Well... I guess it all depends on whom you are and how you see things... I suppose.
I mean, I have a friend that has a child with chronic asthma. They aren't rich, so they live in apartment type places. If a neighbor smokes outside and the smoke wafts up from his patio and into her bedroom window... well, i can see that becoming a problem.
We can say, "Fuck that kid... she should shut her goddamn window... or better yet, move the fuck out". Or we can sort of see and understand what's going on here, right?
I understand the rights of the smoker in the confines of his home... and that would probably not be a problem if the smoke did not exit his home or property. The problem is, the smoke doesn't really give a shit where it goes and who breathes it.
And we should not have to cater to those of us with health problems, either. The world is filled with shit that'll fuck over the kid with asthma... why the fuck should we give a shit about whether she and brathe or not, right?
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I guess we care... because we are human. We can figure out the difference between the person who bitches about smoking because they bitch about fucking everything and the person who just cannot physically deal with it. And we understand that you cannot legislate compassion. We have to work out those issue on our own.
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that's my take.
Well... I guess it all depends on whom you are and how you see things... I suppose.
I mean, I have a friend that has a child with chronic asthma. They aren't rich, so they live in apartment type places. If a neighbor smokes outside and the smoke wafts up from his patio and into her bedroom window... well, i can see that becoming a problem.
We can say, "Fuck that kid... she should shut her goddamn window... or better yet, move the fuck out". Or we can sort of see and understand what's going on here, right?
I understand the rights of the smoker in the confines of his home... and that would probably not be a problem if the smoke did not exit his home or property. The problem is, the smoke doesn't really give a shit where it goes and who breathes it.
And we should not have to cater to those of us with health problems, either. The world is filled with shit that'll fuck over the kid with asthma... why the fuck should we give a shit about whether she and brathe or not, right?
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I guess we care... because we are human. We can figure out the difference between the person who bitches about smoking because they bitch about fucking everything and the person who just cannot physically deal with it. And we understand that you cannot legislate compassion. We have to work out those issue on our own.
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that's my take.
Think I read that wrong initially because I took the smoker does care as a generalisation about smokers not about the individual...
That said, without sounding awful, maybe they should shut the window? There are less and less places that people can smoke and to suggest they shouldn't in their own place is not only an infringement of property rights but also discrimination
I don't mean to offend anyone, a lot of what I say should be taken with a grain of salt... that said for most of you I'm a stranger on a computer on the other side of the world, don't give me that sort of power!
This topic is a perfect example of why the N.R.A. will never, ever budge one inch and are constantly looking to expand.
Care to explain what point you're trying to make here? Just curious. Not sure if you're pro-telling people what to do or anti... how you feel about the NRA has a lot of context here!
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This topic is a perfect example of why the N.R.A. will never, ever budge one inch and are constantly looking to expand.
Care to explain what point you're trying to make here? Just curious. Not sure if you're pro-telling people what to do or anti... how you feel about the NRA has a lot of context here!
The tobacco industry used to be very strong to the point where I could buy a pack from a vending machine at my local Dairy Queen. Now there are state-wide bans and smoking on your own private property is being considered for a ban.
This is why the NRA fights things that defy common sense like gun locks, restrictions on clip capacity, etc. As long as they keep applying a full-court press, it will be hard for serious gun control regulation to come to vote.
Think I read that wrong initially because I took the smoker does care as a generalisation about smokers not about the individual...
That said, without sounding awful, maybe they should shut the window? There are less and less places that people can smoke and to suggest they shouldn't in their own place is not only an infringement of property rights but also discrimination
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Actually, the point I was trying to make is that it all differs, depending on where you stand and how you see things.
Using my friend and her daughter as the example, the solution was simple:
She just explained to the neighbor about her daughter's problems... and he complied with her requests and stopped smoking in his patio and smoked on his front porch, instead. Compromise. My friend didn't tell him he couldn't smoke... she just told him about her daughter's health issues. Legislation was not required because the neighbor felt compassion for the plight of the little girl and the mom didn't come off all heavy handed and critical of the smoker.
It's when everyone else chimes in about what he shuold and shouldn't do... and what the girl and her mom should and shouldn't do... that it becomes a mess.
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Good points, thanks for the contribution.
It's time to ban backyard barbeques!!!!
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Natural Charcoal isn't that much more expensive though... I wouldn't mind switching to it.
Think I read that wrong initially because I took the smoker does care as a generalisation about smokers not about the individual...
That said, without sounding awful, maybe they should shut the window? There are less and less places that people can smoke and to suggest they shouldn't in their own place is not only an infringement of property rights but also discrimination
Care to explain what point you're trying to make here? Just curious. Not sure if you're pro-telling people what to do or anti... how you feel about the NRA has a lot of context here!
This is why the NRA fights things that defy common sense like gun locks, restrictions on clip capacity, etc. As long as they keep applying a full-court press, it will be hard for serious gun control regulation to come to vote.
Actually, the point I was trying to make is that it all differs, depending on where you stand and how you see things.
Using my friend and her daughter as the example, the solution was simple:
She just explained to the neighbor about her daughter's problems... and he complied with her requests and stopped smoking in his patio and smoked on his front porch, instead. Compromise. My friend didn't tell him he couldn't smoke... she just told him about her daughter's health issues. Legislation was not required because the neighbor felt compassion for the plight of the little girl and the mom didn't come off all heavy handed and critical of the smoker.
It's when everyone else chimes in about what he shuold and shouldn't do... and what the girl and her mom should and shouldn't do... that it becomes a mess.
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