Arrest made in black-mob attack on whites

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edited May 2012 in A Moving Train
So pleased to see that someone will be facing charges.

Thuggery

http://nation.foxnews.com/crime/2012/05 ... on-justice

Last night we reported that two journalists working for the "Virginian Pilot" newspaper were assaulted in Norfolk by a group of black men.
 
The crime took place on April 14th, shortly after 11 p.m. 26-year-old Marjon Rostami and 31 year-old David Forster were riding in a Chevy Cavalier when they stopped at a light. Apparently someone threw a rock at their car whereupon Mr. Forster got out of the car to confront the assailant. He was set upon and beaten. Ms. Rostami called 911 and then she was beaten by the men.
 
“The Factor” obtained the police of the incident where a hate crime box is checked off. But police now say that was a clerical error. We asked the police for the 911 tape. Late today they told us they would decide tomorrow whether to release it to us. We certainly hope they do. The folks have a right to know what happened.
 
Today Norfolk Police arrested a 16-year-old in the case. But we don't know much about him. We do know that the couple had to get medical attention and missed a full week of work at the newspaper. But incredibly the "Virginian Pilot" didn't cover the story until two weeks later.
 
Editor Denis Finley is saying the paper thought it was a simple assault and they don't cover that kind of crime. “The Factor” does not believe Mr. Finley. He had to know that two of his employees were attacked by a mob.
 
We believe Finley avoided covering the story because of its racial component. The paper simply tried to cover it up. Now consider what would have happened if a mob of white men descended on a car and beat up a black man and a black woman. I don't have to say anymore. You know what would happen.
 
So why is this case any different? Why isn't it getting national coverage? Why isn't the Justice Department on the scene with a federal presence? Those questions remain unanswered.
 
Tonight in America we are supposed to have equal justice for all. And there are many laws that protect minorities as there should be. But a bias crime is a bias crime, no matter what skin color is involved. These two reporters are just sitting at a light on the way back from a theater when all hell broke loose.
 
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
 
DAVE FORESTER, "VIRGINIAN PILOT": The first punch was like square right in the nose just absorbing the blows and being like ok. I'm all right. I can get back inside. But yeah, there was definitely a moment where, you know, when I'm surrounded and getting punched that I'm thinking this is getting really bad.
 
(END VIDEO CLIP)
 
O'REILLY: In the neighborhood where the attack took place, some folks weren't surprised.
 
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
 
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You by yourself or if you are not from around here or you don't know anybody around here, you are a target… automatically.
 
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And then with all that Trayvon Martin stuff going on, there's a lot of dumb -- a lot of dumb stuff is happening. And people are reacting on different races for dumb stuff, you know. So you know, it could be related to that or it could be people just want to act stupid.
 
(END VIDEO CLIP)
 
O'REILLY: So let's recap. It looks like a cover up by the "Virginian Pilot" newspaper. It looks like the Norfolk Police are confused. Was it a hate crime or not? The Justice Department has so far ignored our request for comments but Attorney General Holder has a responsibility to look into the situation and we will hold Holder to that.
 
This is a major story. We cannot have Americans of any color being set upon by violent mobs. That cannot stand in this country. “The Factor” will continue to demand justice in Virginia.
 
And that's "The Memo."
 
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Didn't happen. Only white people are racist. Ask Al and Jesse.
  • Johnny AggroJohnny Aggro Posts: 543
    Who the hell cares if it was a hate crime??? It was an assault on two PEOPLE by PEOPLE.

    End of!!! :evil:
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  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I'm glad the police did their jobs and made the arrest.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,214
    unsung wrote:
    Didn't happen. Only white people are racist. Ask Al and Jesse.

    No the White's started Racism remember the Slaves :P
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    ya ... no racism in america at all! ...
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    polaris_x wrote:
    ya ... no racism in america at all! ...
    You'll get your canuck arse back above the border if you know what's good for ya. We don't take kindly to your kind down here! :lol:
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    MotoDC wrote:
    You'll get your canuck arse back above the border if you know what's good for ya. We don't take kindly to your kind down here! :lol:

    i've got nowhere to go then! ... my prime minister is an asshole and my mayor is an idiot!
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    polaris_x wrote:
    MotoDC wrote:
    You'll get your canuck arse back above the border if you know what's good for ya. We don't take kindly to your kind down here! :lol:

    i've got nowhere to go then! ... my prime minister is an asshole and my mayor is an idiot!
    I live in (or near) Washington, DC. You know nothing of idiot mayors, Jon Snow. :D
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    MotoDC wrote:
    I live in (or near) Washington, DC. You know nothing of idiot mayors, Jon Snow. :D

    our mayor got busted for cocaine influenced dui in florida ... and one of the first things he did as a mayor was sign on to lose weight (he's over 300 lbs) ... dude was at a kfc a few weeks ago and hasn't lost any weight ...

    feel free to look up rob ford ...
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    Back on topic, just because there is an unprovoked attack by a white on a black or a black on a white, doesn't make it a hate crime. You have to be able to show that the attack was motivated by the race of the victim. Maybe that's the case in this instance, but it certainly isn't borne out by this O'Reilly transcript on its own.

    That said, I tend to agree with Johnny Aggro -- I have a hard time wrapping my mind around why we need a hate crimes category of violent crimes. Dead / beaten / raped / etc is still dead / beaten / raped /etc., whatever the driving factor.
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    polaris_x wrote:
    MotoDC wrote:
    I live in (or near) Washington, DC. You know nothing of idiot mayors, Jon Snow. :D

    our mayor got busted for cocaine influenced dui in florida ... and one of the first things he did as a mayor was sign on to lose weight (he's over 300 lbs) ... dude was at a kfc a few weeks ago and hasn't lost any weight ...

    feel free to look up rob ford ...
    Haha, sounds like we all have our gems. Our former mayor, Marion Barry, is still winning local elections in his ward. Busted for crack possession in 1990, found guilty of tax evasion in 2005, tested positive for pot and coke as a part of that trial. Oh and did I mention he's also a teeny bit of a racist?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/25/marion-barry-philippines_n_1454191.html
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    When did one person constitute a ‘MOB’? When did O’Reilly go from calling them ‘Thugs’ to ‘black men’? Talk about using patchwork facts, makes you wonder if this is another FOX News staged public stunt.
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  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    puremagic wrote:
    When did one person constitute a ‘MOB’? When did O’Reilly go from calling them ‘Thugs’ to ‘black men’? Talk about using patchwork facts, makes you wonder if this is another FOX News staged public stunt.
    Granted this is just the victim's account, so it's hardly objective, but this was part of the transcript:

    "But yeah, there was definitely a moment where, you know, when I'm surrounded and getting punched that I'm thinking this is getting really bad."

    Who knows. A transcript from a political talk show is hardly a full picture of what happened, but it's a piece of the puzzle.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    MotoDC wrote:
    Haha, sounds like we all have our gems. Our former mayor, Marion Barry, is still winning local elections in his ward. Busted for crack possession in 1990, found guilty of tax evasion in 2005, tested positive for pot and coke as a part of that trial. Oh and did I mention he's also a teeny bit of a racist?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/25/marion-barry-philippines_n_1454191.html

    yeah ... i remember reading about barry ... :? :fp: :lol:
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    polaris_x wrote:
    MotoDC wrote:
    You'll get your canuck arse back above the border if you know what's good for ya. We don't take kindly to your kind down here! :lol:

    i've got nowhere to go then! ... my prime minister is an asshole and my mayor is an idiot!

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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Who the hell cares if it was a hate crime??? It was an assault on two PEOPLE by PEOPLE.

    End of!!! :evil:
    Agreed; that label is silly and seems like semantics to me. Are we gonna start calling rape a "power crime"?

    In any event, if there was racism involved in this - and who knows if there was or wasn't - it should be brought out and addressed as with any other similar crimes. And if not, let's not look for it.

    That applies to all spectrums of the "rainbow", so to speak.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    hedonist wrote:
    Who the hell cares if it was a hate crime??? It was an assault on two PEOPLE by PEOPLE.

    End of!!! :evil:
    Agreed; that label is silly and seems like semantics to me. Are we gonna start calling rape a "power crime"?

    In any event, if there was racism involved in this - and who knows if there was or wasn't - it should be brought out and addressed as with any other similar crimes. And if not, let's not look for it.

    That applies to all spectrums of the "rainbow", so to speak.

    fuck me running ! you guys read about a white guy or even just part white attacking a black person and it's a racist hate crime but turn it around and it's just a crime by "people" pleeeaaasse ! gimmi a friggin break.

    Godfather.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Godfather. wrote:
    hedonist wrote:
    Who the hell cares if it was a hate crime??? It was an assault on two PEOPLE by PEOPLE.

    End of!!! :evil:
    Agreed; that label is silly and seems like semantics to me. Are we gonna start calling rape a "power crime"?

    In any event, if there was racism involved in this - and who knows if there was or wasn't - it should be brought out and addressed as with any other similar crimes. And if not, let's not look for it.

    That applies to all spectrums of the "rainbow", so to speak.

    fuck me running ! you guys read about a white guy or even just part white attacking a black person and it's a racist hate crime but turn it around and it's just a crime by "people" pleeeaaasse ! gimmi a friggin break.

    Godfather.
    Seriously, that's what you got out of my post? Not gonna tell anyone else how to react but I'd rather reserve judgment and not chomp at the bit one way or the other, whether it's Trayvon or the folks in this story or the unarmed kid who was shot on the freeway out here or....you get the gist.

    Sheesh, man. Guess I best brush up on my communication skills!
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056

    Editor Denis Finley is saying the paper thought it was a simple assault and they don't cover that kind of crime. “The Factor” does not believe Mr. Finley. He had to know that two of his employees were attacked by a mob.

    We believe Finley avoided covering the story because of its racial component. The paper simply tried to cover it up. Now consider what would have happened if a mob of white men descended on a car and beat up a black man and a black woman. I don't have to say anymore. You know what would happen.

    O'REILLY: So let's recap. It looks like a cover up by the "Virginian Pilot" newspaper. It looks like the Norfolk Police are confused. Was it a hate crime or not? The Justice Department has so far ignored our request for comments but Attorney General Holder has a responsibility to look into the situation and we will hold Holder to that.

    So he thinks the police and the newspaper are in cahoots in a conspiracy to....what? 'Cover up the racist component'? wtf? Why would they do that? Because it's part of the police and newspapers agenda to make it seem like racism only goes one way? Seriously, whats the point of that?

    So O'Reilly takes the statements from the police and the newspaper and says 'I don't believe them, they're lying'.....then extrapolates that assumption into borderline slanderous conspiracy accusations; totally unsubstantiated, aside from an alleged clerical error....The newspaper was likely also told the hate-crime checkbox was a clerical error (if they even bothered looking into it after speaking to their employees), so for them to say they don't normally cover those stories is a legit statement. The interview the frickin victim, and he says nothing about a hate crime, or coverup conspiracy. Saying 'the police are confused' is more bullshit - they said it was a clerical error. No confusion in that statement.

    Such typical bush-league fox journalism. Nothing sensational to sell your show with Billy boy? Make something up. Enflaming racial tension is as stupid as it is dangerous. Unreal. Based on what I read in the article, I can't say I have much more respect for anyone propagating this angle. If it turns out to be true, fine, report it in your usual grade 3 sensationalist fashion.....but until then, stop with the speculation.
  • usamamasan1usamamasan1 Posts: 4,695
    You know, mobs beating innocent people

    "do it for Treyvon Martin"

    Fucking losers

    http://hamptonroads.com/2012/05/warrant ... ournalists

    Also, it's getting deeper with the thuggery.


    On April 20, the Chicago Sun-Times reported that two black teenagers in Oak Park, Ill., attacked a 19-year-old because “he was so upset about the Trayvon Martin case that he beat up a man because he was white.”

    “If the races were reversed, you’d see Attorney General Holder holding a national press conference. In the eyes of the DOJ, it’s some people, not everybody [who] civil rights laws protect. Whites excluded,” said Adams.

    The Gainesville Sun reported that on April 9, a 27-year-old white male was attacked by “five to eight” black males who shouted “Trayvon” before attacking him and leaving him with “permanent disfigurement to the left side of his face.”

    And Fox News reported April 5 that a 78-year-old white citizen of Toledo, Ohio, was the victim of a group assault, with the attackers allegedly yelling, “This is for Trayvon.”

    Just yesterday, a newspaper reported in Virginia that “wave after wave of young men surged forward to take turns punching and kicking their victim,” an employee of the newspaper.
  • Godfather. wrote:
    fuck me running ! you guys read about a white guy or even just part white attacking a black person and it's a racist hate crime but turn it around and it's just a crime by "people" pleeeaaasse ! gimmi a friggin break.

    Godfather.

    actually, GF, it's usually the media is what paints white on black violence as racist/hate crime. no one wants to touch a story with a ten foot pole when it's black on white crime. that's just how society works right now.

    but in reality, it IS actually a bit easier to jump to the conclusion of it being racist if it's white beating on black, for historical reasons, and because I believe it's simply a much rarer occurence. I would tend to think that black on black crime is way more prevelant than black on white crime. it's the same up in canada with aboriginals. I've never heard of a group of aboriginals attacking a couple white guys. But I wouldn't be at all surprised by a group of racist white guys attacking some aboriginals. it's just the way it is.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Godfather. wrote:
    fuck me running ! you guys read about a white guy or even just part white attacking a black person and it's a racist hate crime but turn it around and it's just a crime by "people" pleeeaaasse ! gimmi a friggin break.

    Godfather.

    actually, GF, it's usually the media is what paints white on black violence as racist/hate crime. no one wants to touch a story with a ten foot pole when it's black on white crime. that's just how society works right now.

    but in reality, it IS actually a bit easier to jump to the conclusion of it being racist if it's white beating on black, for historical reasons, and because I believe it's simply a much rarer occurence. I would tend to think that black on black crime is way more prevelant than black on white crime. it's the same up in canada with aboriginals. I've never heard of a group of aboriginals attacking a couple white guys. But I wouldn't be at all surprised by a group of racist white guys attacking some aboriginals. it's just the way it is.

    HFD yes you nailed it with your reply man I couldn't agree more.
    Hedonist please excuse my lack of comunication skills :mrgreen: I must admit I am a skimmer when I read and I react off the hip from time to time.

    Godfather.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    australia. 8-)

    the birthplace of rupert murdoch!? ... that's not gonna work ... :lol:
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    So he thinks the police and the newspaper are in cahoots in a conspiracy to....what? 'Cover up the racist component'? wtf? Why would they do that? Because it's part of the police and newspapers agenda to make it seem like racism only goes one way? Seriously, whats the point of that?

    So O'Reilly takes the statements from the police and the newspaper and says 'I don't believe them, they're lying'.....then extrapolates that assumption into borderline slanderous conspiracy accusations; totally unsubstantiated, aside from an alleged clerical error....The newspaper was likely also told the hate-crime checkbox was a clerical error (if they even bothered looking into it after speaking to their employees), so for them to say they don't normally cover those stories is a legit statement. The interview the frickin victim, and he says nothing about a hate crime, or coverup conspiracy. Saying 'the police are confused' is more bullshit - they said it was a clerical error. No confusion in that statement.

    Such typical bush-league fox journalism. Nothing sensational to sell your show with Billy boy? Make something up. Enflaming racial tension is as stupid as it is dangerous. Unreal. Based on what I read in the article, I can't say I have much more respect for anyone propagating this angle. If it turns out to be true, fine, report it in your usual grade 3 sensationalist fashion.....but until then, stop with the speculation.
    You provided a possible answer to your initial question in your second paragraphed (I underlined it for your viewing pleasure). Maybe the paper was trying to avoid stirring the racial pot, given all the Trayvon madness that's going on.

    Anyhow, O'Reilly isn't news. As much as I used to enjoy it, it's just a "newsy" talk show. As I said before, there's not nearly enough information in this "article" to figure out what really happened. That said, the fact that hate crime was indicated in the initial police report and then later removed is enough to make this case worth talking about (by "Billy boy" and us). It's pretty funny that, considering the nature of the crime (insofar as what we know about it), you're willing to swallow the "clerical error" excuse by the police.
  • MotoDCMotoDC Posts: 947
    Interesting, when you google "Trayvon revenge attacks in chicago" or "in gainesville", you get tons of hits, but they're all from sites like:

    occidentaldissent.com
    violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com
    blackmediascoop.com
    stormfront.org
    etc

    Which leads a person to one of two conclusions, generally (I'll wager) depending on their own biases. Either:
    1) This is just sensationalism on the part of off-center "news" sources, or
    2) There is a massive cover-up of this kind of crime going on.

    What a world we live in.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,493
    Who the hell cares if it was a hate crime??? It was an assault on two PEOPLE by PEOPLE.

    End of!!! :evil:

    Agree.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    polaris_x wrote:
    australia. 8-)

    the birthplace of rupert murdoch!? ... that's not gonna work ... :lol:


    but.. but... hes american now... and besides how is that worse that nickelback being canadian? :P :lol:
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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    but.. but... hes american now... and besides how is that worse that nickelback being canadian? :P :lol:

    you HAD to go there didn't ya!?? ... seriously ... low blow ... :lol::lol:
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    polaris_x wrote:
    but.. but... hes american now... and besides how is that worse that nickelback being canadian? :P :lol:

    you HAD to go there didn't ya!?? ... seriously ... low blow ... :lol::lol:


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  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    wait, were these reporters wearing hoodies????
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