Dissapointing setlists so far

FeelLikeAStranger

Great shows but...Anybody else dissapointed? Too much "Greatest Hits" repeats nearly every show, not enough diversity. Im not neccessarily looking for rarities, as Im looking for the boys to play different setlists every night, with different songs spanning their entire career. I have no problem with them doing what they always do with a new album--playing the new ones alot, but the other songs that have been filling setlists have been way too repetitive. Lets see some original setlists! I thought Detroit was on the right track, but the boys rehearsed for 6 weeks this time around, and considering how much they tried to vary the sets in 03, I so far have been dissapointed.

magikev

Here's the deal . . . people are gonna say "Well, they've played Rats, Satan's Bed, Garden, ..." I think that's great, but I also think there is some diversity missing. But then again, they have to play about 8 songs from their new album each show (which I love by the way), so that takes away from some of it. If you look at past set lists, those 8 songs that currently stay the same (9 counting evenflow) really make it hard to make some of the changes that hardcore fans want. But look at the sit down section of the Grand Rapids show. Look at Detroit. Look at Albany. Look at Toronto 2. Some of the same songs? Yes. Kick ass? OF COURSE!!! . You see, it's impossible to please everybody. They don't want to become Dave Matthews Band. I love DMB, but think they change up setlists TOO much, sometimes leaving a concert with MANY good songs to be desired. I'd rather have PJ any day. Look at some of the greats: Eric Clapton, Fleetwood Mac, David Gilmour, Paul McCartney. Same scripted show night after night. That's why I love Pearl Jam. They go OUT of their way to please fans. I mean, I'm sure there are 100+ songs they have to choose from every night. There's SO much they never play. But then again, so much they do . . .

Milestone

It's sooooooo early in the tour. We have a long summer ahead. As the tour progresses, the set lists will begin to vary much more. They are just getting warmed up.

hsewif

FeelLikeAStranger wrote:

Great shows but...Anybody else dissapointed? Too much "Greatest Hits" repeats nearly every show, not enough diversity. Im not neccessarily looking for rarities, as Im looking for the boys to play different setlists every night, with different songs spanning their entire career. I have no problem with them doing what they always do with a new album--playing the new ones alot, but the other songs that have been filling setlists have been way too repetitive. Lets see some original setlists! I thought Detroit was on the right track, but the boys rehearsed for 6 weeks this time around, and considering how much they tried to vary the sets in 03, I so far have been dissapointed.

What EXACTLY do you want to hear? What's "original" to you? They are promoting a new album so they're obviously going to play 5-8 new songs each night.....what else are you looking for? What's soooooo repetitive? They should play the standard favorites because those are the only songs that some people know......what else are you looking for? leash?

little_wish

We're only 10 shows into the tour. Check out the early shows from the 2003 tour, they were pretty standard setlists.

We've already had some great rarities considering how early into the tour we are. I can't even begin to imagine what they have in store for us over the summer.

red mos

FeelLikeAStranger wrote:

Great shows but...Anybody else dissapointed? Too much "Greatest Hits" repeats nearly every show, not enough diversity. Im not neccessarily looking for rarities, as Im looking for the boys to play different setlists every night, with different songs spanning their entire career. I have no problem with them doing what they always do with a new album--playing the new ones alot, but the other songs that have been filling setlists have been way too repetitive. Lets see some original setlists! I thought Detroit was on the right track, but the boys rehearsed for 6 weeks this time around, and considering how much they tried to vary the sets in 03, I so far have been dissapointed.

Do you mean like you want them to shelve the Staple songs like Corduroy, Evenflow, and RVM? you still want them played just not every night? If I understand this correctly, you would like them to do what they did for the Boston trio shows in 2003 every night? not a single song repeated? If that's what you want, I agree that would be cool, but extrememly hard if not impossiable to pull off. Most bands, have like 5 or 6 songs that get played every night, cause it's just how bands do it- so they can try to have somethng that appeals to everyone, even though they know they cannot please everyone. Would you possably want them to pick like 4 or 5 new staples if the no song repeated sets won't work? I am just asking, I am not trying to insult your post, and don't want you to interpret it the wrong way. Just trying to get clarification to see if I get the idea you are going for. I think these sets are holding some big suprises, since we have gotten rats, satan's bed, Red Mosquito, Garden, and I'm open and Leash has been soundchecked apparently. I agree that the sets in Canada were similar for the most part but were still great with a rare appearence of Black, red, yellow.

legolandbridge

I think judging a show by its setlist is irrelevant.

It's the experience, the energy and the sound that make a show. The jams too, and the interaction from the stage. Your seats and your mood sometimes can make a difference too. But you can't read a setlist from home and really cast an opinion on it. It's cool to hear a song that you really like, I agree, but it doesn't have to make or break a show. If anything I appreciate them doing Black with all the emotion they throw in it, never rushing through it, giving it all they got. Great performers all around.

If you always wait for that one rarity or marathon show, you're never really gonna enjoy yourself in there. It's just cool that you can't really guess what's next most of the time. Enjoy...

Sexy2aFault

FeelLikeAStranger wrote:

Great shows but...Anybody else dissapointed? Too much "Greatest Hits" repeats nearly every show, not enough diversity. Im not neccessarily looking for rarities, as Im looking for the boys to play different setlists every night, with different songs spanning their entire career. I have no problem with them doing what they always do with a new album--playing the new ones alot, but the other songs that have been filling setlists have been way too repetitive. Lets see some original setlists! I thought Detroit was on the right track, but the boys rehearsed for 6 weeks this time around, and considering how much they tried to vary the sets in 03, I so far have been dissapointed.

I get so sick of this.... Yeah, they should shelve the crowd pleasing "Even Flow" for "Education" and confuse 90% of the crowd? They have to get the crowd into it, and 90% of the crowd don't post here, ain't in the Ten Club reading setlists every night.... They are real people who need to be entertained. I would be pissed off if PJ neglected most of the crowd-thereby making an energy-less arena.

hawkeye8388

FeelLikeAStranger wrote:

Great shows but...Anybody else dissapointed? Too much "Greatest Hits" repeats nearly every show, not enough diversity. Im not neccessarily looking for rarities, as Im looking for the boys to play different setlists every night, with different songs spanning their entire career. I have no problem with them doing what they always do with a new album--playing the new ones alot, but the other songs that have been filling setlists have been way too repetitive. Lets see some original setlists! I thought Detroit was on the right track, but the boys rehearsed for 6 weeks this time around, and considering how much they tried to vary the sets in 03, I so far have been dissapointed.

They have already played some rare stuff (Rats, Why Go, I'm Open) and the setlist seem to span through their career. You gotta remember 80% of the people in attendance are not freaks like us. They want to hear Evenflow, Betterman, etc and the band wants them to enjoy the show too.

drew0

They could definitly switch it up without playing rarities, and still playing their hits that 90% of the people there want to hear, not the off the wall rarities the people in the first 4 rows want to hear.

I Got Shit, In My Tree, Grievance, Low Light, Low Light, Faithful, etc. don't get played a lot, but aren't really rarities, however should be played more to increase the diversity. I just wish they'd play more of their more popular songs that don't get played a lot, not Evenflow & Jeremy every show.

Sexy2aFault

hawkeye8388 wrote:

They have already played some rare stuff (Rats, Why Go, I'm Open) and the setlist seem to span through their career. You gotta remember 80% of the people in attendance are not freaks like us. They want to hear Evenflow, Betterman, etc and the band wants them to enjoy the show too.

Hehe..I went with 90%.

hsewif

I'm Open immediately into I Got ID

Present Tense

SOLAT

Crown of Thorns !

A stand-alone Save It For Later

A fricking Porch THAT GOES ON FOR TEN MINUTES!!!!!

(these are Chicago alone)....how are these a let-down? I'm having trouble understanding.....

edit----I forgot BLOOD! Along with a very cool bow-wow-wow-yipee-yow-cow-yay thing....

yeat another edit----indifference???

azwyldcats

you must be smoking some good shit! sets are awesome so far!

bootlegger10

This is an amazing run of setlists so far, considering it is still the beginning of the tour. Boston II should be pretty insane.

HailHail6868

FeelLikeAStranger wrote:

Great shows but...Anybody else dissapointed? Too much "Greatest Hits" repeats nearly every show, not enough diversity. Im not neccessarily looking for rarities, as Im looking for the boys to play different setlists every night, with different songs spanning their entire career. I have no problem with them doing what they always do with a new album--playing the new ones alot, but the other songs that have been filling setlists have been way too repetitive. Lets see some original setlists! I thought Detroit was on the right track, but the boys rehearsed for 6 weeks this time around, and considering how much they tried to vary the sets in 03, I so far have been dissapointed.

quit your bitching!!!!!! this msg pit has so many f-ing complainers it is ridiculous!!!!!! SHUT YOUR MOUTH!!!

hsewif

bootlegger10 wrote:

This is an amazing run of setlists so far, considering it is still the beginning of the tour. Boston II should be pretty insane.

Boston One heard Rats.

How more obscure can you get without saying Leash???

Sexy2aFault

HailHail6868 wrote:

quit your bitching!!!!!! this msg pit has so many f-ing complainers it is ridiculous!!!!!! SHUT YOUR MOUTH!!!

Hail,Hail bro!...Just check the encores, the second encores lately have been insane and yet we still see threads like these... We are so lucky to be getting this kind of energy from the band. People need to realize this.

HailHail6868

Sexy2aFault wrote:

Hail,Hail bro!...Just check the encores, the second encores lately have been insane and yet we still see threads like these... We are so lucky to be getting this kind of energy from the band. People need to realize this.

I agree!!! The band owes these c0cksuckers nothing!! They keep ticket prices down, rock out for 2 1/2 hours (dave matthews = 14 songs, at least 3 with 10 minute instrumentals), play songs from all 8 albums, switch up their setlists (U2 = same set for the entire tour).... and "fans" STILL COMPLAIN!!! It is sooo god damn ridiculous!!!!!

And I'm so happy the front rowers who want the rarities got pushed back on side stage seats for Grand Rapids.... probably the most front row energy of the whole tour!!

justam

FeelLikeAStranger wrote:

Great shows but...Anybody else dissapointed? Too much "Greatest Hits" repeats nearly every show, not enough diversity. Im not neccessarily looking for rarities, as Im looking for the boys to play different setlists every night, with different songs spanning their entire career. I have no problem with them doing what they always do with a new album--playing the new ones alot, but the other songs that have been filling setlists have been way too repetitive. Lets see some original setlists! I thought Detroit was on the right track, but the boys rehearsed for 6 weeks this time around, and considering how much they tried to vary the sets in 03, I so far have been dissapointed.

No disappointment here.

I think reading setlists night after night is making you artifically unappreciative.

Reading about something is different from being there.

goat boy

this is supposed to be our favorite band. What the hell are people bitching about? Pearl Jam is playing Pearl Jam music if you don't like the setlists then go see cold play or good charlotte or some shit like that

PJaddicted

I think that most of us "freaks" would be very very happy if we got just one rarity at each show....those of us who go to multiple shows each tour are just wishing for that. We know there is not guarantee....but we still hope!

oxc

Vedd Hedd

These setlists are great, you people are nuts.

glorified_j

greatest hits repeats.....if anything is being repeated and for that matter played in the same order too often is the severed hand wws and life wasted trio....if i attended a show and all they played was stuff from their first three albums id be fired up

hsewif

glorified_j wrote:

greatest hits repeats.....if anything is being repeated and for that matter played in the same order too often is the severed hand wws and life wasted trio....if i attended a show and all they played was stuff from their first three albums id be fired up

I disagree.

They're promoting their new album. How can you be pissed/surprised about hearing the top 5 every show? Severed Hand, WWS and Life Wasted flow perfectly together in live form.

Did you listen ealry? Greatest Hits repeats???

AliveinFL

Well here is what I say. In Chicago the played a total of 61 songs I believe(or pretty damn close) and of the 61 songs, they played 50 different songs making only 11 repeats. That is pretty damn diverse if you ask me. At least 3 or 4 of the repeats were because they are new tracks. Even if they aren't that diverse, you have to give it to the guys for playing 28-31 song sets and 2.5 - 3 hour long shows(for the most part).

two fish soul

seems a bit formulaic ... the old hits are there, a couple deep cuts that show up once a week (but stay the same), and the new album.

The set is a bit tired. Loved how they dropped Betterman in Detroit though.

rollingstone423

now MFC

PhillyPJ

FeelLikeAStranger wrote:

Great shows but...Anybody else dissapointed? Too much "Greatest Hits" repeats nearly every show, not enough diversity. Im not neccessarily looking for rarities, as Im looking for the boys to play different setlists every night, with different songs spanning their entire career. I have no problem with them doing what they always do with a new album--playing the new ones alot, but the other songs that have been filling setlists have been way too repetitive. Lets see some original setlists! I thought Detroit was on the right track, but the boys rehearsed for 6 weeks this time around, and considering how much they tried to vary the sets in 03, I so far have been dissapointed.

4 words:

Are you fucking nuts??

Slip Kid

I don't know what set lists you're looking, could you please explain the disappointment?

bass_man10

All I can say is pull your head out of your arse mate. The set lists are awesome.

NOCODE#1

why go ............2 much

indifference like all the time

where is in my tree?

or dissident?

etc