forced to marry her rapist,16 yaer old teen commits suicide

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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    ugh... men are fucks.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    Men (Man) are supposed to protect women and children ...
    why don't they?
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    pandora wrote:
    Men (Man) are supposed to protect women and children ...
    why don't they?


    cause theyre fucks.... and its a little sexist that you think women and children need protecting by men
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • unlost dogsunlost dogs Greater Boston Posts: 12,553
    I'm trying to recall the case that was all over the news last summer / fall _ very similar, but I don't think it was in Morocco.

    I can't even begin to understand the kind of thinking that supports this viewpoint. Or society that institutes it as a law.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    ugh... men are fucks.

    ohhh that's it Cate lump us all together. :lol:

    Godfather.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    time to boycott everything moroccan i say
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    pandora wrote:
    Men (Man) are supposed to protect women and children ...
    why don't they?


    cause theyre fucks.... and its a little sexist that you think women and children need protecting by men
    pretty obvious they do cate

    its a man's world ... still

    this subject a damn good example
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,191
    Let's elect Santorum so she'll only be forced to have the man's baby.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    pandora wrote:
    Men (Man) are supposed to protect women and children ...
    why don't they?

    pandora wrote:
    [

    cause theyre fucks.... and its a little sexist that you think women and children need protecting by men
    pretty obvious they do cate

    its a man's world ... still

    this subject a damn good example

    I have to disagree, if a woman wants to protect herself she most certainly can. Women are play an intregal part in this world it only appears that it's a man's. That is according to the one and only James Brown. :D

    peace
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    Sad, too bad she didn't kill the guy instead.
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    g under p wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    Men (Man) are supposed to protect women and children ...
    why don't they?

    pandora wrote:
    [

    cause theyre fucks.... and its a little sexist that you think women and children need protecting by men
    pretty obvious they do cate

    its a man's world ... still

    this subject a damn good example

    I have to disagree, if a woman wants to protect herself she most certainly can. Women are play an intregal part in this world it only appears that it's a man's. That is according to the one and only James Brown. :D

    peace
    We are talking about societies here right? How about this one on topic ...
    how about here even in ours ... :?

    and James Brown he's a bit slap happy maybe not the best example on how not to
    womanize a woman
  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Let's elect Santorum so she'll only be forced to have the man's baby.

    well played :lol:

    Cate...I don't think it is far to call that person a man simply because he has genitals. He is no man in my book
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    Sad, too bad she didn't kill the guy instead.
    or her brothers kill the guy
  • polaris_x wrote:
    time to boycott everything moroccan i say

    This is obviously ridiculous, as is somehow linking this to Santorum :roll: (I know that wasn't you).

    This is a completely stupid "tradition" that once again shows why ruling via religious doctrine is not only silly, but dangerous. Does that make all Moroccan's bad? Absolutely not. Just the ruling folks that have not seen fit to change something so obviously amoral because of some religious belief.

    Hopefully, this poor little girl did not die in vain, and there is a holiday in her honor in Morocco some day (not that I would ever know). So sad.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    This is obviously ridiculous, as is somehow linking this to Santorum :roll: (I know that wasn't you).

    This is a completely stupid "tradition" that once again shows why ruling via religious doctrine is not only silly, but dangerous. Does that make all Moroccan's bad? Absolutely not. Just the ruling folks that have not seen fit to change something so obviously amoral because of some religious belief.

    Hopefully, this poor little girl did not die in vain, and there is a holiday in her honor in Morocco some day (not that I would ever know). So sad.

    hey ... if some people can boycott french products because they don't want to bomb innocent people ... i should be able to boycott a country that still employs a judicial system that would force this girl down this path ...

    how do you hope to constitute change in morocco then? ... boycotts and impacts to the economy are known to work ...
  • polaris_x wrote:
    This is obviously ridiculous, as is somehow linking this to Santorum :roll: (I know that wasn't you).

    This is a completely stupid "tradition" that once again shows why ruling via religious doctrine is not only silly, but dangerous. Does that make all Moroccan's bad? Absolutely not. Just the ruling folks that have not seen fit to change something so obviously amoral because of some religious belief.

    Hopefully, this poor little girl did not die in vain, and there is a holiday in her honor in Morocco some day (not that I would ever know). So sad.

    hey ... if some people can boycott french products because they don't want to bomb innocent people ... i should be able to boycott a country that still employs a judicial system that would force this girl down this path ...

    how do you hope to constitute change in morocco then? ... boycotts and impacts to the economy are known to work ...

    Oh. You can do whatever you want. Boycott Morocco. I don't care. I actually thought you were being facetious and trying to make a comment about how this type of rule ends up in racially motivated tirades. So, my bad on the interpretation.

    Unfortunately, boycotts don't work on countries like that because it winds up hurting the general populace, some (maybe many) of who may not agree with current policy. The leaders will still get theirs.

    But, do what you want.

    And boycotting France is a good policy all around. No add'l reasons needed. :lol:
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    This is a completely stupid "tradition" that once again shows why ruling via religious doctrine is not only silly, but dangerous. Does that make all Moroccan's bad? Absolutely not. Just the ruling folks that have not seen fit to change something so obviously amoral because of some religious belief.

    Hopefully, this poor little girl did not die in vain, and there is a holiday in her honor in Morocco some day (not that I would ever know). So sad.

    I understand that this law (which is also mentioned in the Old Testament!) is rarely applied in Morocco. It is ancient and, it would seem, difficult to call upon as both families need to agree. This does not happen often and, if it does, it will mainly be amongst the less educated or those living in more remote areas.

    This said, even once is one time too many, whether this marriage has as tragic endings as this one. What is needed (and an ongoing 'project') is education, education, education. Whilst women can be 'nothing' in this country, they also hold positions of power or influence and are working very hard to change the situation of women there (albeit they also need to 'comply' to certain rules/tradition, whether of behaviour, modesty etc.).

    My friend Hamida (who is moroccan) is not only a judge in Belgium but also a women's rights advocate/family lawyer in Morocco. Foundations are being laid, but it's a very, very difficult road ahead - EDUCATION! Of women AND men!
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    pandora wrote:
    We are talking about societies here right? How about this one on topic ...
    how about here even in ours ... :?

    and James Brown he's a bit slap happy maybe not the best example on how not to
    womanize a woman

    Not the man James Brown but his song *It's A Man's Man's Man's World*


    This is a man's world, this is a man's world
    But it wouldn't be NOTHING, NOTHING without a woman or a girl
    :D

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
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  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    g under p wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    We are talking about societies here right? How about this one on topic ...
    how about here even in ours ... :?

    and James Brown he's a bit slap happy maybe not the best example on how not to
    womanize a woman

    Not the man James Brown but his song *It's A Man's Man's Man's World*


    This is a man's world, this is a man's world
    But it wouldn't be NOTHING, NOTHING without a woman or a girl
    :D

    Peace

    not to be mean but did he sing that while he beat her :?
    seems terribly hypocritical words for what he has been accused of
    because a real man appreciates women as his words elude to
    but actions do not

    I see your point though and
    I hope you see it is a man's world still
    women need the help of men to change that here and abroad
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    pandora wrote:
    g under p wrote:
    pandora wrote:
    We are talking about societies here right? How about this one on topic ...
    how about here even in ours ... :?

    and James Brown he's a bit slap happy maybe not the best example on how not to
    womanize a woman

    Not the man James Brown but his song *It's A Man's Man's Man's World*


    This is a man's world, this is a man's world
    But it wouldn't be NOTHING, NOTHING without a woman or a girl
    :D

    Peace

    not to be mean but did he sing that while he beat her :?
    seems terribly hypocritical words for what he has been accused of
    because a real man appreciates women as his words elude to
    but actions do not

    I see your point though and
    I hope you see it is a man's world still
    women need the help of men to change that here and abroad

    Well I don't see it as a man's world necessarily, or maybe I'm just around more women who have been successful without ever needing any help from a man. :)

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Leyna MinaiLeyna Minai Posts: 691
    The shitty part is, the only reason she was forced to marry her rapist was because her PARENTS didn't want the shame of her daughter not being a 'virgin' or whatever.
    Fucked up world man.
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Hopefully, this poor little girl did not die in vain
    Completely with you on this.
  • bennett13bennett13 Posts: 439
    pandora wrote:
    Men (Man) are supposed to protect women and children ...
    why don't they?


    cause theyre fucks.... and its a little sexist that you think women and children need protecting by men

    You say men are fucks and then call someone else sexist. I find that hilarious! :lol::lol::lol:
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    ugh... men are fucks.

    what a sexist, misguided, and ingorant response
  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    my2hands wrote:
    ugh... men are fucks.

    what a sexist, misguided, and ingorant response


    I think it was a emotional response, both sexes feel that way about the other sex on occassion.

    except gays
  • pandorapandora Posts: 21,855
    g under p wrote:
    pandora wrote:

    not to be mean but did he sing that while he beat her :?
    seems terribly hypocritical words for what he has been accused of
    because a real man appreciates women as his words elude to
    but actions do not

    I see your point though and
    I hope you see it is a man's world still
    women need the help of men to change that here and abroad

    Well I don't see it as a man's world necessarily, or maybe I'm just around more women who have been successful without ever needing any help from a man. :)

    Peace
    I mean in general but you know that....
    and again this topic we are speaking of is an example of the
    world women live in

    Glad your life is so privledged to not see the women on the streets, or in the shelters,
    or see how many are hurt...
    good for you and your friends.

    Me I look around and say it's still a man's world
    when one woman is raped every f'n minute in the great US of A

    I guess I expect better and know that it is men who must require more of other men.
  • Pepe SilviaPepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    oddly enough it's in the bible that if you rape an unbetrothed virgin you must marry her......

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... rsion=HCSB

    Deuteronomy 22:28-29
    28 If a man encounters a young woman, a virgin who is not engaged, takes hold of her and rapes her, and they are discovered, 29 the man who raped her must give the young woman’s father 50 silver shekels, and she must become his wife because he violated her. He cannot divorce her as long as he lives.
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  • chadwickchadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    oddly enough it's in the bible that if you rape an unbetrothed virgin you must marry her......

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... rsion=HCSB

    Deuteronomy 22:28-29
    28 If a man encounters a young woman, a virgin who is not engaged, takes hold of her and rapes her, and they are discovered, 29 the man who raped her must give the young woman’s father 50 silver shekels, and she must become his wife because he violated her. He cannot divorce her as long as he lives.
    again another reason a bible is a comedy act. a terribly sick joke at that.
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    chadwick wrote:
    oddly enough it's in the bible that if you rape an unbetrothed virgin you must marry her......

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... rsion=HCSB

    Deuteronomy 22:28-29
    28 If a man encounters a young woman, a virgin who is not engaged, takes hold of her and rapes her, and they are discovered, 29 the man who raped her must give the young woman’s father 50 silver shekels, and she must become his wife because he violated her. He cannot divorce her as long as he lives.
    again another reason a bible is a comedy act. a terribly sick joke at that.


    do you need a hug buddy ? anything for a bro.

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  • polaris_xpolaris_x Posts: 13,559
    oddly enough it's in the bible that if you rape an unbetrothed virgin you must marry her......

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... rsion=HCSB

    Deuteronomy 22:28-29
    28 If a man encounters a young woman, a virgin who is not engaged, takes hold of her and rapes her, and they are discovered, 29 the man who raped her must give the young woman’s father 50 silver shekels, and she must become his wife because he violated her. He cannot divorce her as long as he lives.

    shit ... is that really in there ... ever more reason to not buy the shit they are selling ...
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