Breaking Bad Season 5 **Contains Spoilers**

Cliffy6745

Bronx Bombers wrote:

Possible foreshadowing of Walts end

Sheeeeeeeeeet. Yeah, Walt is clearly dead. No way around it. Hoping he is coming back to save his family/Jesse.

The timing is strange with him having a full head of hair and beard and all. What pulls him back that far in the future?

Indifference71

Holy fuck. Like someone said earlier in the thread, I totally thought either Skylar or Walter Jr. was going to get stabbed accidentally when Walt and Skylar were wrestling each other on the ground. What an episode. I couldn't fall asleep until after midnight after watching that.

afroannnie

Another amazing episode....holy shit... :shock: :shock:

BinauralJam

i only got to watch the first half last night, my wife got so pissed after they killed hank she threw the controller and stormed off into the bed room I've been married long enough to know to follow her and put on some Big Bang Theory, she swears she's not watching the last two episodes, and i thought i was into it? :crazy: :crazy:

Bronx Bombers

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Bronx Bombers wrote:

Possible foreshadowing of Walts end

Sheeeeeeeeeet. Yeah, Walt is clearly dead. No way around it. Hoping he is coming back to save his family/Jesse.

The timing is strange with him having a full head of hair and beard and all. What pulls him back that far in the future?

He's dying and doesn't have much time left remember he was coughing in the bathroom when he bought the gun. If the timeline is 8 months I think it's a stretch to assume Jesse is still alive and even if he is after everything that went down I don't see him coming back just to save him. I think he comes back to take revenge after jacks crew takes out his family on Lydia's request. I think the line everyone dies in this movie when he was watching scarface with jr says all you need to know about how this ends.

Cliffy6745

Bronx Bombers wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Bronx Bombers wrote:

Possible foreshadowing of Walts end

Sheeeeeeeeeet. Yeah, Walt is clearly dead. No way around it. Hoping he is coming back to save his family/Jesse.

The timing is strange with him having a full head of hair and beard and all. What pulls him back that far in the future?

He's dying and doesn't have much time left remember he was coughing in the bathroom when he bought the gun. If the timeline is 8 months I think it's a stretch to assume Jesse is still alive and even if he is after everything that went down I don't see him coming back just to save him. I think he comes back to take revenge after jacks crew takes out his family on Lydia's request. I think the line everyone dies in this movie when he was watching scarface with jr says all you need to know about how this ends.

Good points. Yeah, that Scarface quote is looming pretty big.

JK_Livin

Bronx Bombers wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Bronx Bombers wrote:

Possible foreshadowing of Walts end

Sheeeeeeeeeet. Yeah, Walt is clearly dead. No way around it. Hoping he is coming back to save his family/Jesse.

The timing is strange with him having a full head of hair and beard and all. What pulls him back that far in the future?

He's dying and doesn't have much time left remember he was coughing in the bathroom when he bought the gun. If the timeline is 8 months I think it's a stretch to assume Jesse is still alive and even if he is after everything that went down I don't see him coming back just to save him. I think he comes back to take revenge after jacks crew takes out his family on Lydia's request. I think the line everyone dies in this movie when he was watching scarface with jr says all you need to know about how this ends.

Where is the 8 months coming from? I thought it was less than that. How fast does hair grow?

DiRtyFranK38

Who do we think the risin is for? On that Talking Bad show after, Bill Hader suggested he thinks it is for Lydia for reasons yet to be seen because the show has always made a focus on her tea, whether it be the mug, her drinking it, or how she likes it.

Indifference71

Bronx Bombers wrote:

He's dying and doesn't have much time left remember he was coughing in the bathroom when he bought the gun. If the timeline is 8 months I think it's a stretch to assume Jesse is still alive and even if he is after everything that went down I don't see him coming back just to save him. I think he comes back to take revenge after jacks crew takes out his family on Lydia's request. I think the line everyone dies in this movie when he was watching scarface with jr says all you need to know about how this ends.

Good points. It is hard to see anything bringing Walt back to Abq at this point. But his family getting killed is definitely something that would bring him back. I can't even imagine what is going to happen in these next 2 episodes. And I can't fucking wait!!

Bronx Bombers

JK here's the 8 month timeline

In Season 5 Episode 4 Walt celebrates his 51st birthday and in the season 5 premiere he arranges the bacon for his 52nd the timeline from last nights episode until the scence at Denny's would be roughly about 8 months from everything I've read. The only thing we know is Walt goes to NH and his family has moved out or has been killed and he has been publically outed as Heisenberg. I assume they will fill in the gaps in the next episode before the finale.

Bronx Bombers

Indifference71 wrote:

Bronx Bombers wrote:

He's dying and doesn't have much time left remember he was coughing in the bathroom when he bought the gun. If the timeline is 8 months I think it's a stretch to assume Jesse is still alive and even if he is after everything that went down I don't see him coming back just to save him. I think he comes back to take revenge after jacks crew takes out his family on Lydia's request. I think the line everyone dies in this movie when he was watching scarface with jr says all you need to know about how this ends.

Good points. It is hard to see anything bringing Walt back to Abq at this point. But his family getting killed is definitely something that would bring him back. I can't even imagine what is going to happen in these next 2 episodes. And I can't fucking wait!!

I can live with everyone dying but I hope they don't kill the baby, that would be a tough one to swallow.

letsongsprotest

So, Jack and his crew are going to want to get the confession tape that Hank and Jesse made. Assuming that Jesse told them were it was (Hank's house) when he was getting it beaten out of him, I'd imagine Marie might not make it next week.

I'm wondering what causes them to destroy Walt's house though?

Killing Walt's family would definitely bring him out of hiding, but I think that the combination of them killing Hank (further destroying his family) and that they have most of his money, will bring him back. Discovering that Jesse is held captive probably isn't his motivation to have that big gun. And I agree with Hader that Lydia is getting the ricin.


All of that being said, last nights episode was brilliant, unbelievable, awful, and devastating.

Walt Jr and Holly scenes were tough to watch. As well as when Jesse was dragged out from underneath the car and looking at Walt like he was saying please don't do this.
And the numerous moments in the show when Walt was Walter White and not Heisenberg. Although those didn't last too long.
-the look he gave Jesse just before he told him about Jane
-when he yelled "we're a family" after the scuffle with Skylar
-pleading with Hank before he was shot and his break down after
-holding Holly in the bathroom when she said mama
-losing it on the phone as Walt while Heisenberg spoke to Skylar

All of these are "what have I done" moments, though most are immediately followed by snapping back into Heisenberg mode

Bronx Bombers

How do we know the gang destroyed the house it could've been a bunch of kids. Great point about the disk I think that's got to be the trigger for them to go after Walts family.

dimitrispearljam

i still have a feeling,its a plan..and skyler is in..

twisted thoughts

What was the point of Walt telling Jesse about watching Jane die?
He knew at that point they were going to let Jesse live for a little while at least, so they could get the info they wanted out of him... so what exactly was the point of Walt's confession to Jesse? Just in case they don't kill Jesse, Walt can feel he got some sort of revenge against him, for having let Jesse know of that?

The part with Holly in the car, and Walt outside... Was he playing with a match or lighter? Man I thought he was gonna torch the car w/ Holly in it before they showed her inside. I'd have to hate Walt if he did that, tho its pretty damn hard to like him still after last night's episode. Im pretty sure if they killed Jesse last night that way I would have started hating Walt. I thought they were gonna do it. I can't believe they spared him, and now I'm not sure whats worse. Watching Jesse die or watching Jesse be tortured. Some seriously good acting on Aaron Paul's part last night.

Cliffy6745

twisted thoughts wrote:

What was the point of Walt telling Jesse about watching Jane die?
He knew at that point they were going to let Jesse live for a little while at least, so they could get the info they wanted out of him... so what exactly was the point of Walt's confession to Jesse? Just in case they don't kill Jesse, Walt can feel he got some sort of revenge against him, for having let Jesse know of that?

He wants Jesse to suffer. He blames him for Hank getting killed.

Cliffy6745

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i still have a feeling,its a plan..and skyler is in..

I'm gonna go the opposite way. I think Skylar is out. Walt may save her or something along those lines and she may end up with some money (although I think she would have a hard time keeping it), but their relationship is over, I think.

Dr. Delight

It's funny that Todd saved Jessies life or he would have been shot.

Now they are using Jessie to help solidify their cooking product.

Question, why is everyone thinking Walt would use the ricin on Lydia? Why would he want her dead?

mca47

Cliffy6745 wrote:

dimitrispearljam wrote:

i still have a feeling,its a plan..and skyler is in..

I'm gonna go the opposite way. I think Skylar is out. Walt may save her or something along those lines and she may end up with some money (although I think she would have a hard time keeping it), but their relationship is over, I think.

Yeah, she's definitely "out". I do think she knew what Walt was doing when on the phone with the cops listening in. Getting her off the hook so they wouldn't look into her, the business, etc.


I do wonder if Walt taking Holly was just to show...further proof of his display to the police that he's unstable and all events were his doing or if in fact he changed his mind when Holly said "mama" and realized there was no point in keeping her and putting her life in jeopardy.

JK_Livin

Bronx Bombers wrote:

How do we know the gang destroyed the house it could've been a bunch of kids. Great point about the disk I think that's got to be the trigger for them to go after Walts family.

It looks more abandoned that destroyed.