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A man stumbles on a man molesting his daughter, kills him

JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
edited June 2012 in A Moving Train
...with his bare hands.
This might be one of those times, the law doesnt apply. Watch the video in this CNN link, the town sheriff cant even keep straight when asked if the father should be charged.

http://us.cnn.com/2012/06/11/justice/te ... ?hpt=hp_t3
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  • mikalinamikalina Posts: 7,206
    Unfortunelty you have to watch your children constantly. The man was defending his daughter. I would understand his rage completely.

    "Asked whether they would press charges against the father, the sheriff responded, "You have a right to defend your daughter. He acted in defense of his third person. Once the investigation is completed we will submit it to the district attorney who then submits it to the grand jury, who will decide if they will indict him."
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  • StillHereStillHere Posts: 7,795
    what would you have done?
    peace,
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    I'm kind of for this kind of justice ... it feels real and right
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    StillHere wrote:
    what would you have done?

    I would've probably done the same thing. Its hard to say though, until you're in that situation, I suppose.
    But now that I've thought about it, I'd rather beat the guy to a pulp...an absolute pulp, and let him live. But I cant imagine the fury and how difficult it would be to hold back while I was pummeling him.
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  • StillHereStillHere Posts: 7,795
    JonnyPistachio wrote:
    StillHere wrote:
    what would you have done?

    I would've probably done the same thing. Its hard to say though, until you're in that situation, I suppose.
    But now that I've thought about it, I'd rather beat the guy to a pulp...an absolute pulp, and let him live. But I cant imagine the fury and how difficult it would be to hold back while I was pummeling him.

    i can imagine that he didn't really mean to kill him
    but he was so angry and shocked that he just kept hitting him
    the amount of pure energy that must have instantaneously built inside him when he came across this must have been phenomenal
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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    heard about this today on the radio. Yikes.


    good for the dad. I don't envy those making the decision here. If there is a stroke of luck in the situation, it happened in Texas. I highly doubt there will be charges.

    Anyone think he should be charged with manslaughter/murder?
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Heard about this earlier, and vehemently applaud the father.

    Four-year-old little girl being mauled by some sick fuck?

    Yeah, I think I'd have done the same.
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,769
    hedonist wrote:
    Heard about this earlier, and vehemently applaud the father.

    Four-year-old little girl being mauled by some sick fuck?

    Yeah, I think I'd have done the same.

    I've found that paternal instincts are very strong and instinctive, and one's strength must be vastly increased in this case. I don't think the guy could've helped himself.

    Anyways, he obviously should not be charged with anything. Maybe there should be some investigation to make sure the events really happened that way, but that's about it.
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  • JMoJMo Posts: 1,071
    This is horrible. The pain the family will feel for the rest of their lives...

    The molester only experienced pain for a short while before his death. He was let off easy.
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,459
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

    Anyways, he obviously should not be charged with anything. Maybe there should be some investigation to make sure the events really happened that way, but that's about it.

    I agree with this. Investigate and make sure it is understood (as much as it can be) that nothing is fishy and this is what happened and then give the dad an award for father of the year and give his poor daughter some counseling for having this happen to her and then watching her father beat the guy to death.
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  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    i agree with all of you.

    and i hope it hurt.
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    usamamasan1 wrote:
    i agree with all of you.

    and i hope it hurt.

    You hope it hurts that you agree with all of us? ;) ha, just kiddin..
    That's why I suggested the molester live, so it can hurt for a lot longer.
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  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    I have a daughter. I would do the same thing.

    No way he is indicted. If he is, there better be a bigger outcry about than there was for Treyvon Martin.
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  • WaveCameCrashinWaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Any father would have done this. Hell I would have done it to save a complete strangers son or daughter. Not to mention the fact that by doing what he did he probably saved a life or two. INO I think all convicted pedophiles should get the death penalty. Bcos in almost every case they end up hurting or killing another kid. These people cannot be rehabilitated.
  • markin ballmarkin ball Posts: 1,075
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    heard about this today on the radio. Yikes.


    good for the dad. I don't envy those making the decision here. If there is a stroke of luck in the situation, it happened in Texas. I highly doubt there will be charges.

    Anyone think he should be charged with manslaughter/murder?

    LEGALLY SPEAKING...we live in a society of rules and laws, therefore I think the father should be charged with manslaughter or murder without premeditation, etc. ( I'm not a TX law expert), if it is applicable. I suspect his sentence will be something very minor, however, like 1 year probation or something.
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 11,769
    markin ball wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    heard about this today on the radio. Yikes.


    good for the dad. I don't envy those making the decision here. If there is a stroke of luck in the situation, it happened in Texas. I highly doubt there will be charges.

    Anyone think he should be charged with manslaughter/murder?

    LEGALLY SPEAKING...we live in a society of rules and laws, therefore I think the father should be charged with manslaughter or murder without premeditation, etc. ( I'm not a TX law expert), if it is applicable. I suspect his sentence will be something very minor, however, like 1 year probation or something.

    Many of our rules and laws have no basis in common sense.

    (Sodomy laws anyone?)
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    My take...
    Since I don't know all of the evidence and facts about the case, Let the legal justice system work it out. This is America and we believe in Justice for all.
    Finish up the investigation, turn it over to the District Attorney and let him/her to decide what is needed... charges filed in a court trial, Grand Jury... yes or no. There is no such thing as a court of public opinion.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    I find it hard to applaud anyone beating anyone else to death even if it seems like a very good reason like this situation. My hope is that he won't be punished, though.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    know1 wrote:
    I find it hard to applaud anyone beating anyone else to death even if it seems like a very good reason like this situation. My hope is that he won't be punished, though.
    ...
    See. We agree on stuff.
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  • titchinellotitchinello Posts: 3,139
    i think they should put the report to the bottom of the pile, then somehow loose it in the next six weeks,

    i'm also not condoning murder, but in this sort of case....
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    markin ball wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    heard about this today on the radio. Yikes.


    good for the dad. I don't envy those making the decision here. If there is a stroke of luck in the situation, it happened in Texas. I highly doubt there will be charges.

    Anyone think he should be charged with manslaughter/murder?

    LEGALLY SPEAKING...we live in a society of rules and laws, therefore I think the father should be charged with manslaughter or murder without premeditation, etc. ( I'm not a TX law expert), if it is applicable. I suspect his sentence will be something very minor, however, like 1 year probation or something.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    I think he saved the taxpayers of Texas a good deal of money and made overall society just a smidgen better.
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    Jason P wrote:
    I think he saved the taxpayers of Texas a good deal of money and made overall society just a smidgen better.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,211
    I also have a daughter i would of done the same exact thing :clap::clap: Bravo to the dad ...
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  • STAYSEASTAYSEA Posts: 3,814
    Oh No! I have been there. If the man kills him and does not get in any trouble. Justice is right. If we have to pay taxes to keep him in jail? just because he did a protective thing , that is so wrong. I would do it too, just not killing. But he would never walk right again. Most Juries look away.. in TEXAS anyway. :lol:
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  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    Jason P wrote:
    I think he saved the taxpayers of Texas a good deal of money and made overall society just a smidgen better.
    Agree but Markin Ball has a good point. As awful and sick as the pedophile's crime was, he wasn't threatening the life of the girl. Can you (legally speaking) justify killing someone in self-defense when the original perpetrator wasn't threatening anyone's life?

    I just hope that the father's attorneys are able to make the case that the father was defending the girl's life.

    This is, of course, assuming that everything we know about this is accurate. If we weren't previously, after the trayvon martin thing, we should all be hesitant to jump to any conclusions based on initial media reports.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,156
    MotoDC wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    I think he saved the taxpayers of Texas a good deal of money and made overall society just a smidgen better.
    Agree but Markin Ball has a good point. As awful and sick as the pedophile's crime was, he wasn't threatening the life of the girl. Can you (legally speaking) justify killing someone in self-defense when the original perpetrator wasn't threatening anyone's life?

    I just hope that the father's attorneys are able to make the case that the father was defending the girl's life.

    This is, of course, assuming that everything we know about this is accurate. If we weren't previously, after the trayvon martin thing, we should all be hesitant to jump to any conclusions based on initial media reports.
    Meh. If he pulled a gun and shot him, maybe we give it a cursory look. But he punched the dude a few times in the head and the guy died. And a mandatory ass-kicking was in due order, without question.

    Plus, this is Texas where you can shoot repo men in the back of the head at 150 yards and not even get a citation due to cattle rustling laws. There may be laws where this guy gets a parade on the books.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    know1 wrote:
    I find it hard to applaud anyone beating anyone else to death even if it seems like a very good reason like this situation. My hope is that he won't be punished, though.
    Agreed, if you want to be pragmatic about it (no sarcasm intended). Something like this though, so difficult to react without emotions pushing through.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 40,184
    IF charged , I see not guilty by reason of temporary mental disease or defect. Heat of passion type thing.

    I doubt this guys death was intended or thought about by a rational mind. I dont have kids , but I could certainly see an explosive rage rises coming upon this scene.
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  • LoulouLoulou Adelaide Posts: 6,247
    josevolution wrote:
    I also have a daughter i would of done the same exact thing :clap::clap: Bravo to the dad ...
    I agree, the fact that this father and is daughter now have to deal with what this arsehole did for the rest of their lives is bad enough. He should be let off.
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