We've Gone Backward?

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  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    inmytree wrote:
    why bother...will it change anything...? again, you clearly have no clue about the OBL raid...none...and I'm not here to educate you...that's your job and you earned an F....

    my statement was clear and simple...sure it can be seen as "speculation"...just as your statements can be seen as "speculation"...the fact is, no one can say anything to you that will change your mind...sadly you don't even know that...

    you're welcome... 8-)

    :lol::lol::lol: What a cop out answer. Yes, there was some super, top secret reason that only Obama had..... Thank Obama for Obama (see what I did there? ;) ). :lol:
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    Jason P wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    post ww2 .. name one place america has left for the better? ... did you guys change anything in vietnam except massacre many people? ... nicaragua? ... guatemala? ... iran? ... anywhere? ...
    South Korea is doing fairly well. Their socialist neighbors, not so much.

    So, in other words - people that want to help themselves are much more successful capitalizing (sorry, pun intended) on our help than those that don't? Hmmmm. Interesting.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Jason P wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    post ww2 .. name one place america has left for the better? ... did you guys change anything in vietnam except massacre many people? ... nicaragua? ... guatemala? ... iran? ... anywhere? ...
    South Korea is doing fairly well. Their socialist neighbors, not so much.
    Vietnam has made a good recovery after adopting free market reforms in 1986.

    The dong accomplished what the bullet couldn't.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Jason P wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    post ww2 .. name one place america has left for the better? ... did you guys change anything in vietnam except massacre many people? ... nicaragua? ... guatemala? ... iran? ... anywhere? ...
    South Korea is doing fairly well. Their socialist neighbors, not so much.
    Grenada is doing as well as you would expect for an isolated island economy run on tourism.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    Jason P wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    post ww2 .. name one place america has left for the better? ... did you guys change anything in vietnam except massacre many people? ... nicaragua? ... guatemala? ... iran? ... anywhere? ...
    South Korea is doing fairly well. Their socialist neighbors, not so much.
    Kuwait is doing extremely well.
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    post ww2 .. name one place america has left for the better? ... did you guys change anything in vietnam except massacre many people? ... nicaragua? ... guatemala? ... iran? ... anywhere? ...
    South Korea is doing fairly well. Their socialist neighbors, not so much.
    Kuwait is doing extremely well.

    kuwait? ... not a single bit of that first gulf war was fought in kuwait ... kuwait is in the same place as it has been ... as for korea ... the country should never have been split up to begin with ...
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    grenada!?? ... the same war that was condemned around the world!? ... you're gonna point to that as a good deed by the US? ... and vietnam!????????? ... :fp:
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    dude, if he can't run a National Campaign, he surely can't run the Amercia...


    You obviously have no clue about politics, and I would guess have no idea about upper management in any situation. The politics of getting there is completely different than competency. See America, Bank of. Or, MC, G.

    and you have a clue...?!?! now that's some more funny shit...

    Rudy didn't win, didn't even come close...now he's not even running...and you still think he's the man for the job...yeah, you have lots of clues... :lol:
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    why bother...will it change anything...? again, you clearly have no clue about the OBL raid...none...and I'm not here to educate you...that's your job and you earned an F....

    my statement was clear and simple...sure it can be seen as "speculation"...just as your statements can be seen as "speculation"...the fact is, no one can say anything to you that will change your mind...sadly you don't even know that...

    you're welcome... 8-)

    :lol::lol::lol: What a cop out answer. Yes, there was some super, top secret reason that only Obama had..... Thank Obama for Obama (see what I did there? ;) ). :lol:

    thanks for proving my point....

    have a good one... :P
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    polaris_x wrote:
    kuwait? ... not a single bit of that first gulf war was fought in kuwait ... kuwait is in the same place as it has been ... as for korea ... the country should never have been split up to begin with ...
    You tend to have a half-empty perspective on anything related to the U.S. :fp:
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    Jason P wrote:
    You tend to have a half-empty perspective on anything related to the U.S. :fp:

    we are talking about tyrannical regimes that the US has gone in and deposed and then left a functioning democracy ... you gave me kuwait as an example ... how does that work?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,895
    Jason P wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    kuwait? ... not a single bit of that first gulf war was fought in kuwait ... kuwait is in the same place as it has been ... as for korea ... the country should never have been split up to begin with ...
    You tend to have a half-empty perspective on anything related to the U.S. :fp:


    No, clearly it's always completely empty. :lol:
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  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    :lol: ... here we go with polaris hates america ... therefore - i will ignore his points completely and just continue to use this tired line of reasoning ... :lol:
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    polaris_x wrote:
    Jason P wrote:
    You tend to have a half-empty perspective on anything related to the U.S. :fp:

    we are talking about tyrannical regimes that the US has gone in and deposed and then left a functioning democracy ... you gave me kuwait as an example ... how does that work?
    I gave you:

    Panama - Dictatorship to democratic republic

    Grenada - Socialist dictatorship coup to democracy

    South Korea - Prevented half the country from being part of the biggest craphole in the world

    Kuwait - would be under the control of a dictorship right now without US intervention.

    boom goes the dynamite.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,895
    polaris_x wrote:
    :lol: ... here we go with polaris hates america ... therefore - i will ignore his points completely and just continue to use this tired line of reasoning ... :lol:

    You should really change your name... "American Hater_X", maybe get Ed Norton to star as you in a movie abotu how much you hate America!!! :corn:
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  • Lizard
    Lizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    First thing my boss says when he walked in this morning is "Have you ever heard of Artur Davis".....um no. He is a die hard Fox watcher and radio listener so I KNEW it was a political thing. He just wanted to make the point that I won't hear about him in the media, blah blah blah.

    WRONG.

    I heard about him on the Pearl Jam Message Board!!!!!!!
    so there.

    8-)
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  • EdsonNascimento
    EdsonNascimento Posts: 5,531
    inmytree wrote:
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    dude, if he can't run a National Campaign, he surely can't run the Amercia...


    You obviously have no clue about politics, and I would guess have no idea about upper management in any situation. The politics of getting there is completely different than competency. See America, Bank of. Or, MC, G.

    and you have a clue...?!?! now that's some more funny shit...

    Rudy didn't win, didn't even come close...now he's not even running...and you still think he's the man for the job...yeah, you have lots of clues... :lol:

    :lol::lol::lol:
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • polaris_x
    polaris_x Posts: 13,559
    cincybearcat wrote:
    You should really change your name... "American Hater_X", maybe get Ed Norton to star as you in a movie abotu how much you hate America!!! :corn:

    i want to get rid of that _x ... when the board changed over - it wouldn't allow me to use polaris anymore ...

    anyhoo - you flag-waving USA chanting folks can continue to see things through rose coloured glasses ... i would have to if i was american ... :mrgreen:
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,327
    polaris_x wrote:
    cincybearcat wrote:
    You should really change your name... "American Hater_X", maybe get Ed Norton to star as you in a movie abotu how much you hate America!!! :corn:

    i want to get rid of that _x ... when the board changed over - it wouldn't allow me to use polaris anymore ...

    anyhoo - you flag-waving USA chanting folks can continue to see things through rose coloured glasses ... i would have to if i was american ... :mrgreen:
    It's spelled "colored", you crazy canuck. You guys keep it up and we are taking the Jets back. ;)

    :ugeek:

    8-)

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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,820
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    polaris_x wrote:
    EdsonNascimento wrote:
    I find your 1st and 3rd sentences (skipping the having said that) interesting when put together. :?

    What exactly did Obama accomplish? Romney has actually accomplished more at this point than Obama did when he was elected. You should stop with the liberal rhetoric. Obama has not accomplished what he set out to. Leaders have only themselves to blame. Blaming others is not leadership.

    :lol: ... liberal rhetoric! ... listen - i wouldn't vote for obama nor any other democrat ... i think i'm objective enough to see tho that a huge part of his failure is his seeming necessity to please the republicans when their only agenda is to screw him over ... it is evident ... his failure is due in large part to the partisanship by which americans view politics ... these politicians don't care about the people ... they are in it for their own personal goals ... mitt is a prime example of that ...

    OBAMA HAD BOTH HOUSES FOR 2 YEARS!!!! Sorry for the caps, but folks seem to keep forgetting this. That is more time than any President in the last 50 years. And if anything the impact of those 2 years is what should be getting felt now, not the last 18 months (especially if the argument is it takes time). And he squandered it worrying about his legacy (health care). Which is sort of ironic for a President to do in the first year of his intended 8 year stay. That's usually reserved for years 7 and 8.....
    Umm, maybe he had both the house and the senate, BUT there wasnt a clear enough majority in either to push much of anything through.

    I find it depressingly funny that the party slamming the pres so much about his percieved failures are content to sit with their thumbs up their asses doing NOTHING on their own to help the country out of the mess that greed built.
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