with holes in their necks, with odd voices as a result of smoking. The amount of people who have died from lung cancer, or from liver disease from drinking, is astronomical. Way more than the amount of people who die from meth or any other drug combined.
thats my main beef. Either all drugs are bad, including tobacco and alcohol and thus should be outlawed completely. Or some drugs are helpful to people ie, codeine, pot, those who claim wine is beneficial, etc... and thus should be legalized. You cant have it both ways. Saying drug use is awful, while allowing cancer patients to ease their pain by smoking pot, or allowing people to freely drink to death at the local bar. Its blatant hypocrisy.
so i guess we are in agreement. I got the feeling you were suggesting alcohol and tobacco use was somehow lesser of a problem than meth use. that the problems associated with those are lesser than meth. I vehemently disagree. To me, its silly to categorize whats worse than another. Im an absolutist myself. Either ban any and all drugs, or legalize them all.
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All other drugs should remain criminalized, but users shouldn't be put in jail.
Opium (ergo, heroin) and Cocaine both "grown in the ground"
Wassup, yo ?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
why is natural more important to legalise than chemical? I would have though in terms of controlling the substance and making drug problems a medical issue rather than a legal one it would be the other way around. It is the chemical drugs that can be full of all sorts of scary shit which wouldn't be in them if they were legal and controlled substances
want rigorous smoking bans
dare they might breathe a bit of second smoke while walking down the street.
Yet the high pup on legal bathsalts welding a knife is okay in their book.
When people use drugs they make victims from their use everyday
everywhere whether legal or not. Victims of the use victims of the abuse.
I wonder if cigarettes would have been illegal how many would not be dying
that horrible, slow, painful death as we speak. If a different message had been sent
to our society so many generations ago.
Dropping like flies they are the smoking generation.
Unable to breathe, missing their grandchildren's lives, them missing
their grandparents. Parents gone too soon to the cancer stick.
Oh but that's ok that was their choice ... bet not for most gasping their last breath.
Yet this argument those who want all drugs legal use... cigs are legal
alcohol is legal...
Would we have a better world if they weren't?
All the families mourning their innocent dead due to DUI's,
all the innocent families broken due to alcoholism.
Having cigs and alcohol legal changed many lives in the last century,
they became a norm for social behavior
for much of society as will legalizing all drugs.
They are a perfect example of the use and abuse that will take place
just because they are legal.
A bit late to make cigs and alcohol illegal and we see what that has done to our society.
This is an important time, a turning point perhaps in the human race
where healthy may finally become the norm to work towards.
Do we want to send a message like
hey meth is great ... it's legal try it?
Cocaine, cool man, have some fun don't worry about addiction
that only happens to the other guy.
Shoot up now ...enjoy! Life sucks make it go away!
The message to send is don't do every drug known to man and then make some more
Don't take 20 prescriptions your doctor has prescribed for you so you can live 5 years longer
Don't run to the doc with every imagined symptom for a pill :wtf:
The answer is not in a pill nor getting fucked up it's caring about others
outside our own bodies
and yes being an example for all our children, they are our best hope.
or fatty foods
a new message.
The best thing I thought I did for my kids was no fast food growing up, as my Mom did for us.
The industry has really taken over for the children of today though.
Messages from society are all important to behavior.
A drink to top off dinner.... or maybe on special occasion getting drunk (safely).
Having a cigarette every once in awhile, or a cigar.
Smoking a joint in the comfort of your own home to take the steam off of a productive, busy week.
Eating a bad meal once in awhile (not sausage McMuffins every morning and rotating fast food joints each lunch break).
But many people cant do this.
But what role should the government play in banning/regulating these things before it is considered 'too much'. You see the 'right' of this country freaking out when they try to eliminate/limit trans fats/soda sizes... but the banning of pot is considered "just".
Im not sure there is a correct or easy answer. I think it would be best suited state to state, and perhaps passed down by County.