A man stumbles on a man molesting his daughter, kills him

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  • StillHereStillHere Posts: 7,795
    totally agreeing that its sad that anyone had to be so angry and distraught as to beat anohther human being to death
    that being said
    i totally get it
    the report did say that the case would be investigated and turned over to the DA's office for a decision on whether or not to charge
    even if he is charged, i don't think we could expect any jail time here
    it should be investigated just to be sure everything happened as the man says it did
    there are people nuts enough to make something like this up to justify and hide their actions
    not saying that's the case
    just saying it does happen
    for that little child i feel sad sad sad sad sad
    this is something that will effect her entire life and most likely the lives of her eventual relationship partners and possibly even her children
    horrible
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    StillHere wrote:
    this is something that will effect her entire life and most likely the lives of her eventual relationship partners and possibly even her children
    horrible
    This is what I was thinking - how it will affect her young psyche, not to mention her body.

    I'm glad this guy won't be able to do that to others.

    (and I have to wonder, how many before her?)
  • I have two daughters who are my world, one turns 6 in two days, one turns 3 in two months. I'd probably have done the same, but that doesn't mean it was within the confines of the law. There is such a thing as reasonable force. Did he NEED to kill the man to protect his daughter? Probably not. Not unless the perp had a weapon.

    Of course our emotions are swayed because this is a small child being victimized.

    but the justice system is built to take emotion out of the equation.
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  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    I hope the guy rots in hell and the young child can recover as well as her father. I also hope they investigate to make sure the story is correct and if it is no person should ever be punished for protecting anyone in this situation. Man, woman, child, adult...doesn't matter. Sexual predators are the lowest of the low. They aren't trying to steal your money, possessions, etc. They steal your soul. They need to feel power over you. These people can not be reformed.
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    heard about this today on the radio. Yikes.


    good for the dad. I don't envy those making the decision here. If there is a stroke of luck in the situation, it happened in Texas. I highly doubt there will be charges.

    Anyone think he should be charged with manslaughter/murder?

    LEGALLY SPEAKING...we live in a society of rules and laws, therefore I think the father should be charged with manslaughter or murder without premeditation, etc. ( I'm not a TX law expert), if it is applicable. I suspect his sentence will be something very minor, however, like 1 year probation or something.

    I think the investigation will be handled how it should, in the end, I doubt the grand jury indicts

    But as the sheriff said, he was acting in defense of a third party.

    I am not sure how many times the dad hit him, but it can take only one in the head to kill someone.
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  • BLACK35BLACK35 Hanover, Ontario Posts: 22,832
    I MIGHT BE THIS GUY TONIGHT, This has hit all to close to home, I just found out my 14 yr daughter was seduced and bascially raped by a 38 yr old man. I'M FUCKING FURIOUS AND GOING BALISTIC, I'M TRYING TO USE THIS FORUM SO i DONT END UP IN JAIL FOREVER
    SHAKING SOMETHING PROFUSLY, I'M AN INCH AWAY FROM SNAPPING, I NEEED SOME HELP
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    BLACK35 wrote:
    I MIGHT BE THIS GUY TONIGHT, This has hit all to close to home, I just found out my 14 yr daughter was seduced and bascially raped by a 38 yr old man. I'M FUCKING FURIOUS AND GOING BALISTIC, I'M TRYING TO USE THIS FORUM SO i DONT END UP IN JAIL FOREVER
    SHAKING SOMETHING PROFUSLY, I'M AN INCH AWAY FROM SNAPPING, I NEEED SOME HELP
    ...
    Police. Call the police... NOW!
    Better him in jail than you.
    You need to take care of your daughter... being behind bars ain't gonna help her.
    Call the police. That is what YOU pay them for.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Cosmo wrote:
    BLACK35 wrote:
    I MIGHT BE THIS GUY TONIGHT, This has hit all to close to home, I just found out my 14 yr daughter was seduced and bascially raped by a 38 yr old man. I'M FUCKING FURIOUS AND GOING BALISTIC, I'M TRYING TO USE THIS FORUM SO i DONT END UP IN JAIL FOREVER
    SHAKING SOMETHING PROFUSLY, I'M AN INCH AWAY FROM SNAPPING, I NEEED SOME HELP
    ...
    Police. Call the police... NOW!
    Better him in jail than you.
    You need to take care of your daughter... being behind bars ain't gonna help her.
    Call the police. That is what YOU pay them for.
    Absolutely, this.

    Black, I'm keeping good thoughts for your daughter and your family.

    Vent here and let it the fuck out, but for your and her sake, keep your head about you out there.
  • DS1119DS1119 Posts: 33,497
    BLACK35 wrote:
    I MIGHT BE THIS GUY TONIGHT, This has hit all to close to home, I just found out my 14 yr daughter was seduced and bascially raped by a 38 yr old man. I'M FUCKING FURIOUS AND GOING BALISTIC, I'M TRYING TO USE THIS FORUM SO i DONT END UP IN JAIL FOREVER
    SHAKING SOMETHING PROFUSLY, I'M AN INCH AWAY FROM SNAPPING, I NEEED SOME HELP


    Call the Police and comfort your daughter. She needs you at this time. The justice system will take care of scum like this. Fellow prisoners love to take liberties with predators like this in jail. Let him experience that pain and feeling of helplessness. Let them rip his fucking soul from a waste of a human being.
  • BLACK35BLACK35 Hanover, Ontario Posts: 22,832
    Thanks for letting me rant, obvisously I didn't do anything stupid last night to end up in jail (yet) We have gone to the police and it is in their hands for the moment. It was close, i know where this scumbag lives and I stood at the end of the laneway and thought of many things, angry can be hard to control. There is alot of road work being done where he lives and it was very hard not to pick up a shovel or any of the pipes that were lying very close by. Still very hard for me not to do anything, I'm still vibrating and I've only been up for 1/2 hr, shed many tears already this morning and everytime I do I want to kill this motherf*cker. You never think this shit is gonna happen to you. Again thank you guys/gals who passed on words, prayers, thoughts. Much appreciated. He is apparently gonna be charged with 3 counts of sexual assualt.

    DS119 your right as well, all I can think is that when this dirt bag goes to jail, he will get whats coming to him and I hope they use a broom stick with a razorblade on the end.
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  • dasvidanadasvidana Grand Junction CO Posts: 1,348
    BLACK35 wrote:
    Thanks for letting me rant, obvisously I didn't do anything stupid last night to end up in jail (yet) We have gone to the police and it is in their hands for the moment. It was close, i know where this scumbag lives and I stood at the end of the laneway and thought of many things, angry can be hard to control. There is alot of road work being done where he lives and it was very hard not to pick up a shovel or any of the pipes that were lying very close by. Still very hard for me not to do anything, I'm still vibrating and I've only been up for 1/2 hr, shed many tears already this morning and everytime I do I want to kill this motherf*cker. You never think this shit is gonna happen to you. Again thank you guys/gals who passed on words, prayers, thoughts. Much appreciated. He is apparently gonna be charged with 3 counts of sexual assualt.

    DS119 your right as well, all I can think is that when this dirt bag goes to jail, he will get whats coming to him and I hope they use a broom stick with a razorblade on the end.

    I am so sorry for what happened to your daughter. You are obviously a very caring dad. She is lucky to have you there to advocate for her. I hope you let the abuser have it to the fullest extent of the law. Just don't do anything that would take you away from your daughter. She needs you!
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  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    BLACK35 wrote:
    Thanks for letting me rant, obvisously I didn't do anything stupid last night to end up in jail (yet) We have gone to the police and it is in their hands for the moment. It was close, i know where this scumbag lives and I stood at the end of the laneway and thought of many things, angry can be hard to control. There is alot of road work being done where he lives and it was very hard not to pick up a shovel or any of the pipes that were lying very close by. Still very hard for me not to do anything, I'm still vibrating and I've only been up for 1/2 hr, shed many tears already this morning and everytime I do I want to kill this motherf*cker. You never think this shit is gonna happen to you. Again thank you guys/gals who passed on words, prayers, thoughts. Much appreciated. He is apparently gonna be charged with 3 counts of sexual assualt.

    DS119 your right as well, all I can think is that when this dirt bag goes to jail, he will get whats coming to him and I hope they use a broom stick with a razorblade on the end.

    Hats off to you for keeping your cool and doing the right thing. Whenever this much emotion is involved, you have to involve the authorities. I'm very sorry to hear about what your family is going through. I hope everything turns out ok.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    love me some texas

    they be killin child molesters w/ their bare hands
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    black35,

    wow. i do not even know what to say. holy shit wow. fucked up stuff.
    come here and type with us
    be with your daughter
    this is one fucked up thing to be going through
    pm me anytime
    im in iowa. you nearby? edit. no you are not close
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  • mikalinamikalina Posts: 7,206
    BLACK35 wrote:
    I MIGHT BE THIS GUY TONIGHT, This has hit all to close to home, I just found out my 14 yr daughter was seduced and bascially raped by a 38 yr old man. I'M FUCKING FURIOUS AND GOING BALISTIC, I'M TRYING TO USE THIS FORUM SO i DONT END UP IN JAIL FOREVER
    SHAKING SOMETHING PROFUSLY, I'M AN INCH AWAY FROM SNAPPING, I NEEED SOME HELP


    I am so sorry to read about this, my heart goes out to you and your daughter. I also have a 14 yr old daughter and would want to kill any SOB who would rape her. Please hold on and so glad you went to the police....

    For now comfort your daughter and give her all the love and help that she may need to recover from this ordeal so that she can grow up to be a wonderful adult.

    My thoughts and prayers...
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    BLACK35 wrote:
    Thanks for letting me rant, obvisously I didn't do anything stupid last night to end up in jail (yet) We have gone to the police and it is in their hands for the moment. It was close, i know where this scumbag lives and I stood at the end of the laneway and thought of many things, angry can be hard to control. There is alot of road work being done where he lives and it was very hard not to pick up a shovel or any of the pipes that were lying very close by. Still very hard for me not to do anything, I'm still vibrating and I've only been up for 1/2 hr, shed many tears already this morning and everytime I do I want to kill this motherf*cker. You never think this shit is gonna happen to you. Again thank you guys/gals who passed on words, prayers, thoughts. Much appreciated. He is apparently gonna be charged with 3 counts of sexual assualt.

    DS119 your right as well, all I can think is that when this dirt bag goes to jail, he will get whats coming to him and I hope they use a broom stick with a razorblade on the end.
    ...
    Do not take the law into your own hands. That has never worked out well. It will lead to lawyers and courts and bail and emotional, financial and physical stress and all kinds of crap you really don't want to deal with.
    Let the police do their job... do not interfere with their investigation... do not make contact with that criminal.
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  • mysticweedmysticweed Posts: 3,710
    pandora wrote:
    I'm kind of for this kind of justice ... it feels real and right


    ditto
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

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    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    I overheard yesterday two men talking about this case and they would do the same thing....I would too being for many years a single father raising my daughter.

    My only question in all this is.....was their proof of sexual assault to his daughter other than what the father said he saw and walked in on? What if the father is not telling the truth? Is it just a given that the father is to be believed...or were their tests done on the daughter that backs up what the father witnessed?

    I like to question everything.

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  • BLACK35BLACK35 Hanover, Ontario Posts: 22,832
    Thanks for all the kind words everyone. UPDATE: THEY ARRESTED THE SCUMBAG THIS AFTERNOON. My hands to the police for the fast turnaround on this. He goes for a bail hearing tomorrow at 10:00, the officer doesn't believe the judge will grant him bail. So only makes me wonder what kind a record he has. I'll be there, I need to let him know that prison is probably the best spot for himself at the moment.
    Thanks again :)
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Black, I'll continue to keep you all in my thoughts. Also, if you know the guy's name, there should be websites you can check to see if he's on a registered sex offender list.

    And g under p, you raise very good points; perhaps erroneously, I went on the assumption that he's telling the truth. I guess we'll learn more in the days to come about the physical state of the little girl.
  • LoulouLoulou Adelaide Posts: 6,247
    BLACK35 wrote:
    Thanks for all the kind words everyone. UPDATE: THEY ARRESTED THE SCUMBAG THIS AFTERNOON. My hands to the police for the fast turnaround on this. He goes for a bail hearing tomorrow at 10:00, the officer doesn't believe the judge will grant him bail. So only makes me wonder what kind a record he has. I'll be there, I need to let him know that prison is probably the best spot for himself at the moment.
    Thanks again :)
    I'm so sorry to hear this and it's great that this arsewipe is going to jail. I'm sure when they find out what he's in there for, they'll hurt him pretty badly. My cousin is in jail and he reckons that when they find out about pedophiles, they make sure to bash the living crap out of them. Your daughter is a very brave girl and I wish both you and her the very best.
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  • BLACK35BLACK35 Hanover, Ontario Posts: 22,832
    hedonist wrote:
    Black, I'll continue to keep you all in my thoughts. Also, if you know the guy's name, there should be websites you can check to see if he's on a registered sex offender list.

    And g under p, you raise very good points; perhaps erroneously, I went on the assumption that he's telling the truth. I guess we'll learn more in the days to come about the physical state of the little girl.

    They dont have the sex register offender list here in Ontario, and I believe all of Canada. Still protecting the scumbags
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  • dasvidanadasvidana Grand Junction CO Posts: 1,348
    BLACK35 wrote:
    Thanks for all the kind words everyone. UPDATE: THEY ARRESTED THE SCUMBAG THIS AFTERNOON. My hands to the police for the fast turnaround on this. He goes for a bail hearing tomorrow at 10:00, the officer doesn't believe the judge will grant him bail. So only makes me wonder what kind a record he has. I'll be there, I need to let him know that prison is probably the best spot for himself at the moment.
    Thanks again :)
    good news, indeed
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    BLACK35 wrote:
    Thanks for all the kind words everyone. UPDATE: THEY ARRESTED THE SCUMBAG THIS AFTERNOON. My hands to the police for the fast turnaround on this. He goes for a bail hearing tomorrow at 10:00, the officer doesn't believe the judge will grant him bail. So only makes me wonder what kind a record he has. I'll be there, I need to let him know that prison is probably the best spot for himself at the moment.
    Thanks again :)
    ...
    You did the right thing. I cannot come close to imagining the rage you must have felt, but you did the right thing. You need to be there for your daughter right now... that is the important thing. You must remember, your daughter's well being outweighs the pain you are going through. She needs her father... be there for her.
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    BLACK35 wrote:
    I MIGHT BE THIS GUY TONIGHT, This has hit all to close to home, I just found out my 14 yr daughter was seduced and bascially raped by a 38 yr old man. I'M FUCKING FURIOUS AND GOING BALISTIC, I'M TRYING TO USE THIS FORUM SO i DONT END UP IN JAIL FOREVER
    SHAKING SOMETHING PROFUSLY, I'M AN INCH AWAY FROM SNAPPING, I NEEED SOME HELP
    Yes help is what you need and not just from the police. Your daughter needs help to resolve
    the shame she may have for causing this, though not her fault. Kids they want to please,
    daughters so much so for their fathers. You need help to know how to best help her
    and resolve your rage that may even escalate in time.
    Seek counseling for you, her and anyone else involved.

    I hope your bond that grows from this will be, in time, the positive that remains.

    Thoughts and prayers for your child.
  • mikalinamikalina Posts: 7,206
    BLACK35 wrote:
    Thanks for all the kind words everyone. UPDATE: THEY ARRESTED THE SCUMBAG THIS AFTERNOON. My hands to the police for the fast turnaround on this. He goes for a bail hearing tomorrow at 10:00, the officer doesn't believe the judge will grant him bail. So only makes me wonder what kind a record he has. I'll be there, I need to let him know that prison is probably the best spot for himself at the moment.
    Thanks again :)


    This is wonderful news.... may it bring some comfort to you and your daughter.
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  • Cinnamon GirlCinnamon Girl Posts: 1,854
    BLACK35 wrote:

    They dont have the sex register offender list here in Ontario, and I believe all of Canada. Still protecting the scumbags

    We need to get this changed.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    BLACK35 wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    Black, I'll continue to keep you all in my thoughts. Also, if you know the guy's name, there should be websites you can check to see if he's on a registered sex offender list.

    And g under p, you raise very good points; perhaps erroneously, I went on the assumption that he's telling the truth. I guess we'll learn more in the days to come about the physical state of the little girl.

    They dont have the sex register offender list here in Ontario, and I believe all of Canada. Still protecting the scumbags
    ...
    Something else...
    Talk to the District Attorney's office and ask them to request a restraining order that restricts him from coming within X number of meters from you, your family, your home, etc..., just in case he makes bail.
    If he violates the restrainng order, CALL THE COPS... he's going to jail.
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  • LiLiNY81LiLiNY81 Posts: 775
    BLACK35 wrote:
    I MIGHT BE THIS GUY TONIGHT, This has hit all to close to home, I just found out my 14 yr daughter was seduced and bascially raped by a 38 yr old man. I'M FUCKING FURIOUS AND GOING BALISTIC, I'M TRYING TO USE THIS FORUM SO i DONT END UP IN JAIL FOREVER
    SHAKING SOMETHING PROFUSLY, I'M AN INCH AWAY FROM SNAPPING, I NEEED SOME HELP
    Here's the thing...you would get charged (and maybe convicted) with pre-meditated murder. This guy walked in to it happening and reacted. No jury in their right mind(s) would convict him. If anything, it would be considered temporary insanity. Not worth it, dude. Let the law take care of him.

    I'm so sorry this happened to your daughter, I can't even imagine the rage/hurt you're going through. The best thing you can do for your daughter is be there for her and get her the help she's going to need. Have faith in the justice system (and karma) and know that this guy will get his.
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