hi jeff
you probably didn't read my post above this
that lay everything that happened in iraq
squarely at the feet of the thief of state, gw bush
i believe she was railroaded and royally fucked by the very government for whom she was in hell to serve
afw
peace my republican friend
gayle
Would you also apply this logic to WWII and say that nobody except Hitler deserved punishment? The einsatzgruppen (execution squads) who roamed Eastern Europe murdering Jews and dumping their bodies in mass graves were all innocent of any crime simply because they happened to have superiors and obeyed orders?
Sorry, but the excuse that "I was just following orders" was dismissed at Nuremberg and holds no credibility whatsoever.
Lt. Calley should have been imprisoned for life for what he did at My Lai in Vietnam, and Lyndsey England should also be banged up for a long time.
If people who 'merely follow orders' are all innocent, then Americans should apply that same logic across the board and release every single prisoner from Guantanamo Bay and every prison in Iraq and Afghanistan today.
Or is it only American murderers and torturers who deserve this special consideration?
it's hardly the same
what she did in abu ghraib and what you have described
everything that happened at abu ghraib was transferred wholesale from guantanamo
lynndie england was a pawn and a scapegoat for the bush-cheney-rumsfeld trio comico
she was a fucking teenager
she was pregnant by a superior officer
more often than not they were on lock-down
there was no electricity
no running water
honestly, i am not for torture
and i have been a democrat since 1988
but when i first saw the pictures, i'm like wtf
panties on someone's head?
making them play with themselves then pointing and laughing - oh my
dogs barking
naked pyramids
i guess there were some worse somewhere that we didn't see
my astonishment was at the aforementioned b-c-r trio feigning shock
oh we cannot believe this kind of thing happens
please
i tried to volunteer to help England and her family when the trial was going to be at Ft Bragg
but they moved her to texas - hmmmm texas? again please
It is important to understand that what Ali Shalal experienced was part of a routine process of torture, applied systematically to those arrested. Many of his companions in Abu Ghraib died as a result of torture or were executed upon their release so that they would not reveal the gruesome horrors and atrocities committed on the orders of the Bush administration.Also of significance, as confirmed by his testimony, was the fact that Israeli "civilians" were involved in assisting the US prison interrogators.
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it's hardly the same
what she did in abu ghraib and what you have described
"what a long, strange trip it's been"
"what a long, strange trip it's been"
of course they were trying to kill you darlin'.. you invaded their country. :roll:
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=31005
It is important to understand that what Ali Shalal experienced was part of a routine process of torture, applied systematically to those arrested. Many of his companions in Abu Ghraib died as a result of torture or were executed upon their release so that they would not reveal the gruesome horrors and atrocities committed on the orders of the Bush administration.Also of significance, as confirmed by his testimony, was the fact that Israeli "civilians" were involved in assisting the US prison interrogators.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Yeah, pretty sure it's a bit more than just that, but hey, whatever sounds good.
so it doesn't contribute?
remorseless torture of arabs holds a lot of weight in the arab world...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
:fp:
not much. but it sure makes a good story. Plus, she is suffering from a mental condition and can't be held responsible for her actions, right?
do you remember what the arab response was when the abuse scandal broke?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Yep, just an excuse to do what they wanted anyhow.
Look, I'm not saying it's good, but this is hardly a big deal compared to the real issues. It's a symptom though, on both sides.