forced to marry her rapist,16 yaer old teen commits suicide

Godfather.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/03/15 ... s-outrage/

this just sickens me.

Godfather.

catefrances

ugh... men are fucks.

pandora

Men (Man) are supposed to protect women and children ...
why don't they?

catefrances

pandora wrote:

Men (Man) are supposed to protect women and children ...
why don't they?

cause theyre fucks.... and its a little sexist that you think women and children need protecting by men

unlost dogs

I'm trying to recall the case that was all over the news last summer / fall _ very similar, but I don't think it was in Morocco.

I can't even begin to understand the kind of thinking that supports this viewpoint. Or society that institutes it as a law.

Godfather.

catefrances wrote:

ugh... men are fucks.

ohhh that's it Cate lump us all together.

Godfather.

polaris_x

time to boycott everything moroccan i say

pandora

catefrances wrote:

pandora wrote:

Men (Man) are supposed to protect women and children ...
why don't they?

cause theyre fucks.... and its a little sexist that you think women and children need protecting by men

pretty obvious they do cate

its a man's world ... still

this subject a damn good example

Go Beavers

Let's elect Santorum so she'll only be forced to have the man's baby.

g under p

pandora wrote:

Men (Man) are supposed to protect women and children ...
why don't they?

pandora wrote:

catefrances wrote:

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cause theyre fucks.... and its a little sexist that you think women and children need protecting by men

pretty obvious they do cate

its a man's world ... still

this subject a damn good example

I have to disagree, if a woman wants to protect herself she most certainly can. Women are play an intregal part in this world it only appears that it's a man's. That is according to the one and only James Brown.

peace

BinauralJam

Sad, too bad she didn't kill the guy instead.

pandora

g under p wrote:

pandora wrote:

Men (Man) are supposed to protect women and children ...
why don't they?

pandora wrote:

catefrances wrote:

[

cause theyre fucks.... and its a little sexist that you think women and children need protecting by men

pretty obvious they do cate

its a man's world ... still

this subject a damn good example

I have to disagree, if a woman wants to protect herself she most certainly can. Women are play an intregal part in this world it only appears that it's a man's. That is according to the one and only James Brown.

peace

We are talking about societies here right? How about this one on topic ...
how about here even in ours ... :?

and James Brown he's a bit slap happy maybe not the best example on how not to
womanize a woman

mikepegg44

Go Beavers wrote:

Let's elect Santorum so she'll only be forced to have the man's baby.

well played

Cate...I don't think it is far to call that person a man simply because he has genitals. He is no man in my book

pandora

BinauralJam wrote:

Sad, too bad she didn't kill the guy instead.

or her brothers kill the guy

EdsonNascimento

polaris_x wrote:

time to boycott everything moroccan i say

This is obviously ridiculous, as is somehow linking this to Santorum :roll: (I know that wasn't you).

This is a completely stupid "tradition" that once again shows why ruling via religious doctrine is not only silly, but dangerous. Does that make all Moroccan's bad? Absolutely not. Just the ruling folks that have not seen fit to change something so obviously amoral because of some religious belief.

Hopefully, this poor little girl did not die in vain, and there is a holiday in her honor in Morocco some day (not that I would ever know). So sad.

polaris_x

EdsonNascimento wrote:

This is obviously ridiculous, as is somehow linking this to Santorum :roll: (I know that wasn't you).

This is a completely stupid "tradition" that once again shows why ruling via religious doctrine is not only silly, but dangerous. Does that make all Moroccan's bad? Absolutely not. Just the ruling folks that have not seen fit to change something so obviously amoral because of some religious belief.

Hopefully, this poor little girl did not die in vain, and there is a holiday in her honor in Morocco some day (not that I would ever know). So sad.

hey ... if some people can boycott french products because they don't want to bomb innocent people ... i should be able to boycott a country that still employs a judicial system that would force this girl down this path ...

how do you hope to constitute change in morocco then? ... boycotts and impacts to the economy are known to work ...

EdsonNascimento

polaris_x wrote:

EdsonNascimento wrote:

This is obviously ridiculous, as is somehow linking this to Santorum :roll: (I know that wasn't you).

This is a completely stupid "tradition" that once again shows why ruling via religious doctrine is not only silly, but dangerous. Does that make all Moroccan's bad? Absolutely not. Just the ruling folks that have not seen fit to change something so obviously amoral because of some religious belief.

Hopefully, this poor little girl did not die in vain, and there is a holiday in her honor in Morocco some day (not that I would ever know). So sad.

hey ... if some people can boycott french products because they don't want to bomb innocent people ... i should be able to boycott a country that still employs a judicial system that would force this girl down this path ...

how do you hope to constitute change in morocco then? ... boycotts and impacts to the economy are known to work ...

Oh. You can do whatever you want. Boycott Morocco. I don't care. I actually thought you were being facetious and trying to make a comment about how this type of rule ends up in racially motivated tirades. So, my bad on the interpretation.

Unfortunately, boycotts don't work on countries like that because it winds up hurting the general populace, some (maybe many) of who may not agree with current policy. The leaders will still get theirs.

But, do what you want.

And boycotting France is a good policy all around. No add'l reasons needed.

redrock

EdsonNascimento wrote:

This is a completely stupid "tradition" that once again shows why ruling via religious doctrine is not only silly, but dangerous. Does that make all Moroccan's bad? Absolutely not. Just the ruling folks that have not seen fit to change something so obviously amoral because of some religious belief.

Hopefully, this poor little girl did not die in vain, and there is a holiday in her honor in Morocco some day (not that I would ever know). So sad.

I understand that this law (which is also mentioned in the Old Testament!) is rarely applied in Morocco. It is ancient and, it would seem, difficult to call upon as both families need to agree. This does not happen often and, if it does, it will mainly be amongst the less educated or those living in more remote areas.

This said, even once is one time too many, whether this marriage has as tragic endings as this one. What is needed (and an ongoing 'project') is education, education, education. Whilst women can be 'nothing' in this country, they also hold positions of power or influence and are working very hard to change the situation of women there (albeit they also need to 'comply' to certain rules/tradition, whether of behaviour, modesty etc.).

My friend Hamida (who is moroccan) is not only a judge in Belgium but also a women's rights advocate/family lawyer in Morocco. Foundations are being laid, but it's a very, very difficult road ahead - EDUCATION! Of women AND men!

g under p

pandora wrote:

We are talking about societies here right? How about this one on topic ...
how about here even in ours ... :?

and James Brown he's a bit slap happy maybe not the best example on how not to
womanize a woman

Not the man James Brown but his song *It's A Man's Man's Man's World*


This is a man's world, this is a man's world
But it wouldn't be NOTHING, NOTHING without a woman or a girl

Peace

pandora

g under p wrote:

pandora wrote:

We are talking about societies here right? How about this one on topic ...
how about here even in ours ... :?

and James Brown he's a bit slap happy maybe not the best example on how not to
womanize a woman

Not the man James Brown but his song *It's A Man's Man's Man's World*


This is a man's world, this is a man's world
But it wouldn't be NOTHING, NOTHING without a woman or a girl

Peace

not to be mean but did he sing that while he beat her :?
seems terribly hypocritical words for what he has been accused of
because a real man appreciates women as his words elude to
but actions do not

I see your point though and
I hope you see it is a man's world still
women need the help of men to change that here and abroad

g under p

pandora wrote:

g under p wrote:

pandora wrote:

We are talking about societies here right? How about this one on topic ...
how about here even in ours ... :?

and James Brown he's a bit slap happy maybe not the best example on how not to
womanize a woman

Not the man James Brown but his song *It's A Man's Man's Man's World*


This is a man's world, this is a man's world
But it wouldn't be NOTHING, NOTHING without a woman or a girl

Peace

not to be mean but did he sing that while he beat her :?
seems terribly hypocritical words for what he has been accused of
because a real man appreciates women as his words elude to
but actions do not

I see your point though and
I hope you see it is a man's world still
women need the help of men to change that here and abroad

Well I don't see it as a man's world necessarily, or maybe I'm just around more women who have been successful without ever needing any help from a man.

Peace