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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/la-n ... 2942.story

Chants of "USA!" -- directed last week at a predominantly Latino basketball team -- are still reverberating in San Antonio, Texas, with school district officials filing an official complaint about the incident with league officials.

Fans of Alamo Heights, a wealthy San Antonio school district, chanted "USA!" during the regional basketball championship trophy presentation in the school's Littleton Gym on Saturday, according to video posted by KENS5. The predominantly white Alamo Heights team had defeated San Antonio's Thomas A. Edison High School, a mostly Latino team, by 50-39 Friday night, earning its first spot in the state tournament since 1991, the station reported.

The loss ended a breakthrough season for Edison, which had advanced to the regional tournament for the first time in 50 years.

Video of the taunting has sparked heated debate in San Antonio, a predominantly Latino city about 150 miles north of the Mexico border, with Edison students who attended Saturday's game saying they were shocked by the chanting.

"It just rubbed us the wrong way," Forest Lebaron, an Edison senior, told KSAT-TV.

Edison officials were also upset.

"Our kids deserve better than hearing what they did after the game from those Alamo Heights students, even if it was just for a few seconds," Gil Garza, athletic director for Edison's San Antonio Independent School District, told KENS5. "These students also rained on their own team's celebration."

Alamo Heights coach Andrew Brewer acted quickly to stop the chanting, Garza said, but that wasn't enough for Edison officials. They filed an official complaint about the incident with the University Interscholastic League, which oversees Texas public high school extracurricular activities.

"Our kids try real hard and work extra hard to get to the regional tournament, and then we have to worry about them being subjected to this kind of insensitivity," Garza told KENS5. "To be attacked about your ethnicity and being made to feel that you don't belong in this country is terrible. Why can't people just applaud our kids? It just gets old and I'm sick of it. Once again, we're on pins and needles wondering what's going to happen."

The Alamo Heights School District has 10 days to respond to the complaint. The district's superintendent has already apologized for the chanting.

"Obviously, we were disappointed that this happened," Supt. Kevin Brown told KENS5. "That's not who we are as a community and that's not who we are as a school. It's not something that's acceptable for us. Our kids are very respectable. We have to remember that they're teenagers, and kids make mistakes."

"We have tried to use this as a teachable moment for them," he said. "We have talked to our students. We've taken responsibility for it."

Fans seen chanting by Alamo Heights officials have been banned from the team's semifinal game Thursday in Austin against Dallas' Kimball High.

“We think that you have to earn a right to be there and that’s not a reflection of our school district,” Brown told KSAT-TV.

A similar controversy erupted in San Antonio last year, according to the San Antonio Express-News, when a group of student basketball fans from nearby Cedar Park chanted “USA!” during a boys basketball playoff game against their mostly white team and San Antonio's majority Latino Sidney Lanier High School team.

Lanier coaches, players and fans interpreted the chant as ethnic taunting; the district filed a complaint; and Cedar Park officials had to apologize.

Videos of the latest chanting by Alamo Heights fans posted online have renewed debate about the chanting among San Antonio students and basketball fans.

Some posting on the KSAT-TV Facebook page called the Alamo Heights chants patriotic.

"I am totally with the USA Cheers," wrote John Nicks. "They should not be forced to or apologize at all. Its Hispanic team vs Caucasian Team, whats wrong with rooting and cheering for the USA/Caucasians to win?"

Others considered the cheering offensive and racist.

"What was the point of chanting it at a local game? If it was worldwide like the Olympics and the team was from a different country, I would see why they were chanting "USA," but no both teams are from San Antonio therefore no reason for the chant," wrote Karla Sanchez, an Alamo student. "The way they chanted it as a cheer against a school of mainly minorities to bring them down is what's wrong."
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    what the hell is wrong with people? They might as well have just chanted "GO WHITE KIDS!"
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,436
    republicans.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • imalive wrote:
    republicans.

    uhhh.... High Skool kidz.
  • what the hell is wrong with people? They might as well have just chanted "GO WHITE KIDS!"


    White kids are the new minority. When you are a minority, you can abuse whomever you want to.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    imalive wrote:
    republicans.


    Didn't take long for a dumbass comment in this thread did it?

    This is crazy. There were obviously chanting it as a taunt against the Latino kids on the other team. What dumb asses, not only are they Americans, they live in the same city. Geography must be taught by morons in San Antonio.

    They are kids however, so using it as a teaching moment sounds like the best plan. I would schedule some sort of visit to the "Latino" school for the kids involved (including their parents if necessary). Hooking them up 1:1 with latino americans from that school. I think that would do the most good to change people's minds or get them to understand just how terrible what they did was.
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  • BinauralJamBinauralJam Posts: 14,158
    If the Situation were reversed and they were chanting "Mexico Mexico", i wouldn't have a problem with it, but like VM said, High School Kids, They generally suck.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    what the hell is wrong with people? They might as well have just chanted "GO WHITE KIDS!"


    White kids are the new minority. When you are a minority, you can abuse whomever you want to.

    And apparently math isn't your strong suit either... how exactly are white kids a minority?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    what the hell is wrong with people? They might as well have just chanted "GO WHITE KIDS!"


    White kids are the new minority. When you are a minority, you can abuse whomever you want to.

    And apparently math isn't your strong suit either... how exactly are white kids a minority?

    I thought it was a weird comment too, but check this out...

    http://www.ersys.com/usa/48/4865000/ethnic.htm
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    BFD ! this is America right...if you look just a little you can find youtube videos of mexican people telling you that they are taking the US over by storm not to mention I could tell of personal experiances about hearing that same thing so again I say BFD GET OVER IT !!
    for fuck sakes a mexican does it and nobody sez shit and if a white American does it everybody has a fit...what a joke !
    Godfather.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    And this

    http://www.areavibes.com/san+antonio-tx/demographics/

    "In San Antonio, 58.6% of people are of Hispanic or Latino origin.
    Please note: Hispanics may be of any race, so also are included in any/all of the applicable race categories above."
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    Godfather. wrote:
    BFD ! this is America right...if you look just a little you can find youtube videos of mexican people telling you that they are taking the US over by storm not to mention I could tell of personal experiances about hearing that same thing so again I say BFD GET OVER IT !!
    for fuck sakes a mexican does it and nobody sez shit and if a white American does it everybody has a fit...what a joke !
    Godfather.


    Did any team chant "Mexico, Mexico"?
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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Godfather. wrote:
    BFD ! this is America right...if you look just a little you can find youtube videos of mexican people telling you that they are taking the US over by storm not to mention I could tell of personal experiances about hearing that same thing so again I say BFD GET OVER IT !!
    for fuck sakes a mexican does it and nobody sez shit and if a white American does it everybody has a fit...what a joke !
    Godfather.


    Did any team chant "Mexico, Mexico"?
    so what ?

    Godfather.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    Godfather. wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    BFD ! this is America right...if you look just a little you can find youtube videos of mexican people telling you that they are taking the US over by storm not to mention I could tell of personal experiances about hearing that same thing so again I say BFD GET OVER IT !!
    for fuck sakes a mexican does it and nobody sez shit and if a white American does it everybody has a fit...what a joke !
    Godfather.


    Did any team chant "Mexico, Mexico"?
    so what ?

    Godfather.


    You said "for fuck sakes a mexican does it and nobody sez shit and if a white American does it everybody has a fit"

    But it didn't happen, so you don't know how people would react. I for 1 believe that there would have been more outrage. I believe the same level of outrage would be appropriate.

    It's not only DUMB to chant that it was target at a specific group of people in a nasty manner. That can't be ok.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Godfather. wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    BFD ! this is America right...if you look just a little you can find youtube videos of mexican people telling you that they are taking the US over by storm not to mention I could tell of personal experiances about hearing that same thing so again I say BFD GET OVER IT !!
    for fuck sakes a mexican does it and nobody sez shit and if a white American does it everybody has a fit...what a joke !
    Godfather.


    Did any team chant "Mexico, Mexico"?
    so what ?

    Godfather.

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  • mikepegg44mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    imalive wrote:
    republicans.


    yeah...a bunch of high school republicans...they are everywhere...

    it was high school kids doing something stupid, what is the big deal?

    I heard about this on the radio last night and was floored that people are turning this into any sort of issue.

    This just in, high school kids do something stupid and mean, probably without thinking...Not their best work either...
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,191
    Godfather. wrote:
    BFD ! this is America right...if you look just a little you can find youtube videos of mexican people telling you that they are taking the US over by storm not to mention I could tell of personal experiances about hearing that same thing so again I say BFD GET OVER IT !!
    for fuck sakes a mexican does it and nobody sez shit and if a white American does it everybody has a fit...what a joke !
    Godfather.

    You always seem to be a bit behind the curve when the topic of race comes up.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    nice one BRY...jeepers creepers :lol:

    Godfather.
  • arqarq Posts: 8,049
    Is this an article written by the onion?
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    Why not (V) (°,,,,°) (V) ?
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Go Beavers wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    BFD ! this is America right...if you look just a little you can find youtube videos of mexican people telling you that they are taking the US over by storm not to mention I could tell of personal experiances about hearing that same thing so again I say BFD GET OVER IT !!
    for fuck sakes a mexican does it and nobody sez shit and if a white American does it everybody has a fit...what a joke !
    Godfather.

    You always seem to be a bit behind the curve when the topic of race comes up.

    no not really, I am tired of the race issue every time being brought up and aimed at white people that's all.

    Godfather.
  • SmellymanSmellyman Asia Posts: 4,524
    any video.?

    This is Texas we are talking about......

    I bet the adults were doing it too.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. wrote:
    I am tired of the race issue every time being brought up and aimed at white people that's all.

    Yep, white Americans have had such a hard time being discriminated against all these years. It really is terrible what white they've had to endure.
    First they were made to sit on the upper deck of slave ships where they were at risk of getting sunburn.
    Then they were made to administer the plantations where they had to beat and lash the slaves, running the risk of getting blisters on their hands.
    Then they were told to sit at the front of buses where they were more at risk of injury in case of a traffic accident.
    They were also inconvenienced by having to hang those uppity n****s from trees. Just think how many good, fresh figs were ruined in the process!! Not to mention the disruption these lynchings caused to the birds that lived there!
    And to top it all off, they now have to feed over 1 million black prisoners in America's jails with money that could be better spent on bombing and invading another country so that the evening news can look like a Nintendo video game and actually be worth watching.

    Still, at least all the poverty, drugs, and gang-violence in the ghetto's of America's big cities helps keep their numbers down a bit. God forbid they ever have something called 'EQUALITY'!


    I only wish every place could be just like Arizona. *sigh*


    Carry on....
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    I am tired of the race issue every time being brought up and aimed at white people that's all.

    Yep, white Americans have had such a hard time being discriminated against all these years. It really is terrible what white they've had to endure.
    First they were made to sit on the upper deck of slave ships where they were at risk of getting sunburn.
    Then they were made to administer the plantations where they had to beat and lash the slaves, running the risk of getting blisters on their hands.
    Then they were told to sit at the front of buses where they were more at risk of injury in case of a traffic accident.
    They were also inconvenienced by having to hang those uppity n****s from trees. Just think how many good, fresh figs were ruined in the process!! Not to mention the disruption these lynchings caused to the birds that lived there!
    And to top it all off, they now have to feed over 1 million black prisoners in America's jails with money that could be better spent on bombing and invading another country so that the evening news can look like a Nintendo video game and actually be worth watching.

    Still, at least all the poverty, drugs, and gang-violence in the ghetto's of America's big cities helps keep their numbers down a bit. God forbid they ever have something called 'EQUALITY'!


    I only wish every place could be just like Arizona. *sigh*


    Carry on....

    welcome back...you must have been away living in the past.


    Godfather.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Godfather. wrote:
    welcome back...you must have been away living in the past.

    Of course. Because racism doesn't exist in America anymore, right?

    The percentage of blacks and Hispanics living in poverty, or behind bars in America's jails, is a perfectly normal state of affairs.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    edited March 2012
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    I am tired of the race issue every time being brought up and aimed at white people that's all.

    Yep, white Americans have had such a hard time being discriminated against all these years. It really is terrible what white they've had to endure.
    First they were made to sit on the upper deck of slave ships where they were at risk of getting sunburn.
    Then they were made to administer the plantations where they had to beat and lash the slaves, running the risk of getting blisters on their hands.
    Then they were told to sit at the front of buses where they were more at risk of injury in case of a traffic accident.
    They were also inconvenienced by having to hang those uppity n****s from trees. Just think how many good, fresh figs were ruined in the process!! Not to mention the disruption these lynchings caused to the birds that lived there!
    And to top it all off, they now have to feed over 1 million black prisoners in America's jails with money that could be better spent on bombing and invading another country so that the evening news can look like a Nintendo video game and actually be worth watching.

    Still, at least all the poverty, drugs, and gang-violence in the ghetto's of America's big cities helps keep their numbers down a bit. God forbid they ever have something called 'EQUALITY'!


    I only wish every place could be just like Arizona. *sigh*


    Carry on....

    Well put Byrnzie one can ONLY tell how this FEEELS when that formidable shoe is on the other foot. If this were against another country or in the Olympics I could understand but US citizens NO, Hell NO. It's no wonder this country is facing dire straits we can't or don't want to work or play together.

    It matters NONE that this happened in the USA...this just shouldn't happen. Those same HS students could join the military and fight to protect both you and I would YOU STILL want to call them out during and through a basketball game? Well would you Godfather? :evil:

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  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    welcome back...you must have been away living in the past.

    Of course. Because racism doesn't exist in America anymore, right?

    The percentage of blacks and Hispanics living in poverty, or behind bars in America's jails, is a perfectly normal state of affairs.
    it is if you break the law..plain and simple.

    Godfather.
  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    Godfather. wrote:
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Godfather. wrote:
    welcome back...you must have been away living in the past.

    Of course. Because racism doesn't exist in America anymore, right?

    The percentage of blacks and Hispanics living in poverty, or behind bars in America's jails, is a perfectly normal state of affairs.
    it is if you break the law..plain and simple.

    Godfather.

    come on Godfather you know that this is not the reason.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I would never falt a person that lives in poverty but people in prison ...some may have got a bad rap(very few) but you can bet your knickers they broak the law to get in.

    Godfather.
  • Smellyman wrote:
    any video.?

    This is Texas we are talking about......

    I bet the adults were doing it too.


    Says the one who's never been...
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    Godfather. wrote:
    I would never falt a person that lives in poverty but people in prison ...some may have got a bad rap(very few) but you can bet your knickers they broak the law to get in.

    Godfather.
    The same laws rich white kids break.....minor drug 'crimes'. But the police don't patrol or prosecute in rich white kid suburbia with anywhere near the same frequency as inner city, poor minority neighborhoods, do they?....and when they do, which group can afford lawyers to get them out of trouble?
    Look up some drug arrest stats broken down by race and class demographics. It cannot be described in any way other than racist. This is drug war 101 stuff Godfather.
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