Email from Alpine Valley

81

seems pretty crappy of them to book a room today at rate A and if X happens, charge you rate B :roll:

Dead Man Walking

As phenomenal as PJ20 was last year, I have zero interest in doing it again. Keep it OTOTO and maintain the specialness of that weekend. Doing an annual weekend "festival" is super lame.

81

Dead Man Walking wrote:

As phenomenal as PJ20 was last year, I have zero interest in doing it again. Keep it OTOTO and maintain the specialness of that weekend. Doing an annual weekend "festival" is super lame.

but this time...you could hit the tailgate.

ten2o3

I would love to see PJ at Alpine again, or anywhere in the US for that matter... But Kiss & Motley Crue are playing Alpine the weekend after Labor Day. I find it hard they would have shows 2 weeks in a row considering they only have maybe 5 a year. Hopefully Alpine is turning things around to host more shows cause I love the venue.

81

ten2o3 wrote:

I would love to see PJ at Alpine again, or anywhere in the US for that matter... But Kiss & Motley Crue are playing Alpine the weekend after Labor Day. I find it hard they would have shows 2 weeks in a row considering they only have maybe 5 a year. Hopefully Alpine is turning things around to host more shows cause I love the venue.

i thought kiss retired?

Sheets Of Clay

ten2o3 wrote:

I would love to see PJ at Alpine again, or anywhere in the US for that matter... But Kiss & Motley Crue are playing Alpine the weekend after Labor Day. I find it hard they would have shows 2 weeks in a row considering they only have maybe 5 a year. Hopefully Alpine is turning things around to host more shows cause I love the venue.

They're already doing that earlier in the summer:
Phish - June 30 & July 1
DMB - July 6 & 7

quimby20

You don't have to beleive it or like it but one of the sheriff's I talked to last year stated they already booked the venue for the next 3 years. The venue made more money from this weekend then they did all summer. It is going to happen. I also posted several weeks ago that there were still rooms at the Hampton in Elkhorn. There is 2 rooms left. $138.00/night. I have rooms reserved there already.

JTH

Indifference71 wrote:

Yeah, I can see Alpine being a pain in the ass to get in/out of. It's hard enough to just get in/out of there in a car! I'm selfishly hoping they dont play alpine labor day weekend since I'll be in Vegas for my bachelor party. Hopefully we'll get a couple shows either at the UC or Alpine at some point this year...

Well, if it's YOUR bachelor party, maybe you can call an audible on the location.

JTH

81 wrote:

seems pretty crappy of them to book a room today at rate A and if X happens, charge you rate B :roll:

You got that right.

But at least they're stating this right up front instead of waiting until the last minute.

Indifference71

JTH wrote:

Indifference71 wrote:

Yeah, I can see Alpine being a pain in the ass to get in/out of. It's hard enough to just get in/out of there in a car! I'm selfishly hoping they dont play alpine labor day weekend since I'll be in Vegas for my bachelor party. Hopefully we'll get a couple shows either at the UC or Alpine at some point this year...

Well, if it's YOUR bachelor party, maybe you can call an audible on the location.

Very true. But a lot of us already booked flights and we have a penthouse booked at planet hollywood. Plus, it's hard to count on this actually happening.

Wma31394

Sheets Of Clay wrote:

ten2o3 wrote:

I would love to see PJ at Alpine again, or anywhere in the US for that matter... But Kiss & Motley Crue are playing Alpine the weekend after Labor Day. I find it hard they would have shows 2 weeks in a row considering they only have maybe 5 a year. Hopefully Alpine is turning things around to host more shows cause I love the venue.

They're already doing that earlier in the summer:
Phish - June 30 & July 1
DMB - July 6 & 7

They have done back to back weekend shows for years..doesnt factor into any planning.

shep

81 wrote:

seems pretty crappy of them to book a room today at rate A and if X happens, charge you rate B :roll:

that is the dumbest thing i've ever heard.

any hotel i've ever made a reservation at, you get the rate you booked at when you booked the hotel.

For 3 years running I've had my hotel in Austin for ACL at $110/night - when people walked up looking for a room they were charging $350/night... my rate didn't get changed from the day it was booked.

talk about gouging.

81

shep wrote:

81 wrote:

seems pretty crappy of them to book a room today at rate A and if X happens, charge you rate B :roll:

that is the dumbest thing i've ever heard.

any hotel i've ever made a reservation at, you get the rate you booked at when you booked the hotel.

For 3 years running I've had my hotel in Austin for ACL at $110/night - when people walked up looking for a room they were charging $350/night... my rate didn't get changed from the day it was booked.

talk about gouging.

exactly....early bird gets the worm.

i'd be on the phone to a manager if my rate changed.

Neosurfer79

I have my reservation, but have heard rumors it could be Jimmy Buffet labor day weekend, but I still have my fingers crossed!

dougfloyd

Neosurfer79 wrote:

I have my reservation, but have heard rumors it could be Jimmy Buffet labor day weekend, but I still have my fingers crossed!

Somebody else on here found this link that shows Jimmy Buffett in Virginia on Labor Day weekend: http://www.razorgator.com/tickets/concerts/rock-pop/jimmy-buffett-tickets/

Not sure if any of this is true but I'm still holding out hope that the rumor that PJ signed up for 3 years at Alpine is legit. And yeah, the changing reservation rates thing is a bunch of crap but after dealing with the staff at the resort last year I'm not surprised. But we split the room cost among 4 people and it was worth it to not have to worry about driving anywhere after the show. Although it did make me miss out on tailgating, couldn't easily walk from the hotel around the front to the parking lot :evil:

pjsteelerfan

dougfloyd wrote:

Neosurfer79 wrote:

I have my reservation, but have heard rumors it could be Jimmy Buffet labor day weekend, but I still have my fingers crossed!

Somebody else on here found this link that shows Jimmy Buffett in Virginia on Labor Day weekend: http://www.razorgator.com/tickets/concerts/rock-pop/jimmy-buffett-tickets/

Not sure if any of this is true but I'm still holding out hope that the rumor that PJ signed up for 3 years at Alpine is legit. And yeah, the changing reservation rates thing is a bunch of crap but after dealing with the staff at the resort last year I'm not surprised. But we split the room cost among 4 people and it was worth it to not have to worry about driving anywhere after the show. Although it did make me miss out on tailgating, couldn't easily walk from the hotel around the front to the parking lot :evil:

Way back in the days of the AET radio show, didn't Tim mention they were looking into making the weekend a yearly thing?

dougfloyd

pjsteelerfan wrote:

Way back in the days of the AET radio show, didn't Tim mention they were looking into making the weekend a yearly thing?

I can't remember. I wish the AET show was still on every week! I'm not sure they would want to do this every year but it does sound reasonable that they might have signed up for a 3 year deal in order to get their way on some things for PJ20.

EdsonNascimento

dougfloyd wrote:

pjsteelerfan wrote:

Way back in the days of the AET radio show, didn't Tim mention they were looking into making the weekend a yearly thing?

I can't remember. I wish the AET show was still on every week! I'm not sure they would want to do this every year but it does sound reasonable that they might have signed up for a 3 year deal in order to get their way on some things for PJ20.

This is the part I'm not getting - what special stuff did they have that they NEEDED to sign a 3 year agreement to get? The place is clearly set up for the Museum, VIP, etc. The extra stages would seem to be something they do very easily if the bands are willing to foot the bill. Tailgating is standard (or Buffet wouldn't go there ).

So, what exact accomodations were made for the weekend that are so out of the ordinary that AV would make them sign a 3 year agreement? While I've never been to AV before, nothing they did seemed that out of the ordinary.

The only thing I could see is they said - don't worry, we'll get 30K there if you let us do a 2 day festival, and if we don't we'll make it up to you. But, considering AV was basically closed last summer EXCEPT for PJ it would seem the other way around (AV would be bending over backward to get this sort of thing there in the first place rather than forcing the act to sign multi-year agreements).

I have no idea if this is happening or not. Just this line of thinking which has been there from the beginnning never made any sense to me.

81

most shows don't start until 7-7:30pm. they had the venue doors open at noon. that would be something different.

i doubt many concerts have a muesum or bands playing along the back wall starting at noon.

not to say that would warrent a three year deal, but it could help grease the wheels.

EdsonNascimento

81 wrote:

most shows don't start until 7-7:30pm. they had the venue doors open at noon. that would be something different.

i doubt many concerts have a muesum or bands playing along the back wall starting at noon.

not to say that would warrent a three year deal, but it could help grease the wheels.

So because they had a festival at an abandoned venue they need to sign their name in blood?

And they set up curtains?

Hmmm. Ok. I'm giving PJ's manager more credit than that.

Again, it seemed to be AV needed it more than PJ did. I guess they did have to mow the lawn last summer b/c of this.....