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    JammalamboJammalambo Posts: 1,321
    A little question, just because I'm picky about dates ;) .. about the 1993-07-16 Rotterdam show.. Why is labelled as 16-17 of july 1993? Aren't the songs just from the date of 16th of july? In the audience boot of the 16th show all the 13 songs are included.. but I have still to listen to it song by song to see if they are the same versions.. these 13 songs are taken from the "Against" boot, right? and is it really a SBD or just a good AUD? the complete AUD of the 16th sounds really good..

    anyway, thanks a lot for your work, both JWB and RB!
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    ridleyridley Posts: 163
    Jammalambo wrote:
    A little question, just because I'm picky about dates ;) .. about the 1993-07-16 Rotterdam show.. Why is labelled as 16-17 of july 1993? Aren't the songs just from the date of 16th of july? In the audience boot of the 16th show all the 13 songs are included.. but I have still to listen to it song by song to see if they are the same versions.. these 13 songs are taken from the "Against" boot, right? and is it really a SBD or just a good AUD? the complete AUD of the 16th sounds really good..

    anyway, thanks a lot for your work, both JWB and RB!

    At least Even Flow is from the 17th July show (not played on the 16th), possibly others too - report back once you've done your song by song comparisons :thumbsup:
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,144
    Seriously fucking great job. "Blood" from DC 95' is INTENSE.
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    JammalamboJammalambo Posts: 1,321
    ridley wrote:
    Jammalambo wrote:
    A little question, just because I'm picky about dates ;) .. about the 1993-07-16 Rotterdam show.. Why is labelled as 16-17 of july 1993? Aren't the songs just from the date of 16th of july? In the audience boot of the 16th show all the 13 songs are included.. but I have still to listen to it song by song to see if they are the same versions.. these 13 songs are taken from the "Against" boot, right? and is it really a SBD or just a good AUD? the complete AUD of the 16th sounds really good..

    anyway, thanks a lot for your work, both JWB and RB!

    At least Even Flow is from the 17th July show (not played on the 16th), possibly others too - report back once you've done your song by song comparisons :thumbsup:

    first off, thanks for your answer..
    but.. I don't know, actually I listened carefully to even flow from this source:
    Pearl Jam
    Sportspaleis Ahoy
    Rotterdam, Holland
    07.16.1993

    Source: um > d6-M > cass > DAT > CDR > dED > CDR > FLAC

    Disc 1:

    01. Release
    02. Why Go
    03. Deep
    04. Jeremy
    05. Rearviewmirror
    06. Elderly Woman
    07. Even Flow
    08. "This poor little person"
    09. Glorified G
    10. Daughter/(WMA)
    11. Garden
    12. Go
    13. Animal
    14. Alive
    15. Black
    16. "Feel like a lion"
    17. Porch/(Tearing)

    Disc 2:

    01. Intro
    02. "Reaching for flowers"
    03. Once
    04. Fuckin' Up
    05. Leash
    06. Encore Break 1
    07. Sonic Reducer
    08. Rockin' in the Free World
    09. "We gotta go to bed early"
    10. State of Love and Trust
    11. Indifference

    Notes:

    Setlist doesn't exactly match what's listed on 5h, but it's believed
    to be correct.

    Compiled on 4/4/2004 by DCL

    ..and the "Ahh" at the start and the solo seems quite the same to the version on the boot "against".. but I just listened to the even flow from 17th show from pjbootlegs.org (unfortunately a lossless copy of this show isn't in circulation, as far as I know), and, despite the sound quality is much worse here, it seem to be quite the same.. same "Ahh" at the start and the solo, too, seem strange to me than Mike played the same/similar solo for two nights in a row.. I really don't know what to think, it's 2:21 AM here in Italy and I need some sleep, so maybe my mind need some rest :lol:
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    Jammalambo wrote:
    A little question, just because I'm picky about dates ;) .. about the 1993-07-16 Rotterdam show.. Why is labelled as 16-17 of july 1993? Aren't the songs just from the date of 16th of july? In the audience boot of the 16th show all the 13 songs are included.. but I have still to listen to it song by song to see if they are the same versions.. these 13 songs are taken from the "Against" boot, right? and is it really a SBD or just a good AUD? the complete AUD of the 16th sounds really good..

    anyway, thanks a lot for your work, both JWB and RB!


    I think that the radio broadcast just had songs from both days. the "against" bootleg that has been circulating for years had a pretty bad edit job between tracks, if i remember correctly
    it's largely due to eddie that i liked to jump off of things as a child...
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    What you've done here is freakin' amazing.
    Thanks, it's much appreciated! :D
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    ty9969ty9969 Posts: 48
    Thank you for these.
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    boyo79boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    ridley wrote:
    demetrios wrote:
    boyo79 wrote:
    The Atlanta show - is there any difference between this one and the 3 disc Dissident release?

    Whipping, Betterman & Satan's Bed is on this one.
    Don't forget Sonic Reducer :wink:

    Cool! :D
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    demetrios wrote:
    Also, is there any way you can provide the source info? I maintain PJ's db.etree.org source list and it's sort of maddening without it.

    I too would love to see the sources / transfers info used in making the '12 Soundboard Remaster Series.

    Without a source info these would be just listed over @ db.etree.org as ..

    Source: unknown > flac

    right?
    From another board:
    1991-10-06 Hollywood, CA - Promo CD
    1992-02-12 Amsterdam, NE - Pre-FM > DAT
    1992-03-04 Utrecht, NE - Pre-FM > DAT
    1992-06-06 London, UK - Promo CD
    1992-09-26 Honolulu, HI - Minidisc w/ ANA patches
    1993-07-XX Rotterdam, NE - FM Broadcast > DAT
    1993-11-05 Indio, CA - Manifesting Morrison CD
    1994-04-03 Atlanta, GA - Aussie Promo w/ KROQ patches
    1995-01-14 Washington, DC - Basecamp w/ AUD patches
    1995-03-17 Melbourne, AU - Promo CD w/ FM patches
    1995-11-01 Salt Lake City, UT - SBD > DAT w/ FM patches
    1996-11-03 Berlin, DE - Promo CD
    1998-03-05 Melbourne, AU - Promo CD
    1998-07-22 Seattle, WA - SBD > DAT

    Remastering consisted of EQ and Limiting - and sometimes some Compression.
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    This is awesome! Much obliged my friend!
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    GhostBoyGhostBoy Posts: 112
    Dude, thanks for doing these. So far, I've listened to some of the Atlanta '94 show and the improvement is definitely noticeable. It probably goes without saying, but these are some of my favorite early boots. Downloading Salt Lake City and Berlin as I type...super psyched to hear Salt Lake City!

    Thanks again!
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    demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 87,912
    ridley wrote:
    demetrios wrote:
    boyo79 wrote:
    The Atlanta show - is there any difference between this one and the 3 disc Dissident release?

    Whipping, Betterman & Satan's Bed is on this one.
    Don't forget Sonic Reducer :wink:

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    demetriosdemetrios Canada Posts: 87,912
    demetrios wrote:
    Also, is there any way you can provide the source info? I maintain PJ's db.etree.org source list and it's sort of maddening without it.

    I too would love to see the sources / transfers info used in making the '12 Soundboard Remaster Series.

    Without a source info these would be just listed over @ db.etree.org as ..

    Source: unknown > flac

    right?
    From another board:
    1991-10-06 Hollywood, CA - Promo CD
    1992-02-12 Amsterdam, NE - Pre-FM > DAT
    1992-03-04 Utrecht, NE - Pre-FM > DAT
    1992-06-06 London, UK - Promo CD
    1992-09-26 Honolulu, HI - Minidisc w/ ANA patches
    1993-07-XX Rotterdam, NE - FM Broadcast > DAT
    1993-11-05 Indio, CA - Manifesting Morrison CD
    1994-04-03 Atlanta, GA - Aussie Promo w/ KROQ patches
    1995-01-14 Washington, DC - Basecamp w/ AUD patches
    1995-03-17 Melbourne, AU - Promo CD w/ FM patches
    1995-11-01 Salt Lake City, UT - SBD > DAT w/ FM patches
    1996-11-03 Berlin, DE - Promo CD
    1998-03-05 Melbourne, AU - Promo CD
    1998-07-22 Seattle, WA - SBD > DAT

    Remastering consisted of EQ and Limiting - and sometimes some Compression.

    Thank you! :)
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    majleap3majleap3 Posts: 208
    Thanks so much for doing this. This is truly great!
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    Ummm.....HOLY SHIT.

    I can't wait to listen to these!
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    BF89905BF89905 Posts: 1,344
    ridley wrote:
    egross wrote:
    Is there a torrent available for the MP3 versions?

    Yes. It's a different mp3 rip to those posted on mediafire, these are in 320Kbps while mine are VBR (and contain artwork in the ID-tag).


    A big thank you to all those involved in this project. Great efforts.
    - just to clarify.... Is it only the Flac files that have the full artwork included ?

    'Really looking forward to hearing these shows. Have a great weekend everyone.
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    boyo79boyo79 Warrington, UK Posts: 6,525
    Just had a quick taster of Berlin. Wow is all I can say. Looking forward to listening to the full show tomorrow and then the rest of the series.

    Great work! :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
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    This. Is. Awesome. RTFW from Honolulu cooks! You've made this particular fan VERY happy. Way to go!
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    BF89905BF89905 Posts: 1,344
    ridley wrote:
    demetrios wrote:
    boyo79 wrote:
    The Atlanta show - is there any difference between this one and the 3 disc Dissident release?

    Whipping, Betterman & Satan's Bed is on this one.
    Don't forget Sonic Reducer :wink:


    'Just out of curiosity.... the Atlanta concert MP3 I picked up within the past two years has those 4 aforemetioned tracks on it and I think the show sounds great throughout. I likely got it from one of the blogspots on the web.

    Is this new remastered series' Atlanta show the one to have now ?

    Thanks again to those that contributed to the project.
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    Thanks to all who put this together. AMAZING!!!!!
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    I'm downloading it from demonoid right now. Thank you very much for all your work on this one, it's really appreciated.
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    JammalamboJammalambo Posts: 1,321
    I just want to say that the Berlin 96 is FUCKING GOOD..
    I've listened to this show a lot of times, always wished for a better version.. now here it is, this probably is one of the most "on" show they ever played (not that they had a bad one) and it's like rediscovering it again.. great work, really..

    ps: am I the only fool that is burning all cd's and printing all covers (including discs on printable cd-r's)?
    damn it, that's a lot of black ink going on :evil: .. but they will look amazing on the shelf :)
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    Man I can't say enough about how great a job JWB has done here. Not surprising...his rips of the Christmas vinyls have always been top-notch. But this is an out-of-this-world job well done here. The enhancements of stuff like Indio and London are amazing. But other stuff, like Atlanta '94 and Melbourne '98, I really never thought they could be made to sound better but they truly do here. I'm currently in the process of burning all of these to update my collection cause these are now THE definitive versions of these 14 shows.

    And not to sound like a spoiled little kid who got 14 video games for Christmas but still wants some more....but any chance of Zurich '92 and Chicago '95 ever being remastered?
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    BF89905 wrote:

    'Just out of curiosity.... the Atlanta concert MP3 I picked up within the past two years has those 4 aforemetioned tracks on it and I think the show sounds great throughout. I likely got it from one of the blogspots on the web.

    Is this new remastered series' Atlanta show the one to have now ?

    Thanks again to those that contributed to the project.

    I've only listened to a couple of the tracks from Atlanta so far. Maybe the version I had before was a dud (like you, I found it on a blog), but to be honest, I'm amazed at the difference. I've always felt that the mix for that show was way too bass heavy. This version does a great job of balancing things out. It definitely creates a noticeable differences and gives the songs more character. Download it and see for yourself!
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    Thanks for the great job! I can't wait to listen to every single show.

    Wow, bring on some more!!
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    amazing....

    i have always LOVED the jam in the middle of RVM in Melbourne 95 and it sounds soo much better....chills coming down my spine...


    no words are enough to thank you for doing this..

    take care

    -Ryan
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    BF89905BF89905 Posts: 1,344
    BF89905 wrote:

    'Just out of curiosity.... the Atlanta concert MP3 I picked up within the past two years has those 4 aforemetioned tracks on it and I think the show sounds great throughout. I likely got it from one of the blogspots on the web.

    Is this new remastered series' Atlanta show the one to have now ?

    Thanks again to those that contributed to the project.

    I've only listened to a couple of the tracks from Atlanta so far. Maybe the version I had before was a dud (like you, I found it on a blog), but to be honest, I'm amazed at the difference. I've always felt that the mix for that show was way too bass heavy. This version does a great job of balancing things out. It definitely creates a noticeable differences and gives the songs more character. Download it and see for yourself!

    Thanks for the comments and suggestion. Enjoy.
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    kramer73kramer73 Posts: 2,604
    I downloaded the 7.22.98 show in mp3 format (thanks again!), and imported into itunes. It looks fine in itunes, but when I sync it with the ipod, the songs are out of order.

    The other shows in this series that I've downloaded look fine on the ipod.

    Any ideas?
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    LedbetterdaysLedbetterdays Round Rock, Texas Posts: 555
    These guys deserve the equivalent of a gold medal on this. I have dabbled in these things for years collecting shows, different sources, etc. and I have never heard these classic shows sound this good. If only more soundboard/quality source shows existed to get the same treatment. 10 Club put these guys to work on the vault ASAP!
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    milanmilan Posts: 447
    Thanks for the great work
    I probably have most of these somewhere but the effort made on these is greatly appreciated.
    I plan to make a box - "box set" to keep them together
    '06 Milan
    '07 Madrid
    '08 Virginia Beach / Washington DC
    '09 Shepherds Bush / Berlin / Manchester / London
    Perth / Sydney / Brisbane

    '10 London / Berlin / Lisbon
    '11 Rio de Janeiro / Buenos Aires / Lima
    '12 Manchester I / Manchester II / Berlin I / Berlin II
    '13 Baltimore / Charlottesville / Charlotte
    '14 Perth / San Siro / Berlin / "Live at Leeds" / MK
    '15 Rio de Janeiro / Bogota


    '18 London I / Berlin / London II


    '22 Berlin / London I / London Ii

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