There should be no death penalty for people like this. Life term is good enough
(not touching the rehabilitation part).
What shocked me most about this is that he allegedly dated Karla Homolka.....wtf....is there some kind of sadist/murderer club you can join in Ontario, or what? :?
Apparently he was a big Stevie Yzerman fan as well.
Some people feel they need to see stuff to understand it; some people want to really grasp everything, even the awful stuff. I don't see a problem with that, and I don't think there's anything wrong with it. It's easy to SAY you understand something or whatever, but without witnessing it, some people just don't feel that way. I'm one of them. I want to see and understand anything that I want to talk about or discuss, really (although I've not sought out the Magnotta murder vid, I have watched some of the other shit online that he posted, as well as a vid about his vids with killing kittens, made by animal rights activists - just wanted to get a clearer view of what the guy is about). I only have a problem with people who like it or get some sick pleasure out of it.
So if it wasn't for the internet you wouldn't really have the ability to fully understand something so horrific? How exactly does it enrich your knowledge of the subject? I wonder how the victim or the family would feel about people watching their brutal death to satisfy their curiosity? How would you feel if it was a member of your family whose death was viewable online?
Well, for example, I wouldn't be able to advocate for IFAW if I didn't really know what was being done to animals in cases where IFAW contributes. So if I didn't watch the videos of cat and dog and seal slaughters or of dancing bears, etc, and exactly what is done to them and what it's REALLY like, I couldn't advocate against it to the best of my abilities. I personally have never watched a human death video that wasn't on the news, aside from that time those creeps turned on Faces of Death, and I walked out (although the news does fill in a lot of info). But I can still understand why people would watch such things for the sake of a better understanding in order to fully advocate against it or fully grasp the situation.
I personally find the "how would you feel if" argument a little useless, btw. It's too simple, and ignores human nature. I get it... It's just not realistically a way to approach these kinds of subjects.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
its human nature to gaze at the aftermath car crash if it comes into view. Its unpleasant, and there is always a chance of seeing something terrible, but most people have to choose to fight the urge.
its human nature to gaze at the aftermath car crash if it comes into view. Its unpleasant, and there is always a chance of seeing something terrible, but most people have to choose to fight the urge.
This might come out wrong, but I've also always seen it kinda as an ode to the victim. I can feel for the person more, and I find that I tend to appreciate life a tad bit more when I've seen the devil.
its human nature to gaze at the aftermath car crash if it comes into view. Its unpleasant, and there is always a chance of seeing something terrible, but most people have to choose to fight the urge.
I think it would actually be weird if someone didn't want to see the aftermath of a car crash... I mean, we're people. Of course we're going to be drawn to our fellow humans' tragedies, to want to see them and know what's going on. I think it would be rather inhuman to choose to ignore human tragedy and pretend it doesn't exist. Whoever figures it is more noble to turn away from human tragedy is a bit of a fool.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
when i was younger i saw the first 4 or 5 faces of death movies. we watched the first few on vhs tape in high school at a slumber party at a friend's house built in the early 1900s which was supposedly haunted. we did it to freak ourselves out... i saw the 4th or 5th one in the theater and if you made it through the whole thing they gave you some stupid certificate. i was 18, just old enough to get into the theater. i remember thinking how campy and cheesy the narration was and how fake some of those scenes of "death" looked. one in particular, how a murderer would go ahead and kill someone with a screwdriver knowing there was an entire camera and lighting crew 5 feet from them. he did not acknowledge the crew or threaten them or tell them to turn off the camera or anything. or in another scene a car fell off a jack and landed on a guy's leg severing it just below the knee. but somehow the car had been jacked up to reveal the injury and someone just happened to have a camera who stood by and filmed close up shots of the injury instead of trying to help the guy. it just did not add up to me....
i remember feeling really dirty on the inside after seeing the real stuff, but too much of it looked too fake to me to be really bothered by it.
i chalk it up to morbid curiosity and youthful indiscretion. i would not go to a theater and pay to watch it today.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
I think we spend a lot of time trying to think of the reasons why we might be drawn to cases such as this. I think the answer is simple.
The morbid curiousity is a natural trait in human beings. Much like I might find myself admiring a beautiful woman for her curves... I find myself drawn to tragedy. It cannot really be explained- it's just something that happens. Think of ancient Rome and the forum- how men, women, and children cheered for gore. Think of today as we pass by a road side accident, watch war footage or read about true crime. We just do it- always have and likely always will. Let's not give ourselves too much credit- we're a complex animal... stirred by instincts just like many other animals we share the planet with.
Tool's Vicarious is quite the profound song that sure resonates in me when I read this thread. What a wicked band.
There should be no death penalty for people like this. Life term is good enough
(not touching the rehabilitation part).
What shocked me most about this is that he allegedly dated Karla Homolka.....wtf....is there some kind of sadist/murderer club you can join in Ontario, or what? :?
From what I can tell, the Karla story is bullshit that luka himself may have started and then denied. And the fact that she is WAY older than him enforces that. He is 29... I think she did her shit in 94 or 96, and she was already an adult then. No one has found any reason to think a relationship with her ever existed.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I think it would actually be weird if someone didn't want to see the aftermath of a car crash... I mean, we're people. Of course we're going to be drawn to our fellow humans' tragedies, to want to see them and know what's going on. I think it would be rather inhuman to choose to ignore human tragedy and pretend it doesn't exist. Whoever figures it is more noble to turn away from human tragedy is a bit of a fool.
Is the urge not more because you don't know what the outcome is if you pass a car crash? With a snuff video you presumably know what the outcome is before you see it? Plus it's not like you just happen to stumble across this stuff. In addition, what possible reason would anyone have for putting such videos up online, other than for financial/entertainment value?
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Then again, who isn't?
I personally find the "how would you feel if" argument a little useless, btw. It's too simple, and ignores human nature. I get it... It's just not realistically a way to approach these kinds of subjects.
This might come out wrong, but I've also always seen it kinda as an ode to the victim. I can feel for the person more, and I find that I tend to appreciate life a tad bit more when I've seen the devil.
i remember feeling really dirty on the inside after seeing the real stuff, but too much of it looked too fake to me to be really bothered by it.
i chalk it up to morbid curiosity and youthful indiscretion. i would not go to a theater and pay to watch it today.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
The morbid curiousity is a natural trait in human beings. Much like I might find myself admiring a beautiful woman for her curves... I find myself drawn to tragedy. It cannot really be explained- it's just something that happens. Think of ancient Rome and the forum- how men, women, and children cheered for gore. Think of today as we pass by a road side accident, watch war footage or read about true crime. We just do it- always have and likely always will. Let's not give ourselves too much credit- we're a complex animal... stirred by instincts just like many other animals we share the planet with.
Tool's Vicarious is quite the profound song that sure resonates in me when I read this thread. What a wicked band.
Is the urge not more because you don't know what the outcome is if you pass a car crash? With a snuff video you presumably know what the outcome is before you see it? Plus it's not like you just happen to stumble across this stuff. In addition, what possible reason would anyone have for putting such videos up online, other than for financial/entertainment value?