brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,335
As many of you know by now, I'm a HUGE Neil Young fan. That said, today I was kind of bummed about a very highly regarded NY album: Live at Massey Hall. I know, you're thinking, WTF, Lux?
Let me explain. I had sample this record on line and felt very iffy about it.
WTF???, you say again.
OK, hold on, I'm getting there.
I was immediately wary from the little I sampled because of all the polite audience clapping and Neil's chatter. So for the last however long it's been, I've kept waffling about getting this one. Well, today I ran across a CD of it in a thrift store and I thought, "OK, hey! Now I can check it out!". I got it home and gave it a play.
Two thing bothered me right off. One, the plastic shrink was open but still on the CD and on that shrink was a sticker that mentioned Starbucks. Ah oh. Really? Commercialism popped into my head.
And then problem #2: the CD will not navigate in my Marantz CD player with the remote. No other CD that I own have this problem. Hmmm, that sucks.
Problem #3 and #4 (and this is the deal breaker for me): Again, I am put off by all of the polite clapping that spoils the opening of each of the marvelously performed songs and it sounds hokey to me at the end of each one. And then there's Neil's chatter. Neil has such a great voice- it's not that. It's just that it interrupts the flow of the songs. If I could hear this record without the clapping and the chatter, I'm guessing it would rank as one of my favorite NY albums. As it is, I will have to settle for the studio versions of these songs that I love so much leave it at that. Sad, but true.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
As many of you know by now, I'm a HUGE Neil Young fan. That said, today I was kind of bummed about a very highly regarded NY album: Live at Massey Hall. I know, you're thinking, WTF, Lux?
Let me explain. I had sample this record on line and felt very iffy about it.
WTF???, you say again.
OK, hold on, I'm getting there.
I was immediately wary from the little I sampled because of all the polite audience clapping and Neil's chatter. So for the last however long it's been, I've kept waffling about getting this one. Well, today I ran across a CD of it in a thrift store and I thought, "OK, hey! Now I can check it out!". I got it home and gave it a play.
Two thing bothered me right off. One, the plastic shrink was open but still on the CD and on that shrink was a sticker that mentioned Starbucks. Ah oh. Really? Commercialism popped into my head.
And then problem #2: the CD will not navigate in my Marantz CD player with the remote. No other CD that I own have this problem. Hmmm, that sucks.
Problem #3 and #4 (and this is the deal breaker for me): Again, I am put off by all of the polite clapping that spoils the opening of each of the marvelously performed songs and it sounds hokey to me at the end of each one. And then there's Neil's chatter. Neil has such a great voice- it's not that. It's just that it interrupts the flow of the songs. If I could hear this record without the clapping and the chatter, I'm guessing it would rank as one of my favorite NY albums. As it is, I will have to settle for the studio versions of these songs that I love so much leave it at that. Sad, but true.
I have to say I agree with S_C here. I enjoy the chatter, the guitar tuning, the laughing etc. It makes for a more complete and intimate experience. I like hearing the 'young' Neil finding his way in front of an audience. I never really thought about the clapping though, to be honest. It doesn't sound that out of place to me.
If the clapping and talking had been removed, it would probably make Massey Hall one of the all time greatest acoustic records!
“Do not postpone happiness”
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
(Tim Rogers)
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,335
As many of you know by now, I'm a HUGE Neil Young fan. That said, today I was kind of bummed about a very highly regarded NY album: Live at Massey Hall. I know, you're thinking, WTF, Lux?
Let me explain. I had sample this record on line and felt very iffy about it.
WTF???, you say again.
OK, hold on, I'm getting there.
I was immediately wary from the little I sampled because of all the polite audience clapping and Neil's chatter. So for the last however long it's been, I've kept waffling about getting this one. Well, today I ran across a CD of it in a thrift store and I thought, "OK, hey! Now I can check it out!". I got it home and gave it a play.
Two thing bothered me right off. One, the plastic shrink was open but still on the CD and on that shrink was a sticker that mentioned Starbucks. Ah oh. Really? Commercialism popped into my head.
And then problem #2: the CD will not navigate in my Marantz CD player with the remote. No other CD that I own have this problem. Hmmm, that sucks.
Problem #3 and #4 (and this is the deal breaker for me): Again, I am put off by all of the polite clapping that spoils the opening of each of the marvelously performed songs and it sounds hokey to me at the end of each one. And then there's Neil's chatter. Neil has such a great voice- it's not that. It's just that it interrupts the flow of the songs. If I could hear this record without the clapping and the chatter, I'm guessing it would rank as one of my favorite NY albums. As it is, I will have to settle for the studio versions of these songs that I love so much leave it at that. Sad, but true.
I have to say I agree with S_C here. I enjoy the chatter, the guitar tuning, the laughing etc. It makes for a more complete and intimate experience. I like hearing the 'young' Neil finding his way in front of an audience. I never really thought about the clapping though, to be honest. It doesn't sound that out of place to me.
If the clapping and talking had been removed, it would probably make Massey Hall one of the all time greatest acoustic records!
The performances certainly are great. As much as I'm a vinyl fan, I'll probably stick with the CD and save my record shopping money for other releases. Who knows what will show up out of the vault. Maybe a re-issue of Weld on vinyl!
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
"Try to not spook the horse."
-Neil Young
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goldrush
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I just ordered the Archives II box set It’s $250 for 10 discs, but I kept hold of the 15% discount code I received when I signed up for NYA 2 years ago so it came to $228.47 (including shipping to AUS)
“Do not postpone happiness”
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
Went to a new local shop yesterday and they had “Imports” of Le Noise and Mirrorball, $39 each I think. These are bootlegs I take it? I think one of them had Germany in the fine print.
Went to a new local shop yesterday and they had “Imports” of Le Noise and Mirrorball, $39 each I think. These are bootlegs I take it? I think one of them had Germany in the fine print.
Yeah they must be bootlegs. Le Noise and Mirrorball are so hard to find these days, and never at $39!!
“Do not postpone happiness”
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
(Tim Rogers)
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goldrush
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I need to get of my subscription. But didn't solve how last time I was on it. And haven't been back for like half a year.
THAT IS HOW THEY GET YOU.
EDIT: cancelled
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goldrush
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Clarification from John Hanlon on the criteria for the numbered releases. He also confirms that the next ORS box will include Hawks & Doves, Re-Ac-Tor, This Note's For You, and Eldorado. As these are release numbers 13,14, 20, and 21 it seems the boxes will skip the Geffen years.
“Do not postpone happiness”
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
I guess the stand alones are now 180g. The first box was numbered and thats the difference. But IDK if the box 2 albums have had stand alone releases yet.
I generally don't get down on the cost of vinyl in 2020 (things are more expensive, there isn't a huge quantity of records manufactured to spread out the costs of making a record). But this is INSANELY unreasonable for the content. Its essentially $70 for a 7" and a Litho (probably a record flat) with different artwork.
Basically $100 for a 7” single with 2 versions of Wonderin’ (and one of the versions was already in the Archives I box) and a lithograph
Maybe this is Reprise’s way of making the $250 Archives II box look like a bargain.
I noticed this blurb mentioned Gary Burden. I dated his son Jesse briefly in the early 2000s. He got us VIP backstage passes to CSNY at the Garden. Never got to meet Neil. But Jesse told me about how Neil Young used to read him bedtime stories when he was a kid. He was great friends with his dad.
I'm shocked no one has mentioned the addition of the #50 to the cover. That should add a minimum of $50 to value. You can find an OG pressing at almost any record store for $15-$25 or just get the remaster for $23. I was excited when I got the email but quickly passed on this. Definitely not worth it! I'll keep spinning my 1970 pressing at that price. Save that $100 for a rare NY title.
yeah, I'd rather use the $100 to buy Broken Arrow.
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,335
edited November 2020
Where did thee years go? I remember when you could buy After the Gold Rush new for $3.99, maybe less if it was on sale. I should have bought a stack of them and kept them in a cool, dark, dry place for 50 years.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
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... hmm... but how often will I... return to... it and spin it...
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
I DO NOT LIKE THAT I NEVER BOUGHT THE VINYL.
'Come Along And Say You Will', a cool tune with the Stray Gators
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
(Tim Rogers)
I never really thought about the clapping though, to be honest. It doesn't sound that out of place to me.
If the clapping and talking had been removed, it would probably make Massey Hall one of the all time greatest acoustic records!
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
(Tim Rogers)
The performances certainly are great. As much as I'm a vinyl fan, I'll probably stick with the CD and save my record shopping money for other releases. Who knows what will show up out of the vault. Maybe a re-issue of Weld on vinyl!
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
It’s $250 for 10 discs, but I kept hold of the 15% discount code I received when I signed up for NYA 2 years ago so it came to $228.47 (including shipping to AUS)
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
(Tim Rogers)
Enjoy goldrush. Looks like a great set!
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
(Tim Rogers)
It looks like there will be a second edition of Archives II fairly soon, and they are also working on Volume III
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
(Tim Rogers)
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
(Tim Rogers)
-EV 8/14/93
I need to get of my subscription. But didn't solve how last time I was on it. And haven't been back for like half a year.
THAT IS HOW THEY GET YOU.
EDIT: cancelled
He also confirms that the next ORS box will include Hawks & Doves, Re-Ac-Tor, This Note's For You, and Eldorado.
As these are release numbers 13,14, 20, and 21 it seems the boxes will skip the Geffen years.
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
(Tim Rogers)
Also, kinda weird that he didn't negotiate owning the masters. Maybe thats not something people cared about in 1982.
Vinyl set is $100. CD is $15
As of now (no details are out yet) the vinyl seems to be the album and a 7". yikes.
(Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)
“Put yer good money on the sunrise”
(Tim Rogers)
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-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"