FS: Rare PJ Vinyl

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  • I'm the ocean
    I'm the ocean Posts: 77
    edited March 2012
    moliver8 wrote:
    homegrown wrote:
    I love this! With time things become "RARE"

    There were only 550 legitimate soldier field sets pressed and probably less than 25 of the Ten test pressing so yes I would qualify these as "rare". I would also guess that there are less than 500 "5 tracks from the new album" pressed as they are near impossible to find but in the end we will never know.

    If any mods feel as though my post is offensive then I will take it down. I have not yet received payment for anything so if any mods let me know that this is against the board rules then I will not sell to board members and will find another forum to sell.

    I am sorry to offend, and thanks for all your PMs.
    If that is fair market value than I'm wrong and I apologize. Hope you make a million off other peoples work.

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  • moliver8
    moliver8 Posts: 97
    edited March 2012
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  • pjradio
    pjradio Posts: 6,704
    edited March 2012
    homegrown wrote:
    No flipping* posters, or selling illegal items such as illegal bootlegs from bootleggers, homemade CDs and DVDs, items purchased marked "not for resale", etc.

    the Legit Soldier Field was an LP SANCTIONED by the band to be given away at St. Louis FM Station 105.7 KPNT “The Point”.
    They were given away in October of '96 (16 yrs ago)...No Illegal Bootleg here.

    Cut to 17yrs later...these are HIGHLY coveted now, as I'm sure that the band knew they would be or they wouldn't have signed off on them to begin with...the price for these are now in the $100's...if the Band doesn't have a problem, why should you? You earlier referred to this (rightly so) as ART. So, using that, if somehow down the line in your family, you found out you had an original print given to your family by Picasso, which has now found its way to you...for whatever reason you need to get rid of it....are you gonna just give it to somebody for free because they like paintings by Picasso? Or are you going to sell it at what the market says its worth?

    "* Flipping is buying items (from Ten Club or merch booth, etc.) with the intent to resell for a profit.
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  • moliver8
    moliver8 Posts: 97
    I'm keeping these items, it seems that its only acceptable on "Lost Dogs" if I sell for the lowest price that these ever sold for ever. Sorry again for wasting everyone's time.
  • pjradio
    pjradio Posts: 6,704
    moliver8 wrote:
    I'm keeping these items, it seems that its only acceptable on "Lost Dogs" if I sell for the lowest price that these ever sold for ever. Sorry again for wasting everyone's time.

    sorry to hear that...would've like to have seen them go to a person willing to pay & enjoy...way to go homegrown..
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  • AfghanTwilight
    AfghanTwilight Rochester, NY Posts: 869
    edited March 2012
    homegrown wrote:
    homegrown wrote:
    I love this! With time things become "RARE" and therefore those who've possessed such items somehow feel they've contributed something to justify these astronomical prices. I can appreciate financial woes and understand market values but this doesn't give you the right to reap profit from other peoples art. You want these items to find a deserving home then offer them up for what you paid. This isn't ebay and unless this is for charity it's not cool.

    Hey there. When you come into posession of an original Soldier Field LP and then decide to unload it, please contact me first with a handsome discount in place.

    And you have no idea what he paid for it. Just like him buying a house, no one is giving the house to him for what they paid. He's paying the current market value.

    I have a degree in writing, yet even I understand these things to be freemarket economics.

    And that new album you speak of? Press the sucker on white vinyl, and you'll easily find it gets $150. And this is for an album on colored vinyl, which is inferior in sound reproduction. If the kitchen's too hot, there's always room at the chicken bbq.
    Good for you and your degree! Wow! I guess this is the bashing I've been hearing about. What happened to this place? You used to be able to bring up a different perspective with valid points and politely disagree but this is really quite something. And the temperature isn't hot in here, it's down right cold. But I'd gladly meet you in the kitchen and show you how to cook.

    I think it's fair to say you're the one who's made this thread take on the persona you'd heard about. And your point may have been valid, but the way you presented it was anything but appropriate. And you're a big man wanting to fight me with your internet muscles. Congrats to you on that.

    I'll let you in on a little secret. Phrases like:
    I love this! (*sic: with obvious sarcasm)
    "RARE"
    ...those who've possessed such items somehow feel they've contributed something to justify these astronomical prices.
    ...but this doesn't give you the right to reap profit from other peoples art.
    This isn't ebay

    Are all misguided and inappropriate. Again, You don't know what the OP paid for any of these.
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  • moliver8 wrote:
    I'm keeping these items, it seems that its only acceptable on "Lost Dogs" if I sell for the lowest price that these ever sold for ever. Sorry again for wasting everyone's time.
    What are you, 12? Grow up. Sell your items. Jesus. You can't even have a different opinion anymore. Clearly I should have voiced my opinion on this issue in a separate thread and for that I truly apologize but to resort to your behavior is childish. If that's the fair value and clearly there are people ready to belly up then good on you.
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  • AfghanTwilight
    AfghanTwilight Rochester, NY Posts: 869
    Someone's acting like a hothead.
  • pjradio
    pjradio Posts: 6,704
    homegrown wrote:
    Clearly I should have voiced my opinion on this issue in a separate thread

    no...you would've caught the same shit there too!
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  • Hey there. When you come into posession of an original Soldier Field LP and then decide to unload it, please contact me first with a handsome discount in place.

    And you have no idea what he paid for it. Just like him buying a house, no one is giving the house to him for what they paid. He's paying the current market value.

    I have a degree in writing, yet even I understand these things to be freemarket economics.

    And that new album you speak of? Press the sucker on white vinyl, and you'll easily find it gets $150. And this is for an album on colored vinyl, which is inferior in sound reproduction. If the kitchen's too hot, there's always room at the chicken bbq.[/quote]
    Good for you and your degree! Wow! I guess this is the bashing I've been hearing about. What happened to this place? You used to be able to bring up a different perspective with valid points and politely disagree but this is really quite something. And the temperature isn't hot in here, it's down right cold. But I'd gladly meet you in the kitchen and show you how to cook.[/quote]

    I think it's fair to say you're the one who's made this thread take on the persona you'd heard about. And your point may have been valid, but the way you presented it was anything but appropriate. And you're a big man wanting to fight me with your internet muscles. Congrats to you on that.

    I'll let you in on a little secret. Phrases like:
    I love this! (*sic: with obvious sarcasm)
    "RARE"
    ...those who've possessed such items somehow feel they've contributed something to justify these astronomical prices.
    ...but this doesn't give you the right to reap profit from other peoples art.
    This isn't ebay

    Are all misguided and inappropriate. Again, You don't know what the OP paid for any of these.[/quote]

    You clearly don't understand my issue and you assume too much and you brought up the kitchen, so....
    "..I'm not present, I'm the drug that makes you dream, I'm an aerostar, I'm a cutlass supreme in the wrong lane trying to turn against the flow, I'm the ocean, I'm the giant undertow..."
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  • pjradio
    pjradio Posts: 6,704
    Someone's acting like a hothead.

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  • AfghanTwilight
    AfghanTwilight Rochester, NY Posts: 869
    There's a difference between telling someone to take a walk if they can't take the stress from a large contingent of voices telling them to back off the issue, and that of inviting someone to a fisticuffs. I don't even know the OP, but he certainly didn't deserve a roasting. Nor do you. But you have to make a decision to walk away from the issue you've welcomed here tonight.
  • 63schoefflin
    63schoefflin Posts: 2,581
    I hope you are happy now that you have prevented the OP from selling his items. I'm not quite sure what you were trying to accomplish by even posting. This doesn't concern you at all and while it is your opinion that you are entitled to....it just makes you come off whiny, sorry.

    And you are talking about all of the "bashing" going on here? Well I think your post was made to bring attention to yourself and start something out of nothing. So when you make a comment like that just deal with the responses people may have.

    I hate to ramble but it just really irks me seeing something so childish going on here. If you didn't make a useless post then the OP could have sold some really cool items to some folks who would really enjoy it. Hope that makes you happy. :P
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  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    It sucks the OP doesnt want to list the items anymore. This forum is here to help people avoid having to go to ebay both for buying and selling, and to a certain extent its pretty well self-policed. If someone is charging way too much, it won't sell and I'm fairly certain someone will say "its a big overpriced." If its not overpriced it sells and everyone is happy.

    Collectibles are going to have varying values and many will increase over time. Pearl Jam has fed into this immensely with posters, limited vinyl, CD singles, etc over the last 20 years. I'm not saying they WANTED this, but by creating demand for these items of course its going to create a market for it with prices that are going to vary from low to insane.

    I hope the OP reconsiders since it appeared there was interest in a few of the items that I know some people were looking for. If the standard is that we can't sell above the original value (which is impossible based on the fact that a lot of these are promos), there won't be a need for a Lost Dogs forum.
  • Aussie357
    Aussie357 Posts: 649
    @ homegrown

    You're not the seller, or potential buyer by the sound of it, so while your 2cents might be important to you, it does nothing here besides derail a perfectly acceptable thread for both the OP, and fans and members who may have had a chance to get what they want, for a price they are willing to pay.

    If I understand your point of view correctly, then please contact me when you decide to sell your Benaroya Hall vinyl boxed set for the original $45.00 issue price, as I am currently looking to shell out the thick end of $1000.00 for one. I'll even buy you a beer as a thank you! Or would that be viewed as excessive profit........?

    Being constructive, rather than destructive, is always more gratifying.
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  • pjradio
    pjradio Posts: 6,704
    Aussie357 wrote:
    sell your Benaroya Hall vinyl boxed set for the original $45.00 issue price, as I am currently looking to shell out the thick end of $1000.00 for one. I'll even buy you a beer as a thank you! Or would that be viewed as excessive profit........?

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  • pjradio
    pjradio Posts: 6,704
    this thread pisses me off...totally unnecessary
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  • Aussie357
    Aussie357 Posts: 649
    pjradio wrote:
    this thread pisses me off...totally unnecessary

    +1
    I'll keep takin' punches until their will grows tired... Hey I won't change direction and I won't change my mind.......
  • Suziemay
    Suziemay Posts: 11,168
    Aussie357 wrote:
    @ homegrown

    You're not the seller, or potential buyer by the sound of it, so while your 2cents might be important to you, it does nothing here besides derail a perfectly acceptable thread for both the OP, and fans and members who may have had a chance to get what they want, for a price they are willing to pay.
    What Aussie said. You stated your opinion, move on. Why keep coming back to derail the thread?

    moliver8, homegrown does not speak for the entire forum, it is his opinion (which is entitled to) and clearly others here feel differently. Please don't let this deter you from selling what you intended to, especially since people have expressed interest. Selling stuff here has always been controversial, seems like it will always be. Just do what you gotta do.

    If it's against forum rules, someone will report it and Kat/Sea will lock it. End of story.
  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    Suziemay wrote:
    Selling stuff here has always been controversial, seems like it will always be. Just do what you gotta do.
    I agree with this -- if I had stuff to sell I'd almost rather do it on ebay and pay the fees just to avoid getting flamed for selling something like the OP is here which has a value that is hard to measure like promos/limited stuff that's not readily out there/etc.
    Suziemay wrote:
    If it's against forum rules, someone will report it and Kat/Sea will lock it. End of story.
    And on this -- I've seen a ton of times where people post and say "you need to fix (XYZ) or else it violates the rules of the forum" before its even reported. People aren't out to try and shut down threads here... on this forum for the most part it seems like everyone is pretty helpful and will let you know if something seems wrong or needs to be changed.