We're just asking everyone to pay their fair share

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  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    inmytree wrote:
    peacefrompaul wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    fine...

    let's do away with taxes...I'm sure that will cure all your ills...

    Perhaps not, but maybe people will actually have more money to spend.

    good point...perhaps police and fire services can go to a fee for service model...no money no service...

    Let's not jump from the federal level to the state level as if they are interchangeable when we talk about taxes...A sliver of the federal budget is spent on state and local policing and fire services...
    I would much rather pay for local and state level police and fire services than have federal tax dollars from Minneapolis tax payers spent on Detroit cops...but that is just me. I would rather my money go to my community. Selfish? probably. Not wanting to finance an ever growing behemoth and awesome departments like Homeland security? absolutely...We have a CIA, an FBI, an NSA...it goes on and on...but thankfully they have an armored vehicle with a turret in Fargo paid for with grant money from DHS...

    Federal personal income taxes are not necessary to survive as a country. But they aren't going anywhere...

    I really wish they would have to pay me interest on the money they withhold from me every year in excess of my tax liability.
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    mikepegg44 wrote:

    Let's not jump from the federal level to the state level as if they are interchangeable when we talk about taxes...A sliver of the federal budget is spent on state and local policing and fire services...
    I would much rather pay for local and state level police and fire services than have federal tax dollars from Minneapolis tax payers spent on Detroit cops...but that is just me. I would rather my money go to my community. Selfish? probably. Not wanting to finance an ever growing behemoth and awesome departments like Homeland security? absolutely...We have a CIA, an FBI, an NSA...it goes on and on...but thankfully they have an armored vehicle with a turret in Fargo paid for with grant money from DHS...

    Federal personal income taxes are not necessary to survive as a country. But they aren't going anywhere...

    I really wish they would have to pay me interest on the money they withhold from me every year in excess of my tax liability.

    fine...get rid of federal income taxes ...I'm sure nothing negative will come out of that...

    I guess the federal funds received by the states can be made up elsewhere...
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    inmytree wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:

    Let's not jump from the federal level to the state level as if they are interchangeable when we talk about taxes...A sliver of the federal budget is spent on state and local policing and fire services...
    I would much rather pay for local and state level police and fire services than have federal tax dollars from Minneapolis tax payers spent on Detroit cops...but that is just me. I would rather my money go to my community. Selfish? probably. Not wanting to finance an ever growing behemoth and awesome departments like Homeland security? absolutely...We have a CIA, an FBI, an NSA...it goes on and on...but thankfully they have an armored vehicle with a turret in Fargo paid for with grant money from DHS...

    Federal personal income taxes are not necessary to survive as a country. But they aren't going anywhere...

    I really wish they would have to pay me interest on the money they withhold from me every year in excess of my tax liability.

    fine...get rid of federal taxes income...I'm sure nothing negative will come out of that...

    I guess the federal funds received by the states can be made up elsewhere...


    yep
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,670
    inmytree wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:

    Let's not jump from the federal level to the state level as if they are interchangeable when we talk about taxes...A sliver of the federal budget is spent on state and local policing and fire services...
    I would much rather pay for local and state level police and fire services than have federal tax dollars from Minneapolis tax payers spent on Detroit cops...but that is just me. I would rather my money go to my community. Selfish? probably. Not wanting to finance an ever growing behemoth and awesome departments like Homeland security? absolutely...We have a CIA, an FBI, an NSA...it goes on and on...but thankfully they have an armored vehicle with a turret in Fargo paid for with grant money from DHS...

    Federal personal income taxes are not necessary to survive as a country. But they aren't going anywhere...

    I really wish they would have to pay me interest on the money they withhold from me every year in excess of my tax liability.

    fine...get rid of federal income taxes ...I'm sure nothing negative will come out of that...

    I guess the federal funds received by the states can be made up elsewhere...

    I know, all those red states would be screwed.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,670
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    inmytree wrote:

    fine...get rid of federal taxes income...I'm sure nothing negative will come out of that...

    I guess the federal funds received by the states can be made up elsewhere...


    yep

    Do tell....
  • mikepegg44
    mikepegg44 Posts: 3,353
    Go Beavers wrote:
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    inmytree wrote:

    fine...get rid of federal taxes income...I'm sure nothing negative will come out of that...

    I guess the federal funds received by the states can be made up elsewhere...


    yep

    Do tell....

    Higher local and state taxes

    Edit

    As well as spending cuts on non-essential services...but that would all be hashed out at the STATE and LOCAL level
    that’s right! Can’t we all just get together and focus on our real enemies: monogamous gays and stem cells… - Ned Flanders
    It is terrifying when you are too stupid to know who is dumb
    - Joe Rogan
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    mikepegg44 wrote:
    Higher local and state taxes

    Edit

    As well as spending cuts on non-essential services...but that would all be hashed out at the STATE and LOCAL level

    define "non-essential" please...
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,394
    inmytree wrote:
    define "non-essential" please...
    That's pretty easy. Whenever the government has "shutdown" in the past, they still provide the essential services. Anyone sitting on their bum at home during a shutdown are non-essential in the government's eyes.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Jason P wrote:
    inmytree wrote:
    define "non-essential" please...
    That's pretty easy. Whenever the government has "shutdown" in the past, they still provide the essential services. Anyone sitting on their bum at home during a shutdown are non-essential in the government's eyes.

    since it's so easy, could you be more specific on what is non-essential...

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