My commute and driving is minimal. Same for my husband.
Why should we be fucked by higher prices? We're responsible with our resources and our choices.
Raise prices on those who aren't. PLEASE.
What about those who have quite the distance to get to work? Not sure about other areas but in LA, many - MANY - are fucked by time on the road. Fucks with the mind, stress, car. Wallet too? Why are people with electric cars using the roads - HOV lanes welcoming them - but don't have to pay anything for that use?
Surely there is some sort of common sense medium.
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I feel thoroughly bludgeoned. Not to worry, I expected that would happen. But I stand by my words. We need to move out of being a car-driving society and making gas cheaper will not help. I don't want to artificially increase the cost of living. I'm not in a high income bracket- in fact probably below average in America- but I'm willing to give it up and look to the future for the benefit of the planet including future generations of people. I'm well meaning in my words, honestly, I mean no harm by my words. I wish no one ill. And I really am for happiness and well being and longevity for all us- animals and critters alike.
"Don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth. And to hope."
B, that wasn't personal toward you - I hope you realize that.
I'm not willing to give up driving for my own reasons - some selfish, some logical.
It's not so simple depending on location, health, many other factors...and really, is that going to happen? I mean, hell, self-driving cars are on the horizon. New cars come with everything to keep you connected. Shit's not going anywhere.
Gas should be more expensive not less. I'm not kidding.
the problem with raising gas prices, even for good reasons, is that with higher gas prices you pretty much raise the praise of all goods and many services. we still deliver lots of good services via truck and all those prices, especially food, would rise as do gas prices. agree though that low gas prices aren't always a good thing either.
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Gas should be more expensive not less. I'm not kidding.
the problem with raising gas prices, even for good reasons, is that with higher gas prices you pretty much raise the praise of all goods and many services. we still deliver lots of good services via truck and all those prices, especially food, would rise as do gas prices. agree though that low gas prices aren't always a good thing either.
That's a good point, pjhawks. I'm just not sure how we can convince Americans to cut back on there driving. Almost everyone agrees more driving is environmentally unsound and yet we don't seem to be doing less driving and SUV sales are as high or higher than ever.
One thing that would help would be to revitalize railroad service in the U.S. Rail transportation is proven to move more pounds of goods per unit of fuel than any other form of transportation (i.e. more energy efficient) and yet our railroads in America are a mess.
"Don't give in to the lies. Don't give in to the fear. Hold on to the truth. And to hope."
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10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
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9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
In Canada the average price per litre right now is $1.00. Americans have it pretty good considering the exchange for our dollar. Gas is practically free in the US.
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Why should we be fucked by higher prices? We're responsible with our resources and our choices.
Raise prices on those who aren't. PLEASE.
What about those who have quite the distance to get to work? Not sure about other areas but in LA, many - MANY - are fucked by time on the road. Fucks with the mind, stress, car. Wallet too? Why are people with electric cars using the roads - HOV lanes welcoming them - but don't have to pay anything for that use?
Surely there is some sort of common sense medium.
I'm not willing to give up driving for my own reasons - some selfish, some logical.
It's not so simple depending on location, health, many other factors...and really, is that going to happen? I mean, hell, self-driving cars are on the horizon. New cars come with everything to keep you connected. Shit's not going anywhere.
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Should be dropping even more
One thing that would help would be to revitalize railroad service in the U.S. Rail transportation is proven to move more pounds of goods per unit of fuel than any other form of transportation (i.e. more energy efficient) and yet our railroads in America are a mess.
1995 San Francisco
San Jose
San Diego 2 shows
2003 Missoula
2005 Missoula
2006 Denver 2 shows with Tom Petty
Gorge 2 shows
2009 Utah
LA1
LA2
2012 Missoula : Meet and Greet : "Instant Classic show"
2013 Portland
Spokane
2018 Missoula
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5/21/10- NYC
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7/19/13- Wrigley
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10/22/13- Philly, PA
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4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
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1995 San Francisco
San Jose
San Diego 2 shows
2003 Missoula
2005 Missoula
2006 Denver 2 shows with Tom Petty
Gorge 2 shows
2009 Utah
LA1
LA2
2012 Missoula : Meet and Greet : "Instant Classic show"
2013 Portland
Spokane
2018 Missoula
2016: Lexington and Wrigley 1
even if I look and act really crazy.
(that's what she said)
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San Jose
San Diego 2 shows
2003 Missoula
2005 Missoula
2006 Denver 2 shows with Tom Petty
Gorge 2 shows
2009 Utah
LA1
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2012 Missoula : Meet and Greet : "Instant Classic show"
2013 Portland
Spokane
2018 Missoula
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1995 San Francisco
San Jose
San Diego 2 shows
2003 Missoula
2005 Missoula
2006 Denver 2 shows with Tom Petty
Gorge 2 shows
2009 Utah
LA1
LA2
2012 Missoula : Meet and Greet : "Instant Classic show"
2013 Portland
Spokane
2018 Missoula
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
1995 San Francisco
San Jose
San Diego 2 shows
2003 Missoula
2005 Missoula
2006 Denver 2 shows with Tom Petty
Gorge 2 shows
2009 Utah
LA1
LA2
2012 Missoula : Meet and Greet : "Instant Classic show"
2013 Portland
Spokane
2018 Missoula
2016: Lexington and Wrigley 1
Americans have it pretty good considering the exchange for our dollar.
Gas is practically free in the US.
Good thing I have a short commute!