Tourists to be banned from pot cafes in Netherlands, WTF?

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    redrock wrote:
    Unfortunately, this kind of 'tourism' was starting to get a bit out of control. A lot of the 'tourists' do not have the same kind of lifestyle attitude (for lack of better words) of the Dutch and it was starting to cause problems.

    I have seen Amsterdam change so much over the years as more and more young people came just for this purpose (and the red light district!). A bit like the lager louts and their stag week-ends in Prague, etc. All of this is good income, but also 'destruction'.

    Though the ban starts in the southern provinces so there is still a bit of time to visit A'dam! ;)

    The same thing happened to the Haight Ashbury district in San Francisco. By the time I found a place I could afford in the upper Haight in 1971 the whole scene had changed there. Everybody and their brother and sister had moved in but the flowers in their hair began to wilt rather quickly. My daily walk down to Cole and Carl to catch the N Street car could be a real hassle some days. Talk about people with tombstones in their eyes! The seventies were an awful decade for that district (and much of the city as a whole). Places like The I-Beam helped make it interesting again in the eighties but by the early nineties a sort of pseudo hippie facade had taken over the place with lots of touristy "flower power" shops moving in. It's kind of a mixed bag these days.

    So it will be interesting to see what happens to Amsterdam. It wouldn't surprise me to hear of several changes similar to what happened to the Haight.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    this law will be taken to the european court of human rights because it goes against the competition rules from my reading of it.

    i think it will get overturned as the e.u. is built on the freedom of movement
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,946
    So I cant smoke dope in the Netherlands???

    OH NO!!!
    Is my life even worth living???

    How will I survive???
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    So I cant smoke dope in the Netherlands???

    OH NO!!!
    Is my life even worth living???

    How will I survive???
    drive your truck and obey the laws, speedy mccready
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    if history shows me what i know to be true fact because i have eyes, ears and can understand
    i'd think the netherlands were bombed to bits during wwII by the germans
    interesting...
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,946
    Cracks me up...
    That people get upset over this...
    People who live thousands of miles away...Are upset cuz they cant get on a plane and smoke dope in the Netherlands????
    People believe that tourism will collapse over there??? You are telling me the only reason people go to The Netherlands, is to sit in a coffee shop and smoke dope?

    Put down the fucking bongs people.....

    hehehe
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    Cracks me up...
    That people get upset over this...
    People who live thousands of miles away...Are upset cuz they cant get on a plane and smoke dope in the Netherlands????
    People believe that tourism will collapse over there??? You are telling me the only reason people go to The Netherlands, is to sit in a coffee shop and smoke dope?

    Put down the fucking bongs people.....

    hehehe
    again... drive your truck
    we all know you and godfather dismiss, dislike, and disassociate w/ free thinking earth loving hippy types
    aren't you supposed to be in L.A. tomorrow?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    Cracks me up...
    That people get upset over this...
    People who live thousands of miles away...Are upset cuz they cant get on a plane and smoke dope in the Netherlands????
    People believe that tourism will collapse over there??? You are telling me the only reason people go to The Netherlands, is to sit in a coffee shop and smoke dope?

    Put down the fucking bongs people.....

    hehehe

    Yes.
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,946
    satansbed wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    Cracks me up...
    That people get upset over this...
    People who live thousands of miles away...Are upset cuz they cant get on a plane and smoke dope in the Netherlands????
    People believe that tourism will collapse over there??? You are telling me the only reason people go to The Netherlands, is to sit in a coffee shop and smoke dope?

    Put down the fucking bongs people.....

    hehehe

    Yes.
    Bullshit...
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    satansbed wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    Cracks me up...
    That people get upset over this...
    People who live thousands of miles away...Are upset cuz they cant get on a plane and smoke dope in the Netherlands????
    People believe that tourism will collapse over there??? You are telling me the only reason people go to The Netherlands, is to sit in a coffee shop and smoke dope?

    Put down the fucking bongs people.....

    hehehe

    Yes.
    Bullshit...
    speedy, did you know the diamond trade does not generate as much money as pot seeds does? figure it out
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • mysticweed
    mysticweed Posts: 3,710
    edited April 2012
    i went in 2010
    to the "Rockery"
    honestly the weed, "laughing buddha" wasn't any better than what i (used to) smoke :lol:
    and my brownies are much better than their "space cakes"
    but it was fun
    Post edited by mysticweed on
    fuck 'em if they can't take a joke

    "what a long, strange trip it's been"
  • satansbed
    satansbed Posts: 2,139
    satansbedSPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

    Yes.
    Bullshit...[/quote]

    what else is there to do in Holland?

    im sure its a good place and all, but other than weed what is amsterdamn's Unique Selling Point as a holiday destination
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    satansbed wrote:
    what else is there to do in Holland?

    im sure its a good place and all, but other than weed what is amsterdamn's Unique Selling Point as a holiday destination
    tip toe through tulips? go see a windmill spin? go to the redlight district?

    (redlight district) = um
    many a men been there already
    im not really interested in sliding on in
    although tell that to my john roger :twisted:

    http://youtu.be/zcSlcNfThUA - tip toe through the tulips
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,675
    chadwick wrote:
    satansbed wrote:
    what else is there to do in Holland?

    im sure its a good place and all, but other than weed what is amsterdamn's Unique Selling Point as a holiday destination
    tip toe through tulips? go see a windmill spin? go to the redlight district?

    (redlight district) = um
    many a men been there already
    im not really interested in sliding on in
    although tell that to my john roger :twisted:

    http://youtu.be/zcSlcNfThUA - tip toe through the tulips

    Tiny Tim! I love Tiny Tim!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    brianlux wrote:
    Tiny Tim! I love Tiny Tim!
    Me too! Good 70s-era memories there.

    I don't think the general response to this has been the filling of one's bongwater with their tears, Mr. Speedy McSourpuss :mrgreen: Seems like it's more about the business/tourism side of it.

    When I visited 25 years ago, I didn't even hit the cafes. Moseyed around the red-light district, had a stupendously delicious and hospitable dinner, and toured the Anne Frank house (more valuable to me than anything else there).

    I also tried on oversized wooden clogs.

    (For what it's worth, there are many issues we chime in on, even if they're taking place across the globe. Locale doesn't determine opinion.)
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,946
    No need to get bent out of shape folks....
    Its nothing personal....

    I just have a feeling that 98.345% of the tourists who visit the Netherlands....
    Are not going there just so they can smoke dope in some outdoor cafe....
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Thing is, I don't think anyone here's bent out of shape ;)
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,772
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    Cracks me up...
    That people get upset over this...
    People who live thousands of miles away...Are upset cuz they cant get on a plane and smoke dope in the Netherlands????
    People believe that tourism will collapse over there??? You are telling me the only reason people go to The Netherlands, is to sit in a coffee shop and smoke dope?

    Put down the fucking bongs people.....

    hehehe
    At least we don't spend time dismissing other people's discussions for no apparent reason. Yours is not a very worthwhile post, I gotta say. And for me the issue is whether or not a place can create laws to treat people in a discriminatory manner, and that is a pretty worthwhile point of discussion to me! I think you're missing the poibt a bit.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    No need to get bent out of shape folks....
    Its nothing personal....

    I just have a feeling that 98.345% of the tourists who visit the Netherlands....
    Are not going there just so they can smoke dope in some outdoor cafe....
    got any credible source(s) to back up your feelings?
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,946
    chadwick wrote:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    No need to get bent out of shape folks....
    Its nothing personal....

    I just have a feeling that 98.345% of the tourists who visit the Netherlands....
    Are not going there just so they can smoke dope in some outdoor cafe....
    got any credible source(s) to back up your feelings?
    Ten percent of tourists who visit Holland do so exclusively for the pot. The cafes do $2.6 billion in business a year, generating $503 million in tax revenue.

    Why is the government shutting all this down?
    The conservative-led government elected 18 months ago is sick of the country's reputation as a haven for drug tourists. The city of Maastricht, bordered by Germany and Belgium, was being overwhelmed by tourists driving in strictly to buy marijuana. And production for the cafes led to a thriving black market, turning Holland into a major drug supplier for the rest of Europe, Ard van der Steur, a Parliament member and a spokesman for the ruling People's Party for Freedom and Democracy, tells The New York Times. "We have created an incredible criminal industry that we need to get rid of."

    There ya go....
    I was wrong....
    90% of the tourists arent visiting strictly for the dope.....Not 98%
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....

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